Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

[The_Gun]

Toughsheet have bought £250k...On top of their stadium sponsorship...

I am trying to ignore the bond, but I am delighted a local business is backing the club. Mr Tough Shit isn't going to care if his 250k never comes home. He's getting good mileage out of his relationship with the club.

I would love to see more local business step up. I'm amazed we've not been able to get anything going with AO yet.

Our next shirt sponsor is apparently a 'major national retailer', so AO is a good shout.

[boltonboris]

A lad who comes to the pub before the games with us is a supply chain manager at AO.com and he seems fairly certain it's them.. Few whispers around the place and a few smirks when he asked the top brass during a walkaround a couple of weeks ago

[boltonboris]

AO used to advertise in the ground too. They had signage above the exits inside the stadium bowl and underneath the hospitality boxes.

[jmjhb]

Peterborough have put Jonson Clarke-Harris and Ollie Norburn on the transfer list.

[BWFC_Insane]

Peterborough have transfer listed Jonson Clarke Harris.

Now he's 28. BUT I think he still has value. And for me is the exact sort of striker that you need in an ideal world - proven.

69 goals in 122 starts for Peterborough - including 12 championship goals last season in a relegated side.
24 goals in 38 for Bristol Rovers before that.

In between his 12 goal championship season are two league one campaigns with 33 and 29 goals respectively.

Now I don't know cost. He's probably out of budget.

But he's the sort that I think gives you a real chance at promotion. And still retains value.

[The_Gun]

Presumably they'd be looking for at least £2m for him. It's not hard to imagine a Championship team paying that, either.

[Worthy4England]

Peterborough have transfer listed Jonson Clarke Harris.

Now he's 28. BUT I think he still has value. And for me is the exact sort of striker that you need in an ideal world - proven.

69 goals in 122 starts for Peterborough - including 12 championship goals last season in a relegated side.
24 goals in 38 for Bristol Rovers before that.

In between his 12 goal championship season are two league one campaigns with 33 and 29 goals respectively.

Now I don't know cost. He's probably out of budget.

But he's the sort that I think gives you a real chance at promotion. And still retains value.

I hear you, but I'm much less sure that we'd (By "we" I mean the Club ) effectively want to make Adeboyejo 4th pick? Wouldn't be unhappy having him in the ranks, just can't see it happening with big holes elsewhere....

[GhostoftheBok]

Posh paid a million quid to get JCH from Bristol and they owe 10% of any profit from a sale as part of that deal.

So by Posh's usual accounting standards they'd want at least £1.6m. No idea if they'd ask for more or less, but typically with a successful player they want a minimum +50% return.

[GhostoftheBok]

I hear you, but I'm much less sure that we'd (By "we" I mean the Club ) effectively want to make Adeboyejo 4th pick? Wouldn't be unhappy having him in the ranks, just can't see it happening with big holes elsewhere....

Adeboyejo is exactly the sort of player Posh would have signed to replace JCH if they'd sold him in January.

[boltonboris]

Well maybe, we can offer a part-ex! I'd certainly be up for that

[BWFC_Insane]

Peterborough have transfer listed Jonson Clarke Harris.

Now he's 28. BUT I think he still has value. And for me is the exact sort of striker that you need in an ideal world - proven.

69 goals in 122 starts for Peterborough - including 12 championship goals last season in a relegated side.
24 goals in 38 for Bristol Rovers before that.

In between his 12 goal championship season are two league one campaigns with 33 and 29 goals respectively.

Now I don't know cost. He's probably out of budget.

But he's the sort that I think gives you a real chance at promotion. And still retains value.

I hear you, but I'm much less sure that we'd (By "we" I mean the Club ) effectively want to make Adeboyejo 4th pick? Wouldn't be unhappy having him in the ranks, just can't see it happening with big holes elsewhere....

Get that. It’s probably out of range, given need for goalkeepers and wing backs. Sure.

It’s the sort of striker signing where for me you get away with a little less in behind because you have two proven strikers up top and one that is somewhat proven the level above too.

You could go up purely through goals. It’s a risk as you might not create enough or whatever.

Nothing is a guarantee. I don’t think it will happen but I think it would be more justified than many deals this summer in terms of what it would add and the value proposition.

If they want a silly fee then forget it.

[GhostoftheBok]

Well maybe, we can offer a part-ex! I'd certainly be up for that

Most people would take JCH over Adeboyejo, I agree. If you could swap, you would.

What's interesting is there's not a huge gulf between them in terms of end product this season, despite how it looks.

JCH has scored nearly double Ade's league goals, but he's also had a lot more minutes on the pitch. Minute to minute JCH has only been 20% more productive in the final third and that's in a team set up to feed him chances. I'd be pretty hard to shift from the position that Ade would have scored loads in that Posh side.

I'd take JCH here if offered, but he's not guaranteed to show up and stick 30 in. We need to fix the creativity around whatever strikers we have in the building and if we do that we'll probably find Ade puts up very impressive numbers too.

If the choice is "Buy JCH or fix the rest of the side" (which in terms of cost it could actually be) I'd fix the rest of the side. I suppose it depends how big this pot is we have to piss in.

[Worthy4England]

Well maybe, we can offer a part-ex! I'd certainly be up for that

One careful owner, low mileage, barely used?

[GhostoftheBok]

Get that. It’s probably out of range, given need for goalkeepers and wing backs. Sure.

It’s the sort of striker signing where for me you get away with a little less in behind because you have two proven strikers up top and one that is somewhat proven the level above too.

You could go up purely through goals. It’s a risk as you might not create enough or whatever.

Nothing is a guarantee. I don’t think it will happen but I think it would be more justified than many deals this summer in terms of what it would add and the value proposition.

If they want a silly fee then forget it.

It also depends where Evatt sees the "real" problem being, in terms of our shoddy goal return.

He said after the last game of the season that we don't score enough, but that it's nothing to do with the strikers. He could be talking to keep confidence up, or he could mean it.

Where we put our cash will tell us what he really thinks. You could do worse than put big money into JCH, but as I said in January when someone asked I'm not sure our budget would let us both buy JCH and get the very best out of him.

[jmjhb]

Norburn would be a good addition to our midfield.

[BWFC_Insane]

Get that. It’s probably out of range, given need for goalkeepers and wing backs. Sure.

It’s the sort of striker signing where for me you get away with a little less in behind because you have two proven strikers up top and one that is somewhat proven the level above too.

You could go up purely through goals. It’s a risk as you might not create enough or whatever.

Nothing is a guarantee. I don’t think it will happen but I think it would be more justified than many deals this summer in terms of what it would add and the value proposition.

If they want a silly fee then forget it.

It also depends where Evatt sees the "real" problem being, in terms of our shoddy goal return.

He said after the last game of the season that we don't score enough, but that it's nothing to do with the strikers. He could be talking to keep confidence up, or he could mean it.

Where we put our cash will tell us what he really thinks. You could do worse than put big money into JCH, but as I said in January when someone asked I'm not sure our budget would let us both buy JCH and get the very best out of him.

He said ‘it’s not all down to the strikers’.

I agree that a big bulk is not creating.

But often adding a genuinely quality striker with the right movement and quality and strength changes stuff.

I’ve seen it before. It’s not like pre Anelka we were necessarily missing loads. But adding him changed us massively.

At lower levels it happens too.

All round he is for me far better than Victor and adds different types of goals too. Outside box, inside box and headers.

[BWFC_Insane]

Norburn would be a good addition to our midfield.

Agree. But he’s 30.

[Worthy4England]

Stats from L1 League games - Vik v Jonson....

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[GhostoftheBok]

I'm starting to think a lot of people on here would rather watch Posh

Norburn before his injury would have been a good fit. Since his injury he doesn't seem to be able to shift his weight properly on that leg and he's been converted into more of a destroyer.

When he was playing for Sam Ricketts (before the latter left the game to join the building trade) he was a ball carrying, goal scoring, menace of a player. That Ollie Noburn I'd have welcomed.

I'm not sure I'd put money into a 30+ midfielder whose body seems to be breaking down on him, not when that player has to be be able to run hard for 90 minutes to be effective.

If he signed I'd assume we'd done our homework, though. Injury free he's a Championship player.

[GhostoftheBok]

He said ‘it’s not all down to the strikers’.

I agree that a big bulk is not creating.

But often adding a genuinely quality striker with the right movement and quality and strength changes stuff.

I’ve seen it before. It’s not like pre Anelka we were necessarily missing loads. But adding him changed us massively.

At lower levels it happens too.

All round he is for me far better than Victor and adds different types of goals too. Outside box, inside box and headers.

Like I said, if you could do a straight swap you would.

*edit* Also, the fact JCH is a lefty would help us a lot in certain areas.