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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:36 pm

Prufrock wrote:If it's a double leg break we aren't seeing him again this season.

If they all died we would react. BWFCi was talking shite. Equally we'd then have Ricketts and Connoly for two positions. We now have Petrov and Eagles for two positions. We're expecting to go an entire season with the pair of them never getting injured, never getting suspended, and actually being good enough! And if they don't we can always rely on Robbie Blake. That way relegation lies.
Add Gardner in aswell! And you don't always need 2 out and out wingers. How many did we have last season? Did the world end? My point about being reactionary was not that we don't react, but that saying we must buy a right winger cos Lee is out, may not ultimately be the best strategy. We are never going to have cover for every position we just have to deal with that!

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Post by Tals-biggest-fan » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:36 pm

I don't think Owen is going to make any rash calls on signing a player to replace Chungy if he's out for the season we need a new striker and if Cahill goes another defender we've got Petrov and Eagles as our main wingers right now and then if they don't play then IMO we could play the likes of Alonso, Mavies, Bibi, Mears in place for them until the first choice wingers and available again!
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Post by Prufrock » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:38 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
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TKIZ! wrote:Owen will have to go cap in hand to Uncle Eddie and ask him for a few more pennies as we'll need some new players quick.

McFadden anyone?
You can't go spending just cos a player is injured that is reactionary. We need strikers more than a right winger anyhow.....
Corse you fecking can! You're telling me if Cahill, Knight, and Wheater all died tomorrow we wouldn't try to buy a centre half before the start of the season? What a load of shite.

We have two wingers and two strikers now (if CYL is fooked). We need both. Desperately.
I think there's possibly shite, compounded by shite here. :-)

If they all died tomorrow, do you think that would make £12/13m or whatever they originally cost us available to sign replacements?

You'd rather suspect that OC might be told "there's a coupla mill for one, and you need some loanees" (which we'd probably be granted as a dispensation on the grounds we'd dramatically lost 3 CH's in a day)

I doubt that money mysteriously appears in ED's bank Account based on these events.
First of all we have no idea on insurance for players. We might get something. Beyond that though we all know we are fooked if we go down. The club has made a loss many times before whilst buying players, figuring it is less of a loss than going down. If ED is convinced without another winger, or striker, or whatever, we are going down, then he'll find the money from somewhere. Having just Petrov and Eagles for a whole season would be enough to convince me! All this of course dependent on how fooked Chungy is.
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Post by Tombwfc » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:40 pm

Yeah, if he's out for a prolonged period of time, I don't think it'd be 'reactionary' to start thinking about getting in a replacement. That'd seem more common sense than blind panic.

It was only a week ago BWFCI you were happy with us signing Mears because.... "What happens if Steinsson gets injured before Ricketts comes back?". Why do we need three right backs but we're ok with one unproven right winger, and a highly suspect left winger?

Our third best striker is Robbie Blake, and our second choice right winger is now..... errr, Steinsson? Mears? Nigel? (I'm not entirely chuffed that our first choice is Chris Eagles, but here we are). Both need addressing, even if it's just two loans and a permanent striker.

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:41 pm

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Prufrock wrote:If it's a double leg break we aren't seeing him again this season.

If they all died we would react. BWFCi was talking shite. Equally we'd then have Ricketts and Connoly for two positions. We now have Petrov and Eagles for two positions. We're expecting to go an entire season with the pair of them never getting injured, never getting suspended, and actually being good enough! And if they don't we can always rely on Robbie Blake. That way relegation lies.
Add Gardner in aswell! And you don't always need 2 out and out wingers. How many did we have last season? Did the world end? My point about being reactionary was not that we don't react, but that saying we must buy a right winger cos Lee is out, may not ultimately be the best strategy. We are never going to have cover for every position we just have to deal with that!

Gardner is never a winger. He only got away with it when he was younger coz he was fecking quick. Absolutely no end product. At the moment we have as many strikers who have proved they can be anything other than shit in the premiership as we do wingers. And of the wingers, one was years ago for us, and one was years ago for city.

Honestly, Eagles, and Petrov. For a whole season?! Christ alive.

As for we don't need two wingers. This is Owen 'Married to 4-4-2' Coyle. We do need two wingers. The only time we played someone who wasn't a winger out there, in Elmander, we were shit.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:43 pm

Prufrock wrote:
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TKIZ! wrote:Owen will have to go cap in hand to Uncle Eddie and ask him for a few more pennies as we'll need some new players quick.

McFadden anyone?
You can't go spending just cos a player is injured that is reactionary. We need strikers more than a right winger anyhow.....
Corse you fecking can! You're telling me if Cahill, Knight, and Wheater all died tomorrow we wouldn't try to buy a centre half before the start of the season? What a load of shite.

We have two wingers and two strikers now (if CYL is fooked). We need both. Desperately.
I think there's possibly shite, compounded by shite here. :-)

If they all died tomorrow, do you think that would make £12/13m or whatever they originally cost us available to sign replacements?

You'd rather suspect that OC might be told "there's a coupla mill for one, and you need some loanees" (which we'd probably be granted as a dispensation on the grounds we'd dramatically lost 3 CH's in a day)

I doubt that money mysteriously appears in ED's bank Account based on these events.
First of all we have no idea on insurance for players. We might get something. Beyond that though we all know we are fooked if we go down. The club has made a loss many times before whilst buying players, figuring it is less of a loss than going down. If ED is convinced without another winger, or striker, or whatever, we are going down, then he'll find the money from somewhere. Having just Petrov and Eagles for a whole season would be enough to convince me! All this of course dependent on how fooked Chungy is.
If you are saying that cos LCY is now out then we are going down then you are overreacting a bit. All summer long I've said we've been light and we have and still are. But equally our main and biggest problem is not out wide, but up front and that hasn't changed!

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:48 pm

Our biggest problem is now equally out wide as it is up front. We have no cover for either. I'm not saying LCY being out for a long time means we are going down. I'm saying it makes it a lot more of a risk, from 'not a fecking chance' to 'if we aren't very lucky, a serious chance'. Eagles. And Petrov. Chris 'never shown himself to be capable at the top level' Eagles, and Martin 'utter fcuking wank last year' Petrov. And no-body else. In that case it wouldn't surprise me, him not being mental, if ED decided we could strectch funds slightly to make another winger possible.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:56 pm

Prufrock wrote:Our biggest problem is now equally out wide as it is up front. We have no cover for either. I'm not saying LCY being out for a long time means we are going down. I'm saying it makes it a lot more of a risk, from 'not a fecking chance' to 'if we aren't very lucky, a serious chance'. Eagles. And Petrov. Chris 'never shown himself to be capable at the top level' Eagles, and Martin 'utter fcuking wank last year' Petrov. And no-body else. In that case it wouldn't surprise me, him not being mental, if ED decided we could strectch funds slightly to make another winger possible.
I know what you are saying but if you include Gardner and he's as much of a left sider as Taylor was we 3 wide players and are much stronger centrally so worst comes to worst we could use Mark Davies or when fit Holden out right side. Both have done it before. As it stands we don't have anything up front.

As it is if we really are after 2 strikers I'd settle for one and SWP on loan. That would do for now IMO.

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:05 pm

Gardner is not as much a lefter sider as Taylor was! Taylor was considered pretty much equal to Petrov. Remind me how many games Gardner started out there over Taylor or Petrov? That's before we take into account that Gardner went off injured today. Holden I'd forgotten about, and is more than capable of playing right wing, fairly sure that is where he plays for the States. Not his best position, and would be a loss to the centre, but could play there. As it is he isn't back yet from his own long term injury. SWP as you say would be the ideal solution. Not too expensive, proven, quick and could at a push play both sides. Him or another similar are minimum requirements IMO. More would be nice.

Also re: the do we have the pennies situation. We happen to have a very saleable asset. This possibly the cue for lowering the Cahill demands?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:09 pm

Prufrock wrote:Gardner is not as much a lefter sider as Taylor was! Taylor was considered pretty much equal to Petrov. Remind me how many games Gardner started out there over Taylor or Petrov? That's before we take into account that Gardner went off injured today. Holden I'd forgotten about, and is more than capable of playing right wing, fairly sure that is where he plays for the States. Not his best position, and would be a loss to the centre, but could play there. As it is he isn't back yet from his own long term injury. SWP as you say would be the ideal solution. Not too expensive, proven, quick and could at a push play both sides. Him or another similar are minimum requirements IMO. More would be nice.

Also re: the do we have the pennies situation. We happen to have a very saleable asset. This possibly the cue for lowering the Cahill demands?
Then you need a centre back plus the rest. You'd have to presume that as we've had no bid whatsoever for Cahill that it's more than price putting teams off. Boro have slapped a 10M price tag on Coyles chosen replacement too! I'd rather go into the season with Eagles and Petrov as our only wide players than having to play Wheater and Knight at centre back together!

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:20 pm

But then you have money for three instead of none for two. Plus we have to sell him this window really. The whole point of this buy young improve then sell model is to make a profit. Cannot have the most saleable of them all go for nowt. Take £10million. N'Gog, SWP on loan, Sturridge on loan, Puyol at centre half. Piece of piss.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:27 pm

Prufrock wrote:But then you have money for three instead of none for two. Plus we have to sell him this window really. The whole point of this buy young improve then sell model is to make a profit. Cannot have the most saleable of them all go for nowt. Take £10million. N'Gog, SWP on loan, Sturridge on loan, Puyol at centre half. Piece of piss.
Ha. There is still the 5M we bid for Jeffren that is still available according to Nixon but the problem is finding right players for value. I think we're looking at one buy maybe one maybe 2 loans. I imagine that all selling Cahill will do is allow for a replacement to be bought as it stands. Not sure we can just spend big on any player we look for value, which I presume means sell on potential. Cahill will hinge ultimately on whether he will sign a new deal or not. But for me we don't need to have a centre back headache as well! With all the money in the world it would still be hard to identify and get 4 good players between now and nd of August. See how long it takes even City to do it!

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Post by thebish » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:28 pm

Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:Owen will have to go cap in hand to Uncle Eddie and ask him for a few more pennies as we'll need some new players quick.

McFadden anyone?
You can't go spending just cos a player is injured that is reactionary. We need strikers more than a right winger anyhow.....
Corse you fecking can! You're telling me if Cahill, Knight, and Wheater all died tomorrow we wouldn't try to buy a centre half before the start of the season?
reductio ad absurdiam! :lol: :pissed:

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Post by thebish » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:30 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:Owen will have to go cap in hand to Uncle Eddie and ask him for a few more pennies as we'll need some new players quick.

McFadden anyone?
You can't go spending just cos a player is injured that is reactionary. We need strikers more than a right winger anyhow.....
Corse you fecking can! You're telling me if Cahill, Knight, and Wheater all died tomorrow we wouldn't try to buy a centre half before the start of the season? What a load of shite.

We have two wingers and two strikers now (if CYL is fooked). We need both. Desperately.
I think there's possibly shite, compounded by shite here. :-)

If they all died tomorrow, do you think that would make £12/13m or whatever they originally cost us available to sign replacements?

You'd rather suspect that OC might be told "there's a coupla mill for one, and you need some loanees" (which we'd probably be granted as a dispensation on the grounds we'd dramatically lost 3 CH's in a day)

I doubt that money mysteriously appears in ED's bank Account based on these events.
unless he'd shot them as an assassin and was paid off....

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:47 pm

Love how folk are talking about us going down before the first game's even arrived. I've said it before, I'll do it again; have all the bottom half teams suddenly become Barcelona? We don't even know how half of them will shape with new players. Our pre-season has been promising and whilst CYL is a cracking little player we surely aren't a one man band. What do we really expect to get from City, Liverpool, Unitd, Arsenal and Chelsea that one man can make a vast difference to? We have to beat QPR and Norwich out of the first seven games plus scramble what we can from the rest. Our fixtures are a bit "group of death", but after that we can surely go on. Everybody else has the play the big boys so lets not throw the towel in just yet, hey? We managed last season with not that much different a side and we're supposed tohave strengthened it.

Anyway, my neighbours have just come back from Spain and they met Lawro at the airport. He asked where they came from and said, "Oh,you'll be fine but Blackburn are going down". What more do you need? :wink:
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:56 pm

Everybody calm the f*ck down.

At this moment we'll start with Eagles at QPR. No, he's not as good as Lee, but few are. As it stands we could perhaps do with a young loanee, or an out of favourer on loan until christmas.

Priority is still a striker. This doesn't change that all that much.
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Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:26 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Everybody calm the f*ck down.

At this moment we'll start with Eagles at QPR. No, he's not as good as Lee, but few are. As it stands we could perhaps do with a young loanee, or an out of favourer on loan until christmas.

Priority is still a striker. This doesn't change that all that much.
Is correct.

And after we get a striker the priority will be a striker.

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Post by TKIZ! » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Everybody calm the f*ck down.

At this moment we'll start with Eagles at QPR. No, he's not as good as Lee, but few are. As it stands we could perhaps do with a young loanee, or an out of favourer on loan until christmas.

Priority is still a striker. This doesn't change that all that much.
Is correct.

And after we get a striker the priority will be a striker.

Is this leg broken or not? Anyone hear?
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