Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

[TonyDomingos]

New JAM today
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/wanderers-a ... team-staff

[BWFC_Insane]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

[sonicthewhite]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

Maybe Atherton to focus on the technical stuff and Crainey to growl on the touchline threatening to murder any of our players who don't get stuck in

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Yeah, an intriguing one this. And not necessarily one to unite the fanbase, either.

Evatt sceptics could point out it's yet another "jobs for the boys" hiring of an old team-mate - see also Gilks, Hird, Jerome, plus the elevation of Craddock from B-team to first team coach. (For balance, Craddock was an outside hire for the Bs, and Pete Atherton had never worked with Evatt before joining him as sidekick at Barrow.)

The more optimistic reading is that this recognises we needed another voice; that the voice should be capable of a growl; and that it should come from someone with a bit of experience.

As ever, the truth will probably lie somewhere in the middle, but I hope it's a positive story on balance.

[BWFC_Insane]

Yeah, an intriguing one this. And not necessarily one to unite the fanbase, either.

Evatt sceptics could point out it's yet another "jobs for the boys" hiring of an old team-mate - see also Gilks, Hird, Jerome, plus the elevation of Craddock from B-team to first team coach. (For balance, Craddock was an outside hire for the Bs, and Pete Atherton had never worked with Evatt before joining him as sidekick at Barrow.)

The more optimistic reading is that this recognises we needed another voice; that the voice should be capable of a growl; and that it should come from someone with a bit of experience.

As ever, the truth will probably lie somewhere in the middle, but I hope it's a positive story on balance.

I would say that obviously I’m not an Evatt fan. But I think they did need a new voice in there. And that said voice hopefully offers something new. But I don’t think it’s realistic to get someone Evatt doesn’t want or know necessarily. It’s not like their coaching experience is intertwined so I’d say I’m not too bothered they played together.

Whether it helps or not is what matters and certainly I feel like a fresh voice was needed.

[Worthy4England]

Not sure about the job title...was hoping for something more like Hairdrier Specialist or maybe Bullshit Detector...

[Prufrock]

He's been on an upward trajectory elsewhere, so there's an angle that this is using personal connections to "get". Will all come out in the wash, but it's a minor plus for me.

[Bertie Wooster]

Yeah, an intriguing one this. And not necessarily one to unite the fanbase, either.

Evatt sceptics could point out it's yet another "jobs for the boys" hiring of an old team-mate - see also Gilks, Hird, Jerome, plus the elevation of Craddock from B-team to first team coach. (For balance, Craddock was an outside hire for the Bs, and Pete Atherton had never worked with Evatt before joining him as sidekick at Barrow.)

The more optimistic reading is that this recognises we needed another voice; that the voice should be capable of a growl; and that it should come from someone with a bit of experience.

As ever, the truth will probably lie somewhere in the middle, but I hope it's a positive story on balance.

It is an interesting one and you are spot one DSB it will lie somewhere in the middle - my initial thought is that its a very good move as we do and have certainly needed another coach, especially if he's a bit different to what the players are used to - even better if he is a no nonsense type, the potential downside as you say is another 'jobs for the boys' and possibly another who may just nod, agree and not challenge Evatt.

However, I think that he will challenge Evatt and if he is a tough, non nonsense type he is exactly what is needed, decent appointment for me.

[Bertie Wooster]

Forgot to add the downside to me is having two assistant managers, which is quite strange and unusual.

[officer_dibble]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

Agreed with this. Wonder if he had something to do with their aggregate 5-0 on us and we recognised it? Hope it’s a positive move. Two assistant managers as well - that’s one I’ve not seen before.

[Mar]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

Agreed with this. Wonder if he had something to do with their aggregate 5-0 on us and we recognised it? Hope it’s a positive move. Two assistant managers as well - that’s one I’ve not seen before.

I quite like the idea of several assistants. Getting toward the American style specialist coaches route.

We should be able to have more player coverage in terms of addressing player issues.

Wonder if hes taken up the role that was seemingly touted as Jerome's coaching role?

[Worthy4England]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

Agreed with this. Wonder if he had something to do with their aggregate 5-0 on us and we recognised it? Hope it’s a positive move. Two assistant managers as well - that’s one I’ve not seen before.

I quite like the idea of several assistants. Getting toward the American style specialist coaches route.

We should be able to have more player coverage in terms of addressing player issues.

Wonder if hes taken up the role that was seemingly touted as Jerome's coaching role?

That's sorta interesting, in the sense that I think we need less "patterns" not more. I nearly posted on the other thread that is was getting like American Football, which must be one of the biggest travesties of "sport" I've ever watched.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Zac Ashworth leaves the building. Curiously late announcement, this....

[BWFC_Insane]

That’s genuinely interesting. I don’t know a lot about Crainey other than he kept Fleetwood up that season (just) but he’s always seemed like a bit of a tough no nonsense sort. Which maybe we’ve identified is needed?

No idea on his coaching credentials or how the new setup will work but it’s definitely the most interesting thing we’ve done for a long old while.

Agreed with this. Wonder if he had something to do with their aggregate 5-0 on us and we recognised it? Hope it’s a positive move. Two assistant managers as well - that’s one I’ve not seen before.

I quite like the idea of several assistants. Getting toward the American style specialist coaches route.

We should be able to have more player coverage in terms of addressing player issues.

Wonder if hes taken up the role that was seemingly touted as Jerome's coaching role?

I don’t think that’s what it’s about. I suspect it’s getting a different voice, someone maybe from the outside who can come in and tell the players some hard truths.

I think that fresh sort of voice is needed. I’m sure he adds coaching experience but I think one of our problems is it’s all been too nice and comfortable. I’m hoping Crainey can change that culture and make it a much tougher environment.

[DJBlu]

This man will tell Ian Evatt he's being a tit when he needs it.

We've all got them friends that let us know we're idiots when we can be.

I do hope he's the missing piece.

[Worthy4England]

This man will tell Ian Evatt he's being a tit when he needs it.

We've all got them friends that let us know we're idiots when we can be.

I do hope he's the missing piece.

I have a lot of them. I think it's them.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

At LWB, without Ogbeta and Ashworth – neither of whom seemed 100% The Answer - we have just Williams (good but erratic and made of paper) and Iredale. Anyone think that's enough? How much of a priority is getting another?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

On the above, how would folks feel about Nicky Cadden? Not that I've heard anything; just that he's available, having beeen released by Barnsley; he's a creator but also a hard worker; he'll presumably get a good reference from his old FGR boss Rob Edwards, Evo's best mate; and at 27, he's a nice balance of experience without decrepitude.

The timing of Ashworth's announcement is odd, as if he's only just discovered we're not fulfilling the deal discussed last summer.

[sonicthewhite]

On the above, how would folks feel about Nicky Cadden? Not that I've heard anything; just that he's available, having beeen released by Barnsley; he's a creator but also a hard worker; he'll presumably get a good reference from his old FGR boss Rob Edwards, Evo's best mate; and at 27, he's a nice balance of experience without decrepitude.

The timing of Ashworth's announcement is odd, as if he's only just discovered we're not fulfilling the deal discussed last summer.

Could the Ashworth thing be a combination of us getting cold feet and/or we have someone better on the radar?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

The timing of Ashworth's announcement is odd, as if he's only just discovered we're not fulfilling the deal discussed last summer.

Could the Ashworth thing be a combination of us getting cold feet and/or we have someone better on the radar?

Yes, I hope it is. Particularly the latter. I didn't mind Ashworth, looked technically sound and seemed of good character, but I don't think his permanent signing would have revived the HMS PTL memes.

We need different types of signings for different positions – on the pitch and in the squad. Southwood should be a lot better Baxter backup than Coleman; Forino sounds fine as a Santos backup or perhaps a more physical alternative when required. But for wingback, on both flanks, I would like us to sign a first-teamer, a gamechanger. I don't want a backup to Cogz, who's a good lad but has only really excelled in home games against poorer teams. Randell is great on his day - man we missed him at Wembley - but he's only ever a sprint or a block tackle from six weeks out; if we could sign a title-winner of a left-sider, Randell would be a superb sub (on either side) and backup option.