Do we need to worry?

[cecil.bob]

He could quite easily go to Liverpool. Couldn't blame him if he did, so BWFCi has a point.

But I can't see them jumping out of the frying pan in to the fire. They've already done the " small club manager doiing well". I'm guessing a big name this time out, and I'm praying its Benitez.

The new owner while no experience at football is no fool. I very much doubt he would agree to Benitez. Mind you my prayers are with you as well even though I feel Little Sam deserves a shot.

I'd love to see that one.

[thebish]

Let's face it, BWFCi clearly has a point. Rumours suggest Liverpool are interested, and he'd be daft not to be tempted if the job were offered him - huge potential and loads of money, with more recent success than the Wanderers.

all this feverish katzenjammer is out of character Puskas!

[truewhite15]

Let's face it, BWFCi clearly has a point. Rumours suggest Liverpool are interested, and he'd be daft not to be tempted if the job were offered him - huge potential and loads of money, with more recent success than the Wanderers. However, I suspect that when/if Hodgson is sacked, Liverpool will turn to either Rijkaard or Deschamps - bigger names and more top level experience than Coyle. And so what if they've ruled themselves out - don't all managers do that when the position is occupied? It's only polite...

Anyway, if he does go, his replacement is easy. Another Wanderers legend, his former strike partner, currently doing rather well at Kilmarnock....

Yay, someone else we've got a ready-made chant for!!

[Prufrock]

Of course he'd fecking go! Just hope he isn't given the chance. Bit too soon perchance. It's Spurs in 2012 he's off.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Can't see Coyle going to Liverpool at present. Seems more likely Liverpool owners would consider putting Dalgleish in charge(keep the fans happy) till the summer and scouting out their next manager very carefully. I don't think they'd take a chance on Coyle's inexperience. It's a massive call for them.
Remember when Coyle came here he could already have gone to celtic. He has a career plan of proving himself and working his way up. It's an intelligent approach.Better to gradually build your skills and reputation than jump into a cauldron of false expectations and potentially ruin that reputation.A team of Villa's size would however fit perfectly into that career path. I'm hoping it's too early for him but I can see that being a temptation should it arise now.
West ham, if they have any sense at all should be faxing fat Sam. He would keep them up but they wouldn't be able to continue to jerk themselves off over their wonderful tradition of beautiful ineffectuality.Tough call but david Gold has no fear of taking on nuts and bolts managers.

[officer_dibble]

MEh

I'm not gonna get all Burnley about this

He's a good manager, he's at a good team at the moment (7th best in the country)

He probably wants to manage someone bigger, if he earns it and doesn't leave us in the shit he goes with my blessing. And by in the shit I mean with a squad consisting 16 left backs 4 centre forwards and danny shittu.

He won't be here forever, but I do think Liverpool will want someone more 'proven' after having their fingers burnt with Woy. They need a 'name' to manage the 'names'. Torres for instance clearly can't stand Hodgson.

[FaninOz]

He could quite easily go to Liverpool. Couldn't blame him if he did, so BWFCi has a point.

But I can't see them jumping out of the frying pan in to the fire. They've already done the " small club manager doiing well". I'm guessing a big name this time out, and I'm praying its Benitez.

he could..

but.. 1. he won't be on the list (as you also point out)
and.. 2. he wouldn't go if he was (I can't see how he would gain from it)
so - no - BWFCi hasn't got a point!

Isn't that what Burnley supporters said of Coyle

I'm not really bothered what Burnley fans said at the time - I reckon Coyle could see the writing on the wall at Burnley - that given the amount of investment promised had taken them as far as he could - and from there - the only way was down - his star was high - but it wasn't going any higher...

with Bolton - I don't imagine for a moment he thinks he has taken us as far as we can go... with us, his star can still ascend... moving to liverpool would be a huge risk for him... failure to finish in the top 4 is seen as massive failure there... and with the emergence of citeh and spurs - there are 5 in serious contention for those places already...

Only time will tell if that isn't also true of his Bolton stay, the small squad have started to fail to perform (will that continue especially if we lose to York!).... where is the investment that he may have been promised when he came to Bolton? .... his star is very high and even if he keeps us in the top 7 the star will surely not get any higher.

There are always two sides to a position, but I agree that he would be foolish to go to Liverpool now as their chances of getting back into the top four are very low in my opinion, but then I'm not a football manager who believes that he can work miracles no matter where he works. Even you know who would believe that he could be successful at Liverpool.

[Prufrock]

Well. He came to Bolton and had our team 18th and took them top six. Theirs is better. He'd be insane not to take it. I don't think he'll get offered it, but Gerrard and Torres, with his people skills.....

[Lord Kangana]

Gerard and Torres are not enough compared to the top five. Without them they are essentially us. We are not top 4. They would crucify him (like Roy) if he didn't achieve it. They won't, with or without him.

In short, they aren't good enough. Even Mourinho would struggle there, just their fans can't see it.

[Prufrock]

Gerard and Torres are not enough compared to the top five. Without them they are essentially us. We are not top 4. They would crucify him (like Roy) if he didn't achieve it. They won't, with or without him.

In short, they aren't good enough. Even Mourinho would struggle there, just their fans can't see it.

Their team i-xi is better than ours. Like, in fact, many in this division are. If he can do it with us....

I'm absolutely convinced, if offered it, he would both go there, and, do a terrific job. I don't think he'll be offered it. More fool them.

[Lord Kangana]

Not having that. They are in the position they are in because they have signed a poor quality of player. A couple aside. They are more our level than Spurs and above.

[Prufrock]

Not having that. They are in the position they are in because they have signed a poor quality of player. A couple aside. They are more our level than Spurs and above.

With respect I think that's what Burnley fans said. We sat there, and, rightly, said, we have better players, better infrastructure, and a better reputation. They can say the same thing. Imagine the boost he gave Elmander, given to Torres. Glen Johnson was at one point viewed as the best RB in the country. Steven Gerrard still is IMO the best CM in the country. Torres ability wise is neck and neck with Drogba and Rooney. He might not have them title winning but he'd have them fighting. It's what he does, getting the best of people. Anyone who thinks, given the oppurtunity he wouldn't take it, nor be right to take it, is dreaming.

[Lord Kangana]

And I'll repeat, yes Torres and Gerrard are up there. But the rest of the squad isn't. Nowhere near. And thats their major problem. A bit like when Holden is missing for us, if those two don't perform, they as a team don't. 6th is the absolute best that squad could achieve. Very much, in fact, like us. Because everyone above 6th has more than two outstanding players.

[Prufrock]

And I'll repeat, yes Torres and Gerrard are up there. But the rest of the squad isn't. Nowhere near. And thats their major problem. A bit like when Holden is missing for us, if those two don't perform, they as a team don't. 6th is the absolute best that squad could achieve. Very much, in fact, like us. Because everyone above 6th has more than two outstanding players.

It's two players short of the team that finished 2nd. And IMO Meireles is better than Mascherano. Gerrard, Torres, Reina Agger Kuyt. You can say their team wouldn't finish top 6, but somebody impartial would have looked at our team under 'him' and said it wouldnt finish top 15. That's before their stadium, history and supposed new money come in. Despite being 'fooked' they'll outspend us this Jan.

[Lord Kangana]

They could finish top 6.

They'll never finish top five with the squad they've got, even with God, Moses, and every character from the new and old testaments thrown in, without serious investment. Money which I doubt they've got anymore.

Liverpool. Living off past glories for far too long now.

[FaninOz]

They could finish top 6.

They'll never finish top five with the squad they've got, even with God, Moses, and every character from the new and old testaments thrown in, without serious investment. Money which I doubt they've got anymore.

Liverpool. Living off past glories for far too long now.

I agree with that but I guess any manager would prefer to be regularly fighting for top 4, even if they finished 6th, every season than fighting to stay in mid table.

No matter how poor Liverpool are they will always have more money than us and hence have better players hence for any manager will always be a better prospect than Bolton, take that with a massive new stadium (evenually) and fanatical supporters world wide and I'd be very surprised if Coyle didn't jump at the chance if offered.

The only down side is the unrealistic expectations of those fans who would not be satified with 5 or 6th each year and that is the only down side as far as I can see. But his self belief will ensure that he ignores that little problem if offered the job.

[thebish]

They could finish top 6.

They'll never finish top five with the squad they've got, even with God, Moses, and every character from the new and old testaments thrown in, without serious investment. Money which I doubt they've got anymore.

Liverpool. Living off past glories for far too long now.

I agree with that but I guess any manager would prefer to be regularly fighting for top 4, even if they finished 6th, every season than fighting to stay in mid table.

I'm not so sure. (really!)

going to liverpool - knowing that they are a spent force and that the insanely high expectations of their fans (and perhaps owners) will not be satisfied - and that pretty soon they will be baying for your head

vs..

a couple more years at Bolton doing what you know you CAN achieve - building them back into a solid top-of-the-table side with much less pressure and biding your time while your reputation is enhanced and wait for summat more attractive to come up...

I'm not at all sure it's such a no-brainer as some of you seem to imagine....

[seanworth]

There are many reasons why not to take the job if offered. Still managing Liverpool is a dream job for most managers and an opportunity that is likely only to come around once. You must jump at the opportunity when it comes up. Next season he might not be the hot manager. Big Sam at one point seemed destined by many, especially himself, to move on to managing a big club. Now that opportunity seems to have passed him by.

I hope that Liverpool decide to bring Dalglish til the end of the season at which they can make the long term decisions for the club. They should not be swayed by any threats by Stevie Me or Torres. If they want to go get rid of now. The club right now is a mess and I hope they don't decide to make a mess of ours to boot.

[FaninOz]

There are many reasons why not to take the job if offered. Still managing Liverpool is a dream job for most managers and an opportunity that is likely only to come around once. You must jump at the opportunity when it comes up. Next season he might not be the hot manager. Big Sam at one point seemed destined by many, especially himself, to move on to managing a big club. Now that opportunity seems to have passed him by.

I hope that Liverpool decide to bring Dalglish til the end of the season at which they can make the long term decisions for the club. They should not be swayed by any threats by Stevie Me or Torres. If they want to go get rid of now. The club right now is a mess and I hope they don't decide to make a mess of ours to boot.

Hodgson OUT Dalglish in until end of season

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Worry over for now!!

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Worry over for now?

I'd say the fact that Woy is now officially no longer manager should be the START of the worrying, if there is indeed any reason to do so !