The ianevattable sacking

[Harry Genshaw]

Gary O Neill is available. Yes please. Long term one though. Not a quick fix.

Blimey. You've been fairly consistent in wanting an experienced manager in. O'Neill is hardly that is he?

I said it depends. If it’s go up this season at all costs with what we’ve got we need experience - someone who knows how to get out of the league from a crisis.

But if it’s a longer term rebuild then I think it’s different. Which is why I said O’Neill would be a longer term sort of option. Would need a chance to build a side.

Fair enough.

Sadly, I don't think Evatt's going anywhere. The board surely won't give him any more money in January though. Surely?

[jimbo]

He's not going anywhere is he?

I think I've given him as much hope as I can however them players yesterday were shitting themselves at kick off. His surprise that they're doing it over and over is the issue as nothing has changed. We'll probably do enough to get into the play offs but they'll for some reason get stage fright.

Got to wonder what is being said?

They clearly weren't sent into the Wigan game with the "feck the result, get into em, show them that this is Bolton Wanderers"

There's a video of the minutes before kickoff and Johnston looks like he's been told lose this and the family dies.

I think there’s something in this. The way we play needs everyone to be confident - both showing for the ball, and bold enough to play certain passes. When confidence drops a fraction, or they’re nervous, all our usual passing options go. Then we’re stuck with the casual knocking it around the defenders which becomes increasingly panicked as they press more.

All the talk of a ‘plan B’ in summer should have been to find a way of playing within games that we can rely on when confidence drops a little - even for brief periods to re-gather ourselves. Whether that’s a physical striker who can hold it up, or some pace to switch to being a bit more counter attacking, it doesn’t matter.

Weve seen time and time again, in pressure games, we often freeze and just look limp.

[jimbo]

Oh, and I don’t think he’s going yet. I think defeats to Wycombe and Barnsley will do it. If we pick up 2 or 3 points from those games I’ve a feeling it will drag on.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Having caught MotD this morning and see Ipswich score of a free header from a corner I’m not sure o Neil is what we need. Having said that I’d swap this tosser for Mrs o Neil at the moment.

Aye, they’ve conceded 16 from set pieces - twice as many as the next highest - and his last act was to call out the players as not good enough for the level. I like Gaz a lot and wish him well but I’m unsure he’s what we need, I’m certain he wouldn’t come, and I’m glad I can now get back to properly disliking Wolves.

[Bertie Wooster]

I wonder what Michael James thinks as the only BWFC fan on the board. He must be able to see that we have gone backwards, he must have family and friends who are Bolton fans and who want Evatt out and give the the same reasons as most.

After the Huddersfield & Stockport debacle's there where rumours that Evatt only had one person on the board still defending him i.e. SB - surely she doesn't have that much influence now with the Swiss being major investors ?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

“I’m the boss, I’m the manager and I’m not good enough, it’s as simple as that. I have to find a way to talk to them, train them, the way they have to play, press and build-up, and I’m not good enough. I’m not doing well. That is the truth.”

Evatt? Course not. It's Pep Guardiola.

“I am completely convinced by what I’m saying that I’m not good enough to find a way so that players find peace in their bodies and mind, so that it doesn’t matter what happens. I’m not good.”

[TonyDomingos]

I see Brizzle Rovers have shown their manager the door this morning. But, they're in a far worse position than us.

[BWFC_Insane]

“I’m the boss, I’m the manager and I’m not good enough, it’s as simple as that. I have to find a way to talk to them, train them, the way they have to play, press and build-up, and I’m not good enough. I’m not doing well. That is the truth.”

Evatt? Course not. It's Pep Guardiola.

“I am completely convinced by what I’m saying that I’m not good enough to find a way so that players find peace in their bodies and mind, so that it doesn’t matter what happens. I’m not good.”

I saw that. And pep is of course totally justified if he said ‘if we lose every game till the end of the season I’m still the best and most successful manager you have ever had or will ever have and you know I will rebuild from wherever we end up.’

Yet he didn’t say that.


Evatt behaving like he’s got pep’s record is why the whole thing is going toxic.

[officer_dibble]

I’m done me. I was born a Bolton fan, not an Ian Evatt FC fan. I’d implore all going on Boxing Day (Sharon’s not having my cash) to sing along to “Ian Evatt your football is shit” as it’s the personal stuff that hurts him. I want this fecking toxic imbecile gone. He knows son much more than us but can only manage a 50% win rate when playing with a team and a budget bigger than 90% of the teams. It’s shit Ian. You are shit. Go feck yourself!

[Bertie Wooster]

I’m done me. I was born a Bolton fan, not an Ian Evatt FC fan. I’d implore all going on Boxing Day (Sharon’s not having my cash) to sing along to “Ian Evatt your football is shit” as it’s the personal stuff that hurts him. I want this fecking toxic imbecile gone. He knows son much more than us but can only manage a 50% win rate when playing with a team and a budget bigger than 90% of the teams. It’s shit Ian. You are shit. Go feck yourself!

I'm also not going on Boxing day, I can't sit through anymore shite, boring, turgid Evatt sleep ball its depressing.

Totally support those who do go singing 'Ian Evatt your football is shit' as loud as possible - as like you say his ego won't take that, as I said yesterday if the board won't get rid of him the fans can do quite easily.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I see Brizzle Rovers have shown their manager the door this morning. But, they're in a far worse position than us.

They are indeed. But they've also only spent one season in the top two tiers since the abolition of the backpass and the concurrent creations of the Premier League and Champions League - and that season was the very first season after the abolition of the backpass and the concurrent creations of the Premier League and Champions League. Basically, they haven't been in the upper divisions since before we bought back Jimmy Phillips.

So I'd say the targets for the season were different, but we're both currently on course to start next season in League One. And right now we're closer to manager-sacking strugglers Bristol Rovers than we are to automatic promotion – in fact, we're closer to relegation than to automatic promotion.

[BWFC_Insane]

I’m done me. I was born a Bolton fan, not an Ian Evatt FC fan. I’d implore all going on Boxing Day (Sharon’s not having my cash) to sing along to “Ian Evatt your football is shit” as it’s the personal stuff that hurts him. I want this fecking toxic imbecile gone. He knows son much more than us but can only manage a 50% win rate when playing with a team and a budget bigger than 90% of the teams. It’s shit Ian. You are shit. Go feck yourself!

This. And look, people can say what they want but when the likes of us who have followed the club for a long time and generally have a history of backing them and indeed managers against the odds are saying it (inspite of popular misconceptions I’ve rarely been part of a manager out pile on, rarely), you know things are as bad as they can possibly be.

I don’t enjoy it. And I have to consider this is just ageing. Falling out with football. But I think last season and Wembley are the root cause. I saw it all happening. Ahead of time. I think many did deep down. Yet those in charge saw fit to let it all happen then blow smoke up the root cause’s ass.

I can cope with a team being poor. Having no money. Having little hope. What I can’t abide is resources being thrown away because a manager is so poor, especially when their ego is off the scale without any justification. Evatt thinks you can be a good manager without the hard yards. Without dealing with the mess, having fans get annoyed, and without going through the process of years and years of horrible graft and self improvement. He thinks like his players that you should be able to short circuit it. Football is a place where you earn the right to manage Bolton wanderers. Evatt never earned it yet came in like we were lucky. He is only about Ian Evatt - he doesn’t give a monkey about this club he just saw it as a convenient shortcut yet instead he’s driven it off a cliff and his own ego is telling everyone he’s already ahead of the destination whilst we all plummet to our doom.

[Harry Genshaw]

I won't be joining any boycott, other than perhaps giving one or two aways that i might have travelled to, a miss. I am sympathetic though to those who decide to give it a miss for a spell. Until there's a change of manager, even celebrating a future late winner, it would still be in the back of my mind that it would be fairly meaningless as we're not going up while he's still in charge.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I won't be joining any boycott, other than perhaps giving one or two aways that i might have travelled to, a miss. I am sympathetic though to those who decide to give it a miss for a spell. Until there's a change of manager, even celebrating a future late winner, it would still be in the back of my mind that it would be fairly meaningless as we're not going up while he's still in charge.

This is where I'm at. I don't hate the man and I don't hate Sharon for essentially being overprotective. I think both should do better (and Sharon should put the club first) but rather than feeling anger I just feel a lingering sadness and frustration.

[Worthy4England]

I wonder what Michael James thinks as the only BWFC fan on the board. He must be able to see that we have gone backwards, he must have family and friends who are Bolton fans and who want Evatt out and give the the same reasons as most.

After the Huddersfield & Stockport debacle's there where rumours that Evatt only had one person on the board still defending him i.e. SB - surely she doesn't have that much influence now with the Swiss being major investors ?

I don't get the sense that there is some sort of "power struggle," with SB holding out in spite of everyone else.

The Swiss thing, they have around half of Sharon's shares and were bought in (probably) by her mate, Nick Lucock coz BMLL is Nick's brother and his mates.

The rumour sniffs of bullshit, not in the sense Board members might have different opinions, but if they were all of a different mind they have the voting shares to outvote. In that sense, there doesn't appear to be a rift all these folks not of the same mind as Sharon are looking to vote on.

[Mar]

I won't be joining any boycott, other than perhaps giving one or two aways that i might have travelled to, a miss. I am sympathetic though to those who decide to give it a miss for a spell. Until there's a change of manager, even celebrating a future late winner, it would still be in the back of my mind that it would be fairly meaningless as we're not going up while he's still in charge.

I'd agree with this.

I've been keen on Evatt turning it all around and addressing the problems at the club. It's a far better way to end than to stay long enough to become the pantomime villain in the story, but like yourself, I don't see it happening and there is mounting evidence to say it never will.

It's getting towards an old-yeller scenario. Some lovely good times, until it all turned sour, the longer we persist the more nastier the barking becomes. Sometimes its best to lay those memories to rest and move on.

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[BWFC_Insane]

I wonder what Michael James thinks as the only BWFC fan on the board. He must be able to see that we have gone backwards, he must have family and friends who are Bolton fans and who want Evatt out and give the the same reasons as most.

After the Huddersfield & Stockport debacle's there where rumours that Evatt only had one person on the board still defending him i.e. SB - surely she doesn't have that much influence now with the Swiss being major investors ?

I don't get the sense that there is some sort of "power struggle," with SB holding out in spite of everyone else.

The Swiss thing, they have around half of Sharon's shares and were bought in (probably) by her mate, Nick Lucock coz BMLL is Nick's brother and his mates.

The rumour sniffs of bullshit, not in the sense Board members might have different opinions, but if they were all of a different mind they have the voting shares to outvote. In that sense, there doesn't appear to be a rift all these folks not of the same mind as Sharon are looking to vote on.

Hang on - they could as a board presumably remove Sharon as CEO. But as it stands they can’t (to my knowledge) sack Evatt directly regardless of voting rights. Sharon is CEO.

[Mar]

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No change.

Sure. Could be something or nothing, new release, updated content, etc, or it could be that they're making changes in line for a future release. Seemed a bit odd that it would be specific to things related to staff pages as the rest of the site had no issues that I was aware.

I was actually browsing to see if I could find out who replaced Neil Hart, as he's been very quiet since becoming CEO, as has Sharon.