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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:28 am

You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by ChrisC » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:32 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Here you go Bruce :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 9_02_2013/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:35 am

ChrisC wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Here you go Bruce :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 9_02_2013/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10 minutes onwards.
That's just saved me a tea bag and a cup. Cheers, Chris. :D
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:42 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Eh? So he didn't claim a tactical masterstroke at all, did he? He said he's at the football club to make big decisions and then something along the lines of "I felt we needed more up top, so that's what I did". Not sure why your getting your knickers in a twist. The interviewer teed him up to have a go at the boo-boys, and he resisted. Thought it was a pretty modest response, myself.

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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by chester white » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:45 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Here you go Bruce :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 9_02_2013/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10 minutes onwards.
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At work so I can't access it, but I thought he followed it up with 'I won't always get them right'. It just didn't strike me as him giving it the big I am. Can you imagine Big Sam post match if he'd made those changes and copped the amount of flack Dougie did!?
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:45 am

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Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Eh? So he didn't claim a tactical masterstroke at all, did he? He said he's at the football club to make big decisions and then something along the lines of "I felt we needed more up top, so that's what I did". Not sure why your getting your knickers in a twist. The interviewer teed him up to have a go at the boo-boys, and he resisted. Thought it was a pretty modest response, myself.
Ergo: Claiming a tactical masterstoke. Tis not I that's getting my knickers in a twist - however, it clearly is I that can judge inference.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by 89bwfc89 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:52 am

Sponge wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:You didn't here him say, when asked about the substitutions "That's why I'm at the football club, to make the big decisions" then? Nip round to mine if you like, I've Sky +'ed it and everything.

Eh? So he didn't claim a tactical masterstroke at all, did he? He said he's at the football club to make big decisions and then something along the lines of "I felt we needed more up top, so that's what I did". Not sure why your getting your knickers in a twist. The interviewer teed him up to have a go at the boo-boys, and he resisted. Thought it was a pretty modest response, myself.
It happens to everyone Brucey, don't worry. :wink:

FWIW I think he was very modest as well, he had every right to be smug but chose to remain professional instead.

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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:55 am

One can only imagine the horror of your VPL. :D
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:58 am

Exactly, I think he was claiming he tried something and it worked but he's realistic enough to know that next time it might not. Which is true for all substitutions. He shows restraint in his interviews, doesn't get too excited when he wins, likewise doesn't get down when he loses. Coyle looked like a broken man about to burst into tears at times.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:59 am

LeverEnd wrote:Exactly, I think he was claiming he tried something and it worked but he's realistic enough to know that next time it might not. Which is true for all substitutions. He shows restraint in his interviews, doesn't get too excited when he wins, likewise doesn't get down when he loses. Coyle looked like a broken man about to burst into tears at times.
If it were me I'd be slating them after some of the performances, and taking the p!ss out of Eagles' hair.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Enoch » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:44 pm

'Doogie, You're paid to make big decisions'

Not really his words were they?

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'Give us a little bit more up top, in terms of over the top'.

They were his words, no mention of two up top there!

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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:51 pm

Dunno why it's so important to get his exact words down like but...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21413797" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"In this game you've got to make brave decisions. Sometimes it goes against you, but I'll never shy away from that," he told BBC Radio Manchester.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by Enoch » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:00 pm

To me, it seems that when someone misquotes, or attributes something that wasn't said to someone, it's reasonable to challenge that assertion.
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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:01 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:Dunno why it's so important to get his exact words down like but...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21413797" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"In this game you've got to make brave decisions. Sometimes it goes against you, but I'll never shy away from that," he told BBC Radio Manchester.
Yep, and in that there is absolutely no suggestion he is claiming to be a tactical genius at all. Quite the opposite in fact, stating that as a manager you make a decision and it can just as easily not work as work.

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Re: The six fingered Clarets

Post by BL3 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:08 pm

It would have been 'braver' to have made the decision at 0-0. I'm not sure it was particularly brave to bring on a couple of strikers when we were chasing the game. He didn't really have much choice at that point. Ultimately though it doesn't matter whether he's a tactical genius or just plain lucky, as long as he gets the right result.

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