'Ull V Bolton

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Hull fan here, lads. Few thoughts on today:

1) I, like many outsiders, tipped you to win the league. You've got a great set of individual players, but it was quite apparent that they're not a TEAM. The first half of the game was pretty even, with both sides' goals coming as a result of pretty wild deflections. The second half, up to the 75th minute, was all City. In the last 15 minutes we barely touched the ball, yet for all of your possession in that time you created nothing. As soon as a Wanderers player had the ball within 25-yards of the City goal, he'd either lump it out of play or f**k-about with it until he got tackled. Why did Coyle not order the team to pile the pressure on up-front? Even from a City point of view, I was expecting us to crumble.

2)Also, your players are quite capable of playing the ball on the floor, and if you'd stuck Petrov in the middle (why was he not playing, by the way?) and done so, you'd probably have nullified any City threat and left with at least a point. However, your players, particularly the back-four, repeatedly resorted to needless long-balls when under absolutely no pressure. What happened to the 'attacking, passing football' that Coyle employed in his first few months as boss?

3) Sam Ricketts didn't have a bad game at left-back, but why is a right-footed player being played in that position anyway?

4) Sides in the situation Bolton were today need a strong, experienced player to take the bull by the horns and rally everyone. Kevin Davies, Zat Knight, and Keith Andrews are all players I'd expect to fill that role, yet they all looked as disinterested as the rest.

5) Over the past few years, we've had a remarkable record of getting opposition managers sacked. Fingers crossed, eh...

Only seen us once yet you've picked up on things some people havent recognised inspite of staring at them for 18 months.Ever considered a career in management.

[plymouth wanderer]

Hull fan here, lads. Few thoughts on today:

1) I, like many outsiders, tipped you to win the league. You've got a great set of individual players, but it was quite apparent that they're not a TEAM. The first half of the game was pretty even, with both sides' goals coming as a result of pretty wild deflections. The second half, up to the 75th minute, was all City. In the last 15 minutes we barely touched the ball, yet for all of your possession in that time you created nothing. As soon as a Wanderers player had the ball within 25-yards of the City goal, he'd either lump it out of play or f**k-about with it until he got tackled. Why did Coyle not order the team to pile the pressure on up-front? Even from a City point of view, I was expecting us to crumble.

2)Also, your players are quite capable of playing the ball on the floor, and if you'd stuck Petrov in the middle (why was he not playing, by the way?) and done so, you'd probably have nullified any City threat and left with at least a point. However, your players, particularly the back-four, repeatedly resorted to needless long-balls when under absolutely no pressure. What happened to the 'attacking, passing football' that Coyle employed in his first few months as boss?

3) Sam Ricketts didn't have a bad game at left-back, but why is a right-footed player being played in that position anyway?

4) Sides in the situation Bolton were today need a strong, experienced player to take the bull by the horns and rally everyone. Kevin Davies, Zat Knight, and Keith Andrews are all players I'd expect to fill that role, yet they all looked as disinterested as the rest.

5) Over the past few years, we've had a remarkable record of getting opposition managers sacked. Fingers crossed, eh...

Only seen us once yet you've picked up on things some people havent recognised inspite of staring at them for 18 months.Ever considered a career in management.

i'll add him to the poll

[Prufrock]

Positives:

- Spearing looked like what we need. Got about, made tackles, always wanted it, rarely gave it away, spread it wide quickly. Not going to unlock any defences, or score many goals, but he looked tidy.

-Leaving Hull. Wow that place is a shithole. Really, really grim. Felt like I was in Life on Mars.

That's the positives. All of them.

We were so shit it was unbelievable. He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them. Ream was another level of shite today. First goal, we're under pressure, the ball bounces to him, he has a bit of time, swings his right foot at it, knocks it a full 15 yards to one to their midfielder, goes wide, ball into the box, deflection, goal. Second goal, Boggers came flapping and got nowhere near it. Appealed for a foul, not a fecking chance. I don't know how it is possible for a six foot odd keeper who can use his bastard hands to not get there in front of a defender. Had to be Faye too. He scored that goal for Bolton more than once. Third goal there was a ball down the channel, Ream got completely wrong side, then tried to go shoulder to shoulder with their striker (not sure which one, but neither were exactly big lads) fell over in a heap. 3-1. Game over. He even managed to lose a header to Jay Simpson in the first half. Nothing cross floated to the back stick and lost the header to a sub 6 foot striker who learnt his trade in an academy where you get fined for crossing.

Boggers- Shit. Second his fault, got away with a possible fourth (thought it did look like a foul to me). Got an absolute bollocking off Ricketts in the first half for not coming getting a through ball that should have been his all day long.

Mears- Shit. So, so bad positionally it is unreal. Chungy was basically playing right back first half. I'm all for staying narrow and compact but he was taking the piss. Looked up a few times to find him closing down in central midfield when we already had three in there and his man was in acres on the left. Not only that, but time and time again the ball was spread wide to him in acres of space and he just stopped it and stood still. The one time he tried to do something positive he won a corner. He hid.

Ream- Shit. So, so wrong it was unreal. Time and time again they hit straight balls over the top and kept getting in behind. Shit for the first goal and embarrassing for the third. He hid.

Knight- Continues to surprise. Didn't seem to put a foot wrong, although he looked to be picking up Faye first half, and no-one got near him for his goal, but couldn't see who lost him as it was at the other end. Even came getting it off Boggers and playing it out. Don't think he blasted it pointlessly to their keeper once.

Ricketts- Did OK. Always wants to come inside onto his right though, and given Eagles is the same in front of him with have absolutely no width down that side. Bollocked Boggers first half, rightly so, looked gutted at the end. Not that it helps but he at least didn't hide.

Lee- Fecking anonymous. So much talent, going to have to do much better than that. The only one who ever offers any movement, creating loads of space for Mears to not run into. Hid.

Eagles- A weird one. He had an absolute mare, but he was the only one going forward who didn't hide. Kept wanting it, kept f*cking it up. Just had one of those days. Lucky with the free-kick. Was crying out for Petrov with at least half an hour to go.

Spearing- Tidy. Isn't going to win us games, but he was quietly promising. Also looks like he has a red card in him. Does not pull out of tackles!

Andrews- Forgot he was playing. Did nowt. Was hoping Spearing's presence would free him up to get forward and support. Did it once in the first half and nearly scored. Needs to do more.

Mark Davies. Anonymous first half. Played so, so deep. Needs to be more disciplined, let Spearing and Andrews do that, and try to find space further forward. That said it wouldn't surprise me if the three were told 'play in midfield' and left it at that.

Kev- Didn't get much out of Faye. If he isn't winning his headers, he doesn't offer very much. Static up top, no width (Eagles and Lee both drifting inside, neither full back getting forward) and no movement is a very, very bad combination.

Coyle out.

[thebish]

surely we'd be better with ricketts at RB and Alonso at LB...

[BWFC_Insane]

Positives:

- Spearing looked like what we need. Got about, made tackles, always wanted it, rarely gave it away, spread it wide quickly. Not going to unlock any defences, or score many goals, but he looked tidy.

-Leaving Hull. Wow that place is a shithole. Really, really grim. Felt like I was in Life on Mars.

That's the positives. All of them.

We were so shit it was unbelievable. He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them. Ream was another level of shite today. First goal, we're under pressure, the ball bounces to him, he has a bit of time, swings his right foot at it, knocks it a full 15 yards to one to their midfielder, goes wide, ball into the box, deflection, goal. Second goal, Boggers came flapping and got nowhere near it. Appealed for a foul, not a fecking chance. I don't know how it is possible for a six foot odd keeper who can use his bastard hands to not get there in front of a defender. Had to be Faye too. He scored that goal for Bolton more than once. Third goal there was a ball down the channel, Ream got completely wrong side, then tried to go shoulder to shoulder with their striker (not sure which one, but neither were exactly big lads) fell over in a heap. 3-1. Game over. He even managed to lose a header to Jay Simpson in the first half. Nothing cross floated to the back stick and lost the header to a sub 6 foot striker who learnt his trade in an academy where you get fined for crossing.

Boggers- Shit. Second his fault, got away with a possible fourth (thought it did look like a foul to me). Got an absolute bollocking off Ricketts in the first half for not coming getting a through ball that should have been his all day long.

Mears- Shit. So, so bad positionally it is unreal. Chungy was basically playing right back first half. I'm all for staying narrow and compact but he was taking the piss. Looked up a few times to find him closing down in central midfield when we already had three in there and his man was in acres on the left. Not only that, but time and time again the ball was spread wide to him in acres of space and he just stopped it and stood still. The one time he tried to do something positive he won a corner. He hid.

Ream- Shit. So, so wrong it was unreal. Time and time again they hit straight balls over the top and kept getting in behind. Shit for the first goal and embarrassing for the third. He hid.

Knight- Continues to surprise. Didn't seem to put a foot wrong, although he looked to be picking up Faye first half, and no-one got near him for his goal, but couldn't see who lost him as it was at the other end. Even came getting it off Boggers and playing it out. Don't think he blasted it pointlessly to their keeper once.

Ricketts- Did OK. Always wants to come inside onto his right though, and given Eagles is the same in front of him with have absolutely no width down that side. Bollocked Boggers first half, rightly so, looked gutted at the end. Not that it helps but he at least didn't hide.

Lee- Fecking anonymous. So much talent, going to have to do much better than that. The only one who ever offers any movement, creating loads of space for Mears to not run into. Hid.

Eagles- A weird one. He had an absolute mare, but he was the only one going forward who didn't hide. Kept wanting it, kept f*cking it up. Just had one of those days. Lucky with the free-kick. Was crying out for Petrov with at least half an hour to go.

Spearing- Tidy. Isn't going to win us games, but he was quietly promising. Also looks like he has a red card in him. Does not pull out of tackles!

Andrews- Forgot he was playing. Did nowt. Was hoping Spearing's presence would free him up to get forward and support. Did it once in the first half and nearly scored. Needs to do more.

Mark Davies. Anonymous first half. Played so, so deep. Needs to be more disciplined, let Spearing and Andrews do that, and try to find space further forward. That said it wouldn't surprise me if the three were told 'play in midfield' and left it at that.

Kev- Didn't get much out of Faye. If he isn't winning his headers, he doesn't offer very much. Static up top, no width (Eagles and Lee both drifting inside, neither full back getting forward) and no movement is a very, very bad combination.

Coyle out.

Pretty much bobitty feck on that.

Bogdan is absolutely hopeless with his distribution. And even worse on crosses! Might be time for Lonergan to get a run as Bogdan clearly has no confidence!

[CAPSLOCK]

COYLE OUT

[IggyTheDawgster]

Redknapp in?

[CrazyHorse]

Redknapp in?

lol

[TANGODANCER]

surely we'd be better with ricketts at RB and Alonso at LB...

Been asking for a while why Alonso doesn't get a decent shot. Pre-season he seemed on fire, even scored. Rickets is basically right footed and not a bad player, Knight seems to be sound enough and Mears doing little. With a defensive mid in place we should have been defensively sound yet were undone time after time, even with crosses. Full back on both sides seem our weakest areas.

[BWFC_Insane]

It would be nice to put ricketts at right back or centre half. However that would mean introducing another soft as shite, can't defend for toffee defender at left back. And frankly given we seem to have enough trouble as it is, I'm not convinced that is the way forwards!

[TANGODANCER]

Any ideas on Wheater's progress? Right now, with Ream and Mills the alternatives, we could well do with him back. Decent defender, not afraid to open his mouth and a real threat on set pieces. Where's he at?

[plymouth wanderer]

Back in the new year I think

Shocking to think that those 2 players you mentioned(I know he signed wheats) are coyles signings

[seanworth]

Redknapp in?

lol

I'm sure he's supported us his entire life. Read that somewhere I think.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Been asking for a while why Alonso doesn't get a decent shot. Pre-season he seemed on fire, even scored.

Mixed game at Crawley. Promising with the ball but always looks capable of giving a goal away. We could do without that burden seeing as we're already shipping more than two per game. Might be worth a try though, and Coyle's reaching the Hail Mary stage.

[Athers]

A dreadful away day, special mention for Ream who was an embarassment at the back and I didn't even see the second Hull goal as I was finishing my pint. Good job since I hear it was from my favourite scenario, a corner.

Prufrock's got most of it. I don't like Spearing but he did OK, the problem was that Andrews wanderered around directionless, like Spearing's prescence robbed him of a role to fulfil.

Last half hour was the fans chanting 'Coyle Out'.... just awful all round really, some 'fans' enjoyed booing every attack where we didn't score in the second half too, have a day off you c*nts.

[Dr.Karl]

Been asking for a while why Alonso doesn't get a decent shot. Pre-season he seemed on fire, even scored.

Mixed game at Crawley. Promising with the ball but always looks capable of giving a goal away. We could do without that burden seeing as we're already shipping more than two per game. Might be worth a try though, and Coyle's reaching the Hail Mary stage.

There was a spell when Alonso and Petrov linked up well on the left. Mears hasn't been very good in the two games I've seen so shifting Ricketts to RB and Alonso at LB seems not unreasonable. How much worse can it get? I don't understand why Petrov isn't in the starting 11 either. He was tearing up Premiership defences at the back end of last season. A triumvirate of Petrov/Eagles/Lee(when he gets fully fit) behind a nimble striker would do very nicely in this division.

The only team we've beaten put 5 past Watford today so its an almighty wide open league. With the players we've got at our disposal we should be challenging for the top spots. Even Mick McCarthey could get them playing. At least they'd want to work for him. And I think thats where the problem lies, players don't want to play for our manager. He's a clueless pleb. They know it. We know it. For the good of the team and club its best he goes albeit 10 months too late.

[Annoyed Grunt]

Redknapp in?

We don't have enough brown envelopes.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

[quote="Athers"]A dreadful away day, special mention for Ream who was an embarassment at the back and I didn't even see the second Hull goal as I was finishing my pint. Good job since I hear it was from my favourite scenario, a corner.

Prufrock's got most of it. I don't like Spearing but he did OK, the problem was that Andrews wanderered around directionless, like Spearing's prescence robbed him of a role to fulfil.

Last half hour was the fans chanting 'Coyle Out'.... just awful all round really, some 'fans' enjoyed booing every attack where we didn't score in the second half too, have a day off you c*nts.[/quote]

With you there.I know it's people's choice and they have every right but I could never do it or fully understand it. You should check out the second goal. Faye ties the laces of two of our defenders togethers who fall over when they try to jump and seem to rugby tackle Bolisha as he attempts to make a catch. I dont think Faye even bothered to jump

In fairness to Ream on the first he should have had a call from one of the lads behind him who could easily have cleared and in all honesty on the third who could have expected that freak gust of wind at the crucial point when he needed to make a challenge.

Dont like the body language at all.The reaction to the equaliser looked almost resigned and Ream isnt the only one who who rather throw himself to the floor and cry foul when he should be on his feet and competing

[Ianmooreslovechild]

surely we'd be better with ricketts at RB and Alonso at LB...

Been asking for a while why Alonso doesn't get a decent shot. Pre-season he seemed on fire, even scored. Rickets is basically right footed and not a bad player, Knight seems to be sound enough and Mears doing little. With a defensive mid in place we should have been defensively sound yet were undone time after time, even with crosses. Full back on both sides seem our weakest areas.

I think it's because whenever anyone runs at him they go past him and when they cut inside he cant get near them quick enough to stop them getting a shot off. He looks decent going forward but clueless when isolated as a left back. We really should have signed one last week. Ream is now a Cidlike shell and Mills who I'm sure will be in next game looks very slow and clumsy.The fact is Coyle has no idea what a good defender does. He's signed 4 bad defenders and the one half decent one he stumbled across is out till next year. Even Bogdan's confidence looks shot now and Ricketts likewise.

It's kind of bizarre to see Knight thriving but good on him he's head and shoulders above anyone else at present. We're so bad now he's well on his way to becoming a cult hero!

[klasnicks]

What's worrying is the frequency we are conceding such soft goals. All of Hulls goals were down to poor defensive play rather than them playing us off the park. Dreadful.