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Who would you like to see replacing Owen Coyle?

Alan Curbishley
15
12%
Paolo di Canio
9
7%
Billy Davies
9
7%
Keith Hill
5
4%
Roy Keane
1
1%
Mick McCarthy
12
9%
Gary Neville
10
8%
A rising lower-league boss (eg Micky Mellon)
11
9%
BWFC legend (eg Hierro/Gudni/McGinlay)
10
8%
Someone from abroad (eg Solskjaer)
35
27%
Someone from within (LSL/Jiminho/Didsy/Zico)
3
2%
AN Other
8
6%
 
Total votes: 128

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by 89bwfc89 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:14 am

Right, I wish they'd make a decision now because I bloody dreamt about it last night!

I've read all the views on here on each of the "favourites" and it seems OGS has emerged as my favourite too. I do fear if he declines, that Phil will fall-back on the "safe" option of Mick McCarthy. That's just my worry, he might not (and hopefully isn't) even be in the running, as the papers are saying.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:26 am

There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...

OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.

Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.

Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.

Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:29 am

Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
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Post by thebish » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:31 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...

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Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:33 am

Worthy4England wrote:There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...

OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.

Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.

Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.

Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
Re MM this is where I am I think.

Something about McCarthy I like - probably his northenerness. He certainly hasn't got the twattish qualities of the ginger get.

I suspect, though, we'll be subject to 4-4-2 with the lumbering dinosaur upfront.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:35 am

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...
But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Beefheart » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:36 am

Wandering Willy wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:There is always the "people who know football" option that as yet is unheralded...

OGS is I think, a bigger gamble than McCarthy, in terms of knowing what we're likely to get, which I guess means OGS could bring something we're not expecting (good or bad). Big Mick wouldn't inspire me as an appointment, but one that I could probably live with. OGS, I think would bring more hope, but could be a disaster too I guess, but I think that's somewhat mitigated by the time he spent at RedShite Reserves.

Not sure Di Canio would work for me (and not really sure why). Appleton not sure about either.

Billy Davis doesn't inspire me, so I think I'm somewhere between Big Mick and OGS. Out of the two probably OGS.

Just as long as he knows that the answer to "Who put the ball in the Munich net" is Kevin Davies.
Re MM this is where I am I think.

Something about McCarthy I like - probably his northenerness. He certainly hasn't got the twattish qualities of the ginger get.

I suspect, though, we'll be subject to 4-4-2 with the lumbering dinosaur upfront.
That's my main worry. Plus the number of goals his wolves side seemed to concede.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:37 am

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...
We could stop at the car dealers just by the motorway entrance and get a new one if we get that far.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:42 am

Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:44 am

OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by thebish » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:45 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...
But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.

[I am 100% sure I know what my analogy means, the rest of you must work it out].
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:48 am

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Well I'm not twisting. Sticking with Mick Mick McCarthy.

Why the hell do we need something new, we need something that works.
aye - but we need summat that doesn't just work until you get onto the motorway and then break down horribly in a plume of smoke and screeching tyres...
But at least get us onto the motorway, and then we can afford AA cover. If we stay on the B-roads we'll run out of petrol.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:50 am

CrazyHorse wrote:OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.
I concur. But at least he's not a badge kissing red, unlike GSN (Gary scumbag Neville).
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by thebish » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:51 am

keggers and kenny - they're both at a loose end.. LSL was the trojan horse - dream triumvirate!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:54 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.

Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.

As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.

McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.

And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.

I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.

They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.

My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.

McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?

Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by 89bwfc89 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:54 am

CrazyHorse wrote:OGS (which appears to be now what we're calling him and I don't approve) is a dirty filthy red. This is an important fact which requires further scrutiny before any decision is made.
That's one thing that bothers me...I'm yet to have this discussion with my dad but I doubt he'll be best pleased when I say OGS ( 8) ) for the reason above!

Actually if I say OGS he'll say who, then I'll have to say his full name.

Another thing is, a sign saying "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Super White Army" is going to cost a fortune and may not even fit across the North Stand :)

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Post by thebish » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:58 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.

Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.

As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.

McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.

And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.

I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.

They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.

My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.

McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?

Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.

that's all clear - and I think most people seem grudgingly to be in the "if Mad Mick came - then I wouldn't be excited but I would understand it" camp.

so - my other question - is there a realistic candidate whose appointment WOULD excite you?

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:05 am

thebish wrote:
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Lord Kangana wrote:Mick Mcarthy is just more of the same-old-same-old. If he's being considered on merit, then there really isn't much of an argument against us also approaching Graeme Souness et al. If he's being considered for reasons of hope triumphing over experience, then you'd have to go with either Appleton or OGS just on the lift it would provide. Rather than a resigned groan.
But thats what we did with Coyle, it didn't work.

Nowt wrong with getting a young manager, so long as they are a good one. And that requires judgement.

As for Appleton, he'll be far worse received by our fans than big Mick.

McCarthy has been second on most polls for who fans want.

And I'm not hoping for McCarthy at all. I could understand his appointment.

I could understand OGS or Appleton or Billy Davies.

They'd all make sense in their own way. They all represent different risks.

My question is more all these people hoping for OGS, cos they know little about him as a manager is strange.

McCarthy may have been around a bit, and unquestionably isn't exciting. But do we need excitement, or someone who definitely knows what they're doing in this division?

Its a genuine question, not offering an opinion either way.

that's all clear - and I think most people seem grudgingly to be in the "if Mad Mick came - then I wouldn't be excited but I would understand it" camp.

so - my other question - is there a realistic candidate whose appointment WOULD excite you?
Not really. But I'm not bothered about excitement "on an appointment". We went through all that stuff with Coyle.

The manager can be dour, predictable, dull but it'll be plenty exciting if he took us back up.

I will be surprised if McCarthy doesn't ultimately get the job. If you were Eddie Davies having just spent a fair bit to get rid of someone you initially thought was a long term manager and invested in his backroom staff etc. Would you, go for another risk in the same mould, and one you'd have to pay for at that, OR go for someone that has a track record of promotion, and generally is a safe (if ultimately limited) pair of hands?

Perhaps he'll take another gamble. But I'd be surprised.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:06 am

89bwfc89 wrote: Another thing is, a sign saying "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Super White Army" is going to cost a fortune and may not even fit across the North Stand :)
We defo could not afford that. Say no to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:08 am

Sorry, I'm still not getting this. The last 2 seasons before this Coyle performed better than Mcarthy at a similar sized club in the same division. Why exactly is he less of a gamble than a man who he was worse than? I need to understand how that logic works.
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