Away at Mick McCarthy's Super Ipswich Town
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Re: Away at Mick McCarthy's Super Ipswich Town
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BWFC_Insane wrote:Or perhaps, you slightly underrate strikers we have at Bolton.Raven wrote:Yep can't hide that one, both planks, we just have a load of them, should pop down to Jewsons!
Just saying, it's a possibility like......
Then why do we not score more?
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Only 5 sides in the championship have scored more than us.Hoboh wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Or perhaps, you slightly underrate strikers we have at Bolton.Raven wrote:Yep can't hide that one, both planks, we just have a load of them, should pop down to Jewsons!
Just saying, it's a possibility like......
Then why do we not score more?
So we're hardly near the bottom in those terms.
I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
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who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
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I suspect if given a "full" season that NGog and Craig Davies would comfortably get ten each. NGog has 6 from 18 starts. So extrapolate that over a full season....thebish wrote:who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
Anyhow, you get my point. We lack a regular goalscorer. So do a lot of teams. Even that isn't the be all and end all. Ask Blackburn fans......
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There's an idea, maybe we can get an amendment to the independece vote and annexe Blackburn to Scotland.BWFC_Insane wrote:I suspect if given a "full" season that NGog and Craig Davies would comfortably get ten each. NGog has 6 from 18 starts. So extrapolate that over a full season....thebish wrote:who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
Anyhow, you get my point. We lack a regular goalscorer. So do a lot of teams. Even that isn't the be all and end all. Ask Blackburn fans......
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Re: Away at Mick McCarthy's Super Ipswich Town
BWFC_Insane wrote:I suspect if given a "full" season that NGog and Craig Davies would comfortably get ten each. NGog has 6 from 18 starts.thebish wrote:who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
I'd buy that if he'd been injured for most of it - but he hasn't - for whatever reason, he's been deemed not good enough by two managers this season to own a starting place... he's had a full season pretty much - he just failed to earn himself a starting place!
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Re: Away at Mick McCarthy's Super Ipswich Town
Sordell has 2 league goals in 10 and I'd also say 6/7 of these games have been off the bench.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:I suspect if given a "full" season that NGog and Craig Davies would comfortably get ten each. NGog has 6 from 18 starts.thebish wrote:who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
I'd buy that if he'd been injured for most of it - but he hasn't - for whatever reason, he's been deemed not good enough by two managers this season to own a starting place... he's had a full season pretty much - he just failed to earn himself a starting place!
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Sordell's started 7 league games, 10 in all comps. We did this a couple of pages back:
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thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:I suspect if given a "full" season that NGog and Craig Davies would comfortably get ten each. NGog has 6 from 18 starts.thebish wrote:who said 20?? 10 would be nice!!BWFC_Insane wrote: I don't think it's a shock that we haven't got a 20 goal a season striker, I'm sure we want one. There aren't very many of them around though, are there?
I'd buy that if he'd been injured for most of it - but he hasn't - for whatever reason, he's been deemed not good enough by two managers this season to own a starting place... he's had a full season pretty much - he just failed to earn himself a starting place!
But generally our strikers have rotated. In fact since hitting form NGog has been the constant around which the others have rotated.
Anyhow that was not the point. We clearly have player who it isn't a big stretch to think they could score 10 a season.
We don't have anyone who so far looks like a 20 goal plus a season man.
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Anyhow that was not the point. We clearly have player who it isn't a big stretch to think they could score 10 a season.
We don't have anyone who so far looks like a 20 goal plus a season man.
what's his per season goalscoring record with us so far?
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I mean that I don't think it's a massive stretch to say that Craig Davies, Sordell and NGog are all capable if given a full season of getting 10 goals or thereabouts, perhaps even better, in THIS division.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:
Anyhow that was not the point. We clearly have player who it isn't a big stretch to think they could score 10 a season.
We don't have anyone who so far looks like a 20 goal plus a season man.
what's his per season goalscoring record with us so far?
That's what I think anyhow.
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BWFC_Insane wrote:I mean that I don't think it's a massive stretch to say that Craig Davies, Sordell and NGog are all capable if given a full season of getting 10 goals or thereabouts, perhaps even better, in THIS division.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:
Anyhow that was not the point. We clearly have player who it isn't a big stretch to think they could score 10 a season.
We don't have anyone who so far looks like a 20 goal plus a season man.
what's his per season goalscoring record with us so far?
That's what I think anyhow.
do you think dougie is going to stop rotating strikers in the future? if not - then what Ngog has done through the rotating seasons is surely relevant to what he might do in the future..
he has NEVER scored 10 club goals in a season
in 63 games for Liverpool - he scored 9
in 59 games for us he has scored 9
in 18 games for PSG he scored 1
a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
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Exactly.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:I mean that I don't think it's a massive stretch to say that Craig Davies, Sordell and NGog are all capable if given a full season of getting 10 goals or thereabouts, perhaps even better, in THIS division.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:
Anyhow that was not the point. We clearly have player who it isn't a big stretch to think they could score 10 a season.
We don't have anyone who so far looks like a 20 goal plus a season man.
what's his per season goalscoring record with us so far?
That's what I think anyhow.
do you think dougie is going to stop rotating strikers in the future? if not - then what Ngog has done through the rotating seasons is surely relevant to what he might do in the future..
he has NEVER scored 10 club goals in a season
in 63 games for Liverpool - he scored 9
in 59 games for us he has scored 9
in 18 games for PSG he scored 1
a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
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I don't see what is so "exactly" about it... if he is that nailed on, then both Coyle and Dougie clearly didn't/don't agree with you... else they would have given him a full season!BWFC_Insane wrote:Exactly.thebish wrote: a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
this season (championship) Ngog has scored 6 in 28 - if he kept up that form over 46 games - he'd still fall short of 10 for the season!
i don't doubt he has a contribution to the team - but it's not goals... not enough (anyway) for me to think he'd be nailed on to score 10 or more in a season..
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6 goals in 18 league starts according to the stats page DSB posted.thebish wrote:I don't see what is so "exactly" about it... if he is that nailed on, then both Coyle and Dougie clearly didn't/don't agree with you... else they would have given him a full season!BWFC_Insane wrote:Exactly.thebish wrote: a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
this season (championship) Ngog has scored 6 in 28 - if he kept up that form over 46 games - he'd still fall short of 10 for the season!
i don't doubt he has a contribution to the team - but it's not goals... not enough (anyway) for me to think he'd be nailed on to score 10 or more in a season..
So that's under half a season worth of starts....
And the exactly was that nowhere in your stats were you looking at the level we are currently at!
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dont forget though that strikers are not just about scoring goals thoughthebish wrote:I don't see what is so "exactly" about it... if he is that nailed on, then both Coyle and Dougie clearly didn't/don't agree with you... else they would have given him a full season!BWFC_Insane wrote:Exactly.thebish wrote: a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
this season (championship) Ngog has scored 6 in 28 - if he kept up that form over 46 games - he'd still fall short of 10 for the season!
i don't doubt he has a contribution to the team - but it's not goals... not enough (anyway) for me to think he'd be nailed on to score 10 or more in a season..
who posted that again
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So you're only counting the number of games he's started but you're counting the goals he's scored off the bench in those?! Fecking genius!BWFC_Insane wrote:6 goals in 18 league starts according to the stats page DSB posted.thebish wrote:I don't see what is so "exactly" about it... if he is that nailed on, then both Coyle and Dougie clearly didn't/don't agree with you... else they would have given him a full season!BWFC_Insane wrote:Exactly.thebish wrote: a championship season of playing in every game is 46 games... if he can't do it in 63 or 59 - what makes you so sure he can do it in 46?
this season (championship) Ngog has scored 6 in 28 - if he kept up that form over 46 games - he'd still fall short of 10 for the season!
i don't doubt he has a contribution to the team - but it's not goals... not enough (anyway) for me to think he'd be nailed on to score 10 or more in a season..
So that's under half a season worth of starts....
And the exactly was that nowhere in your stats were you looking at the level we are currently at!
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