Now he's gone, who's next?
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Right, I wish they'd make a decision now because I bloody dreamt about it last night!
I've read all the views on here on each of the "favourites" and it seems OGS has emerged as my favourite too. I do fear if he declines, that Phil will fall-back on the "safe" option of Mick McCarthy. That's just my worry, he might not (and hopefully isn't) even be in the running, as the papers are saying.
I've read all the views on here on each of the "favourites" and it seems OGS has emerged as my favourite too. I do fear if he declines, that Phil will fall-back on the "safe" option of Mick McCarthy. That's just my worry, he might not (and hopefully isn't) even be in the running, as the papers are saying.
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There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...
OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.
Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.
Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.
Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.
Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.
Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.
Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
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Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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Re MM this is where I am I think.Worthy4England wrote:There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...
OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.
Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.
Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.
Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
Something about McCarthy I like - probably his northenerness. He certainly hasn't got the twattish qualities of the ginger get.
I suspect, though, we'll be subject to 4-4-2 with the lumbering dinosaur upfront.
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But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.thebish wrote:aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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That's my main worry. Plus the number of goals his wolves side seemed to concede.Wandering Willy wrote:Re MM this is where I am I think.Worthy4England wrote:There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...
OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.
Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.
Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.
Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
Something about McCarthy I like - probably his northenerness. He certainly hasn't got the twattish qualities of the ginger get.
I suspect, though, we'll be subject to 4-4-2 with the lumbering dinosaur upfront.
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We could stop at the car dealers just by the motorway entrance and get a new one if we get that far.thebish wrote:aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
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OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.thebish wrote:aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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thebish wrote:Lost Leopard Spot wrote:But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.thebish wrote:aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.
Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
[I am 100% sure I know what my analogy means, the rest of you must work it out].I think there's mileage in this analogy!!

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I concur. But at least he's not a badge kissing red, unlike GSN (Gary scumbag Neville).CrazyHorse wrote:OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.
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keggers and kenny - they're both at a loose end.. LSL was the trojan horse - dream triumvirate!
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But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.
As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.
McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.
And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.
I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.
They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.
My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.
McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?
Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.
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That's one thing that bothers me...I'm yet to have this discussion with my dad but I doubt he'll be best pleased when I say OGS (CrazyHorse wrote:OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.

Actually if I say OGS he'll say who, then I'll have to say his full name.
Another thing is, a sign saying "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Super White Army" is going to cost a fortune and may not even fit across the North Stand

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BWFC_Insane wrote:But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.
As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.
McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.
And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.
I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.
They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.
My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.
McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?
Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.
that's all clear - and I think most people seem grudgingly to be in the "if Mad Mick came - then I wouldn't be excited but I would understand it" camp.
so - my other question - is there a realistic candidate whose appointment WOULD excite you?
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Not really. But I'm not bothered about excitement "on an appointment". We went through all that stuff with Coyle.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.
As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.
McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.
And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.
I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.
They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.
My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.
McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?
Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.
that's all clear - and I think most people seem grudgingly to be in the "if Mad Mick came - then I wouldn't be excited but I would understand it" camp.
so - my other question - is there a realistic candidate whose appointment WOULD excite you?
The manager can be dour, predictable, dull but it'll be plenty exciting if he took us back up.
I will be surprised if McCarthy doesn't ultimately get the job. If you were Eddie Davies having just spent a fair bit to get rid of someone you initially thought was a long term manager and invested in his backroom staff etc. Would you, go for another risk in the same mould, and one you'd have to pay for at that, OR go for someone that has a track record of promotion, and generally is a safe (if ultimately limited) pair of hands?
Perhaps he'll take another gamble. But I'd be surprised.
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We defo could not afford that. Say no to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.89bwfc89 wrote: Another thing is, a sign saying "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Super White Army" is going to cost a fortune and may not even fit across the North Stand
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Sorry, I'm still not getting this. The last 2 seasons before this Coyle performed better than Mcarthy at a similar sized club in the same division. Why exactly is he less of a gamble than a man who he was worse than? I need to understand how that logic works.
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