Freedman out!

[Gravedigger]

The latest to line up and give us a homily, "Wanderers defender Dorian Dervite is confident the tide will soon turn for his new club in the Championship – starting tonight against Rotherham United." So just about everyone has said that things get better but glaring omission, they don't say when. If we can't afford to get rid of DF what makes Eddie and Phil think we can afford to drop to League 1?

[Bruce Rioja]

Thus begging the question, Shit-for-Brains, why the feck did Mason play up top in a one on Saturday?????

“Tonight typifies the performance of the two strikers, who I thought were both outstanding,” said Freedman. “Joe has got a big future. Him and Craig Davies were immense tonight.

“Joe is still learning his trade but I believe when you give him game time he will get you goals and he showed that here tonight.

“Craig was a handful all night and his runs off the ball were very good. Our strikers were asking questions of the Rotherham defence all night.”

[coffeymagic]

Dougie's problem is now how to change the team in order to eff up the spirit and enjoyment from last night.

Mason out, Beckford in goal, Moxey to play with no shorts on.

I think I've just cracked a Dougie Freddman anxiety dream.

[LeverEnd]

I've no doubt he'll risk draining any positivity from the squad with more negative bullshit at some point. It's going to take much more than a home win over Rotherham to change people's minds. I would like to see him gone today because I think we'd see much better football and more excitement without him.
Let's hope they keep playing positively in spite of him and the penny drops at sone point.

Talking of sackings, looks like solskjaer is on his bike any time now.

[Peter Thompson]

For me last night proves everything that most have been saying for a long time....

If we attack teams, put them under pressure and give them something to think about (like we did after going a goal down) instead of just continually sitting back inviting pressure, this team is capable of winning a reasonable amount of matches in this league - certainly enough to have us mid table and it will keep the fans off his back because the football is better to watch.

If he doesn't take this on board and reverts to type with his bingo machine selections at the weekend he's more of an complete idiot that I thought possible. Yes it's only one game but he needs to learn very quickly that sitting back giving poor teams the majority of possession and trying to win 1-0 isn't going to work. Who knows perhaps playing a settled side and letting the players attack in numbers and actually express themselves may breed confidence in the team.

Will he learn....who knows!

[SmokinFrazier]

Craig Davies is a pretty good player and the decision to send him out on loan last season was a strange one. Actually, when you look at the strikers we used in our good run at the end of Freedman's first season in charge, it's baffling that they were all treated with disregard the season after. N'Gog was effective and did really well, Sordell had a good goalscoring record, starting 16 times and scoring 8 times, and Craig Davies was good too. Fair enough, they didn't set the world alight but they were effective yet the season after, Sordell went immediately on loan, Davies wasn't given a chance and started only 2 games, and N'Gog was in a team which constantly switched formation/personnel. Why? They were good enough in the previous season so it's odd that they weren't given a chance the season after.

What happened last night is why I don't understand why some fans dismiss us as being awful. We have the ability to play good, attacking football but it's about mentality and unless we have the mindset that we want to dominate teams, we won't do. Against Wednesday, we played awful football and only had 6 shots with one on target. Last night, we had 20 shots with 9 on target and whilst a couple of players had changed, that wasn't the difference, the mindset was. I firmly believe that if we had an attacking manager who wanted to win each game 6-0, we'd be much higher up the table but we constantly give the opposition too much respect. Last night was nice but until it happens week in week out, we won't progress.

[Worthy4England]

Craig Davies is a pretty good player and the decision to send him out on loan last season was a strange one. Actually, when you look at the strikers we used in our good run at the end of Freedman's first season in charge, it's baffling that they were all treated with disregard the season after. N'Gog was effective and did really well, Sordell had a good goalscoring record, starting 16 times and scoring 8 times, and Craig Davies was good too. Fair enough, they didn't set the world alight but they were effective yet the season after, Sordell went immediately on loan, Davies wasn't given a chance and started only 2 games, and N'Gog was in a team which constantly switched formation/personnel. Why? They were good enough in the previous season so it's odd that they weren't given a chance the season after.

What happened last night is why I don't understand why some fans dismiss us as being awful. We have the ability to play good, attacking football but it's about mentality and unless we have the mindset that we want to dominate teams, we won't do. Against Wednesday, we played awful football and only had 6 shots with one on target. Last night, we had 20 shots with 9 on target and whilst a couple of players had changed, that wasn't the difference, the mindset was. I firmly believe that if we had an attacking manager who wanted to win each game 6-0, we'd be much higher up the table but we constantly give the opposition too much respect. Last night was nice but until it happens week in week out, we won't progress.

Did you see the match (I'm guessing you didn't as you said you'd stopped going)? We weren't very good at all for 60 mins and until we made some substitutions. We didn't play 90 mins attacking football and just happen to come out on the right side of a "thriller" - We conceded two goals again and were godawful for the majority of the match.

Trying to assess it by BBC stats doesn't cut it.

[jaffka]

One game doesn't make a season and overall we are still in the shite. However last night was fun, let's bask in the victory and feel good factor. Saturday it will probably all be shite again.

[William the White]

One game doesn't make a season and overall we are still in the shite. However last night was fun, let's bask in the victory and feel good factor. Saturday it will probably all be shite again.

Sound advice. Perhaps easier to say than do.

[LeverEnd]

Well yes, I enjoyed the game and the victory and was excited by BWFC for the first time in ages. It makes no difference at all to my opinion on Freedman, which is that we should be rid of him ASAP. However it won't stop me enjoying a victory and good performance just because it might keep him in a job he doesn't deserve to hold. If I felt so strongly about Freedman that I couldn't enjoy a 10 minute goal scoring burst and young player getting a hat-trick, I'd just stay away I suppose.

[EverSoYouri]

Dougie's problem is now how to change the team in order to eff up the spirit and enjoyment from last night.

Mason out, Beckford in goal, Moxey to play with no shorts on.

I think I've just cracked a Dougie Freddman anxiety dream.

[SmokinFrazier]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

[twilight]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

They wouldn't come to bolton unfortunately

[Nicko58]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

They wouldn't come to bolton unfortunately

Hughton and McDermott would (IMO), but you're right about Pulis.

[thebish]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition.

I'm sure Pulis has ambition - I'm not sure how becoming Bolton manager would help further his ambition!

[Bruce Rioja]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

Are you having a laugh? Apropos what exactly?

[Worthy4England]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

Are you having a laugh? Apropos what exactly?

Can't deny he has a great record!

[Bruce Rioja]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

Are you having a laugh? Apropos what exactly?

Can't deny he has a great record!

Managing a team that I could manage doesn't qualify a man to turn around our fortunes. Or else I'd be doing it.

[Worthy4England]

Apparently Pulis was interested in the Cardiff job but the owner isn't keen, and Neil Lennon has come out and said he'd go for either the Cardiff or Fulham jobs. These are the sort of managers we should be going for and, unlike Cardiff, have a Premier League quality set up as an incentive for any manager with ambition. Those two, Hughton, McDermott etc., would all be good replacements for Freedman.

Are you having a laugh? Apropos what exactly?

Can't deny he has a great record!

Managing a team that I could manage doesn't qualify a man to turn around our fortunes. Or else I'd be doing it.

I should have looked for the "flippant" smiley.

[Prufrock]

Cardiff defo have the set up. Not the history but they've got a shit ton of money.

I do think the 'who could we get?' is a valid argument in itself, but there are plenty names I think we'd have a chance for I'd be happy with.

We're not in the utter disgrace getting thumped every week, but playing OK and nearly getting a draw when we get beat, and nearly winning when we draw is a really really dangerous way to be!