The ianevattable sacking

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When does Evatt go?

Now, international break and time to save the season.
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Give him 10 more games, least he deserves.
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He’ll turn this around.
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After Duff dies him again - Hudds at home.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by The_Gun » Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:20 pm

I like Sharon, and hugely respect what she’s done for our club, but she’s backed the wrong horse here.

It’s a shame that we’re seemingly going to miss out on the top coaches who are currently out of work because our Chair is too loyal for her (our) own good.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:58 pm

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Bloke does too much talking and not enough achieving to back it up.
Marc Iles is jumping to his defence, saying the question asked was can he remove the emotion and focus on the football. Also claims the start of the answer is missed.

Maybe this rhetoric control is part of the problem. No difficult questions, I think Jack Deardens' wad the first we've heard that went against the stream.
I can completely believe the question was missed off, or the quote taken out of context.

Iles has posted the full press conference at https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... ombe-trip/ and before that quote, Evatt was talking about how he's had a journey that helps him cope with pressure; after it, he says how the players back him.

The quote itself - in or out of context - is "It is great that I've got the backing of the people that matter, their support has been unwavering." Because of its inferences, that would be an unwise sentence construction at the best of times. These are not the best of times.

But so often across his career here he's said things which have blown up - tellin' Crellin to "Man up", saying we're the best team in the league, and so on. Either he went in to those press conferences knowing what he was going to say, and got it wrong, or he makes it up as he goes along, and gets it wrong.

For the record, Iles is far from an apologist. He has also tweeted "If I were him, I'd dial back talk of win percentage, etc, but to each their own. He knows what is expected this season."

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:36 pm

I've wanted him gone, a while. But I struggle to take much from that. I could. For sure. But it feels a bit WITCH!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:55 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
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I've wanted him gone, a while. But I struggle to take much from that. I could. For sure. But it feels a bit WITCH!
I don’t think it’s the worst quote ever. But to me it also strongly suggests he isn’t learning and still has no humility.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:25 am

He clearly thinks 'the most important people' are the board and not the fans. On the surface that might be true as they decide who keeps their job. Realistically it is the fans, as ultimately market forces dictate business decisions. The only question is how long the board are prepared to resist those market forces when attendances drop in their thousands and the atmosphere deteriorates?

Evatt has a habit of digging holes and not knowing when to stop. The wisest thing for him now is to keep shut and fix the mess we're seeing on match days.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:36 am

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He clearly thinks 'the most important people' are the board and not the fans.
Let's hope tonight is about the players more than either . Winning or losing s about them end of day. :oyea:
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:22 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:25 am
He clearly thinks 'the most important people' are the board and not the fans. On the surface that might be true as they decide who keeps their job. Realistically it is the fans, as ultimately market forces dictate business decisions. The only question is how long the board are prepared to resist those market forces when attendances drop in their thousands and the atmosphere deteriorates?

Evatt has a habit of digging holes and not knowing when to stop. The wisest thing for him now is to keep shut and fix the mess we're seeing on match days.
I don't think he means the whole fan base as a collective, more those that are critical and want him out. I admit that number is probably increasing everyday.

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:26 pm

DJBlu wrote:
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I don't think he means the whole fan base as a collective, more those that are critical and want him out. I admit that number is probably increasing everyday.
That number currently being about 85-90% of the fanbase.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:29 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:26 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:22 pm
I don't think he means the whole fan base as a collective, more those that are critical and want him out. I admit that number is probably increasing everyday.
That number currently being about 85-90% of the fanbase.
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I don't know the actual number but I would say it's quite high. I really do think he's the litmus for how far a manager can push it until he's shown the door.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by boltonboris » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:58 pm

He's just a bit of a prick isn't he. Even when things are going well he's a bit of a prick. I don't think he does it on purpose to deliberately piss certain people off. He's just...... A bit of a prick
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:25 am

He’s fallen out with the BBC - not happy with how his quote was presented.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:22 am

officer_dibble wrote:
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He’s fallen out with the BBC - not happy with how his quote was presented.
I didn’t watch or follow the game last night but again this pops up. I don’t understand. I knew the quote that was clipped was in reference to a question about the board and ownership backing but he still said ‘the people who matter’ to describe the board. I don’t really get how that is a ‘misquote’. Clearly he meant that the owners who back him matter and the fans that don’t do not. There is no way of twisting that.

I get that he can say ‘ok the owners matter as they can sack me ‘ - I get it but still it was a poor poor turn of phrase in the circumstances.

And now in classic Evatt style he’s gone on a rant about the BBC which plays beautifully into far right idiots on social media no doubt. And of course was clearly designed for that very reason. He could have quietly pointed it out. Or had a word behind the scenes if he felt wronged (which he wasn’t btw).

What I simply cannot understand and never will is why Sharon who seems the polar opposite in character and belief to Evatt has hitched her horse to his wagon so firmly? Are they both religious? What’s the common link?

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:37 am

It was a poor phrase made worse by the BBC.

Everyone has the right to a defence and he's made his case.

I think you would've enjoyed last night's game btw. Not under the cosh as we were vs Newcastle but that was an Insane loving defensive display.

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Post by dave the minion » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:40 am

I agree. He is prone to shoot his mouth off - and always has been - but nothing wrong at all with defending himself and correcting it when he thinks he's been taken out of context.

Trouble is, he damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - he comes out with this and gets shot down for doing it, but if he leaves out of context quotes out there in the ether he's lambasted for them instead....

Despite what people think, I'm no IE lover. I do think he should be given more of a chance to turn this round, but the witch hunt against him is becoming ridiculous. Social media is awash with people lambasting his team choice and the result last night, despite the fact those same people were predicting a 5-0 spanking minutes before kick-off!!!

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:40 am

Aye. Whilst we couldn't pass for toffee, it was a better watch than usual. We had a go, even if it weren't good and we were resolute in trying not to concede. You'd have been proud Insano :D

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:43 am

dave the minion wrote:
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Social media is awash with people lambasting his team choice and the result last night, despite the fact those same people were predicting a 5-0 spanking minutes before kick-off!!!
I thought last night was fine. We weren't great, but you have matches like that and we made sure we weren't conceding. You can build on that. More of that defensive desire and lets start to pass the ball to each other will go a long way to the improvement needed.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:56 am

I didn't watch the game so I've no idea how we played, but it was a good result / point. I also still want Evatt out as I really don't like the way we have played this past 12 months and his tactics - however I was quite impressed with Evatt's post match interview with Jack Dearden defending his 'people that matter' quote saying that his words where taken out of context by the BBC, he shouldn't be knocked for this.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:24 pm

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I agree. He is prone to shoot his mouth off - and always has been - but nothing wrong at all with defending himself and correcting it when he thinks he's been taken out of context.

Trouble is, he damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - he comes out with this and gets shot down for doing it, but if he leaves out of context quotes out there in the ether he's lambasted for them instead....

Despite what people think, I'm no IE lover. I do think he should be given more of a chance to turn this round, but the witch hunt against him is becoming ridiculous. Social media is awash with people lambasting his team choice and the result last night, despite the fact those same people were predicting a 5-0 spanking minutes before kick-off!!!
You weren't so generous the year Parky took us up.

"Parkinson is a poor, clueless average manager I expected a defeat today, but the team is toothless they don't even compete - Parkinson is so over rated its unbelievable, he's no different to any of the previous wanker managers we've had, there is ..."

On that sort of basis, Evatt should have gone a season and a half back.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by dave the minion » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:46 pm

Fair point. Very well made !!!

Maybe I've mellowed and matured as I've aged (like a fine wine?).

If you asked me now I'd have straight I liked Parky, but maybe not!!!!

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:59 pm

dave the minion wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:46 pm
Fair point. Very well made !!!

Maybe I've mellowed and matured as I've aged (like a fine wine?).

If you asked me now I'd have straight I liked Parky, but maybe not!!!!
No worries, mate. :-) just making the point that if we used a similar yardstick, then I think most folks would probably now think IE has had enough chance(s).

Could he turn it round? Not impossible. Could we go up via Play-offs? Also not impossible. But you'd sort of expect with the investment he's had, to be in that play-off group...

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