BOLTON v THE PIE MEN

[Annoyed Grunt]

...heard a rumour that moo was dropped cos he showed up late... anyone else heard this?

if so - nose/face!

"I can't really tell the reason why I wasn't involved today, that will get me into much trouble but thanks for all your message"

From him on Twitter.

[Gail Platz]

I've been in the pro Coyle camp for some time now but even I was stunned and pissed off as I walked into the ground and saw no Muamba in the side and that lump of fecking lard that's supposedly our captain up front.

I said to my mate before it kicked off, "we might as well feck off home now and just give them the three points, this is a loss all over".

Seriously, what the feck? What the actual fecking feck was that team selection all about? Can anyone really, really be that completely clueless? I thought he'd finally seen sense putting the 4-5-1 formation without fat lard arse in the side, but then he reverted back to it when every fecking person in the stadium can see that it doesn't work, except him?

We're fecked, we're gone. I don't even give a shit anymore. I just hope them and Blackburn come down with us so we have some short away trips next season.

Oh one more thing, why do people use the term "SKD"? He isn't super, he hasn't been for four years now, he's fecking shit, and needs to get out of our club right now.

[thebish]

...heard a rumour that moo was dropped cos he showed up late... anyone else heard this?

if so - nose/face!

"I can't really tell the reason why I wasn't involved today, that will get me into much trouble but thanks for all your message"

From him on Twitter.

seems there might be a story behind it then - like the disgraceful omission of the one-eyed wonder-kid!

[seanworth]

Didn't see anything until after the result. Very surprised, disappointed and pissed that Muamba didn't play though.

[Sponge]

As if to illustrate the point that 442 is a dying formation we have us getting beat by Wigan and Toon getting spanked by Spuds.

It's not rocket since we need to play with NRC/Moobs covering the back four and then a midfield three in which Mavis is the attacking option.

Anyone know what happened to Ream/Sordell?

sordell is rumoured to have lost an eye in a grisly training ground accident

Ream ran so fast in tests that he went right out of the training ground, Past Preston, shot round Birmingham and has never been seen again...

FFS, Bish, that was La Toux. And he ran all the way to Philadelphia and missed his medical—which is why we didn't sign him.

[TANGODANCER]

Never seen Tuncay work as hard as he did today. Was something of a brightspot against a dark grey background.

Thank you. Thought it was just my imagination. He wanted the ball,used it well and was willing (and skilful) enough to take a man on and beat him. Tuncay and Miachi were the only ones who actually looked like it wasn't their first game of football. Even Drogba, Torres and Rooney would have made no impression on our alehouse welly's that went straight to defenders almost every time. Every flick, pass, bounce and hoof were won by Wigan every single time. We looked like a load of donkeys chasing thoroughbreds. We deserved nothing and got it. Our goal was a goalkick that one-bounced off N'gog and fell fortuitously to Mark Davies. If Wigan are the worst team in the league then what does that make us? Credit to them, they played football and were six shades better than us.

Divers, cloggers,a wonder save by Al-Habsi and a ref who needs to visit Specsavers apart, it would have been a travesty if we got anything playing like that. Clueless, plotless and hopeless. I found it really hard to think we beat Liverpool 3-1 and can play like that within a fortnight. Disgusted.

[TKIZ!]

Never seen Tuncay work as hard as he did today. Was something of a brightspot against a dark grey background.

Thank you. Thought it was just my imagination. He wanted the ball,used it well and was willing (and skilful) enough to take a man on and beat him. Tuncay and Miachi were the only ones who actually looked like it wasn't their first game of football. Even Drogba, Torres and Rooney would have made no impression on our alehouse welly's that went straight to defenders almost every time. Every flick, pass, bounce and hoof were won by Wigan every single time. We looked like a load of donkeys chasing thoroughbreds. We deserved nothing and got it. Our goal was a goalkick that one-bounced off N'gog and fell fortuitously to Mark Davies. If Wigan are the worst team in the league then what does that make us? Credit to them, they played football and were six shades better than us.

Divers, cloggers,a wonder save by Al-Habsi and a ref who needs to visit Specsavers apart, it would have been a travesty if we got anything playing like that. Clueless, plotless and hopeless. I found it really hard to think we beat Liverpool 3-1 and can play like that within a fortnight. Disgusted.

Pretty much sums it up for me. Hard to believe this is the same side that beat Bin dippers and held a rampaging Gooner side at bay. Two defeats to two fairly well organised 451 playing sides should be enough to illustrate the point. However as Coyle is stubborn I feel it won't.

[Always hopeful]

I've been in the pro Coyle camp for some time now but even I was stunned and pissed off as I walked into the ground and saw no Muamba in the side and that lump of fecking lard that's supposedly our captain up front.

I said to my mate before it kicked off, "we might as well feck off home now and just give them the three points, this is a loss all over".

Seriously, what the feck? What the actual fecking feck was that team selection all about? Can anyone really, really be that completely clueless? I thought he'd finally seen sense putting the 4-5-1 formation without fat lard arse in the side, but then he reverted back to it when every fecking person in the stadium can see that it doesn't work, except him?

We're fecked, we're gone. I don't even give a shit anymore. I just hope them and Blackburn come down with us so we have some short away trips next season.

Oh one more thing, why do people use the term "SKD"? He isn't super, he hasn't been for four years now, he's fecking shit, and needs to get out of our club right now.

I agree with most of your points, but let's not be too harsh on SKD. It's not his fault that he's still being asked to play. Yes, he's past it and has been for some time now. In fact I spent most of the afternoon shouting for Coyle to take him off. But I agree that if we continue to play him, then there's a real risk that all we'll remember him for is being that useless lump of lard that helped get us relegated. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves the SKD title and to be given testimonial and allowed to retire gracefully.

The problem is with Mr Coyle.

[thebish]

I agree with most of your points, but let's not be too harsh on SKD. It's not his fault that he's still being asked to play. Yes, he's past it and has been for some time now. In fact I spent most of the afternoon shouting for Coyle to take him off. But I agree that if we continue to play him, then there's a real risk that all we'll remember him for is being that useless lump of lard that helped get us relegated. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves the SKD title and to be given testimonial and allowed to retire gracefully.

The problem is with Mr Coyle.

yes - to a point... but KD is being paid handsomely to be an effective premiership striker!

[Armchair Wanderer]

That didn't feel like the worst performance I've been to this season but the cold and the performance and the fact that it's rock bottom Wigan made it feel pretty bad. Wigan had about 60% possession in the first half

Football is something you can look into as shallowly or as deeply as you want, but like someone said earlier Coyle is making me feel like a genius.

The goals didn't come from the formation as such but when you only have 40% possession at home and are always defending you're putting yourself under a lot of pressure.

I'm not a STH and compared to the people who go to every game home and away I'm a rubbish fan so I'm not really qualified to be calling for anyone's head... But might wait til it's warmer and we look like we're going to play football before going again.

[Always hopeful]

I agree with most of your points, but let's not be too harsh on SKD. It's not his fault that he's still being asked to play. Yes, he's past it and has been for some time now. In fact I spent most of the afternoon shouting for Coyle to take him off. But I agree that if we continue to play him, then there's a real risk that all we'll remember him for is being that useless lump of lard that helped get us relegated. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves the SKD title and to be given testimonial and allowed to retire gracefully.

The problem is with Mr Coyle.

yes - to a point... but KD is being paid handsomely to be an effective premiership striker!

So (putting the fact that your a BWFC fan to one side for a minute), if you were in his position you'd hold your hand up and say "I tell you what, rather than me doing what I love doing and getting paid well for doing so, I'll give it all up, for the best of BWFC"?

[Tals-biggest-fan]

Maybe Moo and Marv had a bit of a tussle and Moo's hit Marv???

[Worthy4England]

Beaten from the moment the team/formation was announced I was on here looking at the forums, just before I bought my ticket, and someone posted the team. Almost didn't bother booking the ticket, but went ahead on the offchance.

4-4-2 first half blatantly wasn't working, I half thought that at half time, the clueless c*nt would have switched to 4-5-1. Two stikers and no possession doesn't make "an attacking formation, capable of winning a game".

Petrov - really frustrating - couldn't get the ball past about waist height from (m)any of the opportunities he had - corners, etc. Eagles a non-entity for most of today.

So I figured, half time, replace SKD with Moo - SKD wasn't worth the time on the pitch today. And maybe replace Petrov with Miyachi.

However you look at this, Captain Clueless seems to have a downer on Muamba (drops him at any possible opportunity) and Klasnic - (our only natural goalscorer)...

fecking, fecking, Clueless.

Oh and I just wish the Pie-Eating bastards had torched themselves with all thouse smoke bombs they were letting off.

[P.O.S.]

Just got back in, can't really add more to what's been said - Im just at a loss basically. Just cant understand why you'd go back to something that wasnt working, after stumbling upon something that was. Doesnt quite go according to plan away at Norwich - so, what? Rip it all up and start over? Ridiculous, naive and absolutely stupid. Stupid.

Whats this about Sordell's eye is there any update? Very worrying that is I hope he's okay. Meanwhile this Muamba update on his twitter is interesting - what the hell is going on?

*Ah just saw on another thread about Sordell, doesnt sound quite so bad then at least.

[TANGODANCER]

*Ah just saw on another thread about Sordell, doesnt sound quite so bad then at least.

Sordell will fare no better than KD, N'gog or Klasnic till we stop lashing hopeful balls mindlessly in the general direction of the opposition box with nobody in support. We need to keep some possession, learn not to panic-pass everytime a defender gets near us, indeed learn how to make any sort of pass that finds an unmarked White shirt. This means a White shirt finding space which right now seems only between ears. Same old, same old today, penned in our own half for long periods and not causing an attack of any sort worth mention. Did N'gog have a shot on goal all day? If he did I didn't see it. Goal and Miachi's effort apart, our best two shots came from a fullback. How sad is that?

Let's face it, teams are beating us by using the same "in your face" game that we played so well at one time and we look like the bullied rather than the bullies right now. Wigan didn't look like relegation candidates today; they looked a decent side. We looked like a Sunday League pub team by comparison.

[Verbal]

We completed fewer than two passes a minute in the first half. I can only assume DSB is contemplating cyanide after looking at our stats for the whole game.

[Worthy4England]

*Ah just saw on another thread about Sordell, doesnt sound quite so bad then at least.

Sordell will fare no better than KD, N'gog or Klasnic till we stop lashing hopeful balls mindlessly in the general direction of the opposition box with nobody in support. We need to keep some possession, learn not to panic-pass everytime a defender gets near us, indeed learn how to make any sort of pass that finds an unmarked White shirt. This means a White shirt finding space which right now seems only between ears. Same old, same old today, penned in our own half for long periods and not causing an attack of any sort worth mention. Did N'gog have a shot on goal all day? If he did I didn't see it. Goal and Miachi's effort apart, our best two shots came from a fullback. How sad is that?

Let's face it, teams are beating us by using the same "in your face" game that we played so well at one time and we look like the bullied rather than the bullies right now. Wigan didn't look like relegation candidates today; they looked a decent side. We looked like a Sunday League pub team by comparison.

Agree to a certain extent Tango regarding aimless punts, but NGog dealt way better with the hopeful today than KD. I'm afraid KD is now yesterday's man, unless something remarkable happens in double-quick order. I didn't have the benefit of seeing any replays of the tackle that got him his yellow card, but I thought (from seeing it in real-time) that he was lucky to stay on.

The Scot's guy next to me in the NSL, started shouting "off, off, off" at Howard Webb.

[P.O.S.]

*Ah just saw on another thread about Sordell, doesnt sound quite so bad then at least.

Sordell will fare no better than KD, N'gog or Klasnic till we stop lashing hopeful balls mindlessly in the general direction of the opposition box with nobody in support. We need to keep some possession, learn not to panic-pass everytime a defender gets near us, indeed learn how to make any sort of pass that finds an unmarked White shirt. This means a White shirt finding space which right now seems only between ears. Same old, same old today, penned in our own half for long periods and not causing an attack of any sort worth mention. Did N'gog have a shot on goal all day? If he did I didn't see it. Goal and Miachi's effort apart, our best two shots came from a fullback. How sad is that?

Let's face it, teams are beating us by using the same "in your face" game that we played so well at one time and we look like the bullied rather than the bullies right now. Wigan didn't look like relegation candidates today; they looked a decent side. We looked like a Sunday League pub team by comparison.

Oh I agree, I meant doesnt sound so bad for him personally - we're fooked.

Times gone by Id see Klasnic coming on and think, great, I fancy him to get us a goal here one of those where he'll just turn and finish out of nothing and feel optimistic. Not today, nothing is being created at all to even lead to a half chance. Just boot it long and see what happens.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

For the first time as a bolton fan today I found myself hoping KD would get sent off so Coyle would have less opportunity to play 442 and that we wouldnt go on to win after the equalizer allowing the deluded coyle to kid himself that his selection was sane afterall.

It's definitely not the end though. Miyaichi looks like he could do a better job than Petrov on the left,Tuncay showed that he could play in the Mavis role when Mavis has run himself out and we still have Sordell and Ream to come in.

Who knows,this defeat(and it cant be worse or more obvious than getting outclassed by what is really the weakest team in the league) may finally see the penny drop and Coyle adopting the approach that everyone can see works.His ineptitude has lost us what should have been 4 points in the last two games and has undone everything gained in January.

If he is stupid enough to continue to ignore the bleeding obvious I can see some pretty hostile scenes developing down the Bok.

[Athers]

We completed fewer than two passes a minute in the first half. I can only assume DSB is contemplating cyanide after looking at our stats for the whole game.

After the first 5 minutes the only two shots we had until M.Davies' screamer out of nowhere ('67) were the Reo-Coker miscue on '17 and Wheater on '61 with a shot from a position he wasn't going to score from.