Didn't we once try to sign him?
Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em
-
- Passionate
- Posts: 2681
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:21 am
- Location: On the hunt for Zat Knight's spinal cord
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Boutros Boutros Ghali
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
CAPSLOCK wrote:Do you think you're Allardyce?jaffka wrote:You could just post any old sh*te really, so here we go
Tom Finney
Stanley Matthews
Bobby Charlton

Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Interesting article about Bolton's attempts to sign Duncan Edwards. Him and Nat in the same team would have been interesting.
During his three seasons as an England Schoolboy International, he had accumulated nine caps, which was a record for an England Schoolboy. He was also the first Dudley schoolboy to win International recognition in more than forty years. Naturally, he was under the spotlight of all the leading clubs, and of course he did live on the doorstep of such famous named clubs as Aston Villa, Birmingham City, West Bromwich Albion, and Wolverhampton Wanderers. Two other clubs, both Lancashire rivals, were also alerted this youngster who potentially was going to be even better than John Charles. They were Bolton Wanderers and Manchester United.
Perhaps the local Midland clubs felt that Duncan was bound to choose one of them, but the Lancashire sides took nothing for granted and made strenuous efforts to sign him. Bolton Wanderers were in fact the first to be alerted to him. The year before they had signed Duncan's schoolboy International Captain, Ray Parry.
Another reason for Bolton's confidence at this time in their pursuit of Duncan Edwards, was the fact they had Duncan's Second Cousin, and former Dudley Schoolboys team mate, Dennis Stevens in their line-up. Looking back, Dennis recalls 'From what I gathered, Bolton were very, very confident about signing Duncan, and naturally, being part of the family, and knowing what a player he was going to develop into, I was quite looking forward to him joining me at Bolton. At least he would have had someone he knew at the Club.'
The account of Frank Pickford, Bolton's Chief Scout for so many years, of how Duncan ended up at Old Trafford and not Burnden Park, is still vivid in his mind, even today. He well remembers Bolton's attempts to bring Duncan to Burnden Park.
'Duncan Edwards was the boy who had the lot,' began Frank. 'From the first sighting, George Taylor (who was Bolton's Chief Coach at that time) and myself both realised what a grand player he was going to become. We saw him in a trial match at Dudley Port, but missed him after the game, so off we went to the local police station to find out the lad's address. 'Thirty Four, Elm Road, Priory Estate, Dudley' we were told, and I'll never ever forget it.'
Frank's voice trailed away at the memory of the finest talent that he had ever come across. A talent he was so sure was destined for Burnden Park, Bolton. But, after a short pause, Frank continued 'I didn't honestly believe for a minute that any other Club would get him. I got on well with his Father and Mother, and in fact his dad and I often enjoyed a couple of pints together in the Royal Oak pub opposite their house.'
'Duncan even came up to Bolton on one occasion to have a look around, but while we waited, Manchester United must have got the nod about the lad. When Matt Busby went for him, he must have sold himself well. At the end, I couldn't get down to Dudley on this particular Sunday, as I was over in Belfast looking at another young player, so Matt and Jimmy Murphy got that illusive signature of Duncan's.'
Having lost out to Manchester United, Frank Pickford and Duncan Edwards next met up at a Lancashire F.A. Youth trial at Leyland Motors ground a couple of months later. 'I was crossing the car park, and Duncan came over to me and said, 'sorry Frank, it just wasn't to be'. I wished him well, but have regretted losing his signature ever since.'
Aware of the continued interest of Bolton Wanderers, even though Duncan had told Matt Busby that he only wanted to join Manchester United, a careful eye was kept on the situation, with Chief Scout Joe Armstrong, Coach Bert Whalley, Jimmy Murphy, and Reg Priest, all watching Duncan at every opportunity.
One afternoon, however, things began to hot up, and it looked as if Bolton were going to make one final attempt to snatch Duncan from under the eyes of their Lancashire neighbours and rivals. Hearing of this move, Reg Priest got on the telephone to Old Trafford right away, and told them to get somebody down to Dudley right away.
During his three seasons as an England Schoolboy International, he had accumulated nine caps, which was a record for an England Schoolboy. He was also the first Dudley schoolboy to win International recognition in more than forty years. Naturally, he was under the spotlight of all the leading clubs, and of course he did live on the doorstep of such famous named clubs as Aston Villa, Birmingham City, West Bromwich Albion, and Wolverhampton Wanderers. Two other clubs, both Lancashire rivals, were also alerted this youngster who potentially was going to be even better than John Charles. They were Bolton Wanderers and Manchester United.
Perhaps the local Midland clubs felt that Duncan was bound to choose one of them, but the Lancashire sides took nothing for granted and made strenuous efforts to sign him. Bolton Wanderers were in fact the first to be alerted to him. The year before they had signed Duncan's schoolboy International Captain, Ray Parry.
Another reason for Bolton's confidence at this time in their pursuit of Duncan Edwards, was the fact they had Duncan's Second Cousin, and former Dudley Schoolboys team mate, Dennis Stevens in their line-up. Looking back, Dennis recalls 'From what I gathered, Bolton were very, very confident about signing Duncan, and naturally, being part of the family, and knowing what a player he was going to develop into, I was quite looking forward to him joining me at Bolton. At least he would have had someone he knew at the Club.'
The account of Frank Pickford, Bolton's Chief Scout for so many years, of how Duncan ended up at Old Trafford and not Burnden Park, is still vivid in his mind, even today. He well remembers Bolton's attempts to bring Duncan to Burnden Park.
'Duncan Edwards was the boy who had the lot,' began Frank. 'From the first sighting, George Taylor (who was Bolton's Chief Coach at that time) and myself both realised what a grand player he was going to become. We saw him in a trial match at Dudley Port, but missed him after the game, so off we went to the local police station to find out the lad's address. 'Thirty Four, Elm Road, Priory Estate, Dudley' we were told, and I'll never ever forget it.'
Frank's voice trailed away at the memory of the finest talent that he had ever come across. A talent he was so sure was destined for Burnden Park, Bolton. But, after a short pause, Frank continued 'I didn't honestly believe for a minute that any other Club would get him. I got on well with his Father and Mother, and in fact his dad and I often enjoyed a couple of pints together in the Royal Oak pub opposite their house.'
'Duncan even came up to Bolton on one occasion to have a look around, but while we waited, Manchester United must have got the nod about the lad. When Matt Busby went for him, he must have sold himself well. At the end, I couldn't get down to Dudley on this particular Sunday, as I was over in Belfast looking at another young player, so Matt and Jimmy Murphy got that illusive signature of Duncan's.'
Having lost out to Manchester United, Frank Pickford and Duncan Edwards next met up at a Lancashire F.A. Youth trial at Leyland Motors ground a couple of months later. 'I was crossing the car park, and Duncan came over to me and said, 'sorry Frank, it just wasn't to be'. I wished him well, but have regretted losing his signature ever since.'
Aware of the continued interest of Bolton Wanderers, even though Duncan had told Matt Busby that he only wanted to join Manchester United, a careful eye was kept on the situation, with Chief Scout Joe Armstrong, Coach Bert Whalley, Jimmy Murphy, and Reg Priest, all watching Duncan at every opportunity.
One afternoon, however, things began to hot up, and it looked as if Bolton were going to make one final attempt to snatch Duncan from under the eyes of their Lancashire neighbours and rivals. Hearing of this move, Reg Priest got on the telephone to Old Trafford right away, and told them to get somebody down to Dudley right away.
-
- Reliable
- Posts: 973
- Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:22 pm
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Ferrie Bodde
Was sick of seeing that bastard name in every transfer window under Megson.
Was sick of seeing that bastard name in every transfer window under Megson.
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Rivald..............oh 

- Harry Genshaw
- Legend
- Posts: 9410
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:47 pm
- Location: Half dead in Panama
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Bernie Slaven was the 2nd bloke to turn us down for the 'bigger club' Port Vale. Ron Futcher did the same a few years earlier.
Peter Zelem
Alan Ainscow
& that centre half Laursen (I forget his 1st name). Refused to join us as we were a lower Premier team and then opted for Villa instead
Martin Pike didn't join us due to Phil neal refusing to break the wage structure at the club.
Peter Zelem
Alan Ainscow
& that centre half Laursen (I forget his 1st name). Refused to join us as we were a lower Premier team and then opted for Villa instead

Martin Pike didn't join us due to Phil neal refusing to break the wage structure at the club.
"Get your feet off the furniture you Oxbridge tw*t. You're not on a feckin punt now you know"
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 19597
- Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:49 am
- Location: N Wales, but close enough to Chester I can pretend I'm in England
- Contact:
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Neville Southall
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
- Bruce Rioja
- Immortal
- Posts: 38742
- Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
- Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Little Green Man wrote:Artim SakiriBruce Rioja wrote:No, Chief - norrim. He scored against England when we played them. Baldy head. (ah, yes, he may be Macedonian rather than Moldovan)mrkint wrote:Zoltan Gera? He's Macedonian, I believe. Unless we're talking about different people ofcBruce Rioja wrote:That Moldovan that couldn't get a work permit but ended up at West Brom.
Wilfred Zaha (imaginative, yes)

Cheers, LGM.
May the bridges I burn light your way
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 19597
- Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:49 am
- Location: N Wales, but close enough to Chester I can pretend I'm in England
- Contact:
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Who was the Turkish guy we took on pre-season trial, were v impressed but we couldn't strike a deal with his club ?
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Remember Allardyce being very keen on Sylvain Distin, who was a crock for a couple of years after joining Newcastle, but eventually turned into a good top half CB.
Thiago Alcantera was depressingly close apparently!
Thiago Alcantera was depressingly close apparently!
http://www.twitter.com/dan_athers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Dave Sutton's barnet
- Immortal
- Posts: 31722
- Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 4:00 pm
- Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation
- Contact:
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
As reported by our old friend... and yes, in a later interview he named Distin as the player he most regretted missing out on.Athers wrote:Remember Allardyce being very keen on Sylvain Distin, who was a crock for a couple of years after joining Newcastle, but eventually turned into a good top half CB.
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 14516
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
So his Eto'o story was bullshit then, if he's more gutted about Distin.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:As reported by our old friend... and yes, in a later interview he named Distin as the player he most regretted missing out on.Athers wrote:Remember Allardyce being very keen on Sylvain Distin, who was a crock for a couple of years after joining Newcastle, but eventually turned into a good top half CB.
He's a feckin liar though, so what else would we expect.
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
just for shitstirs , allardyce once attempted to sign jermaine pennant for bolton
:/
:/
- Bruce Rioja
- Immortal
- Posts: 38742
- Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
- Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Johan Cruyff
Oh JORDI Cruyff?! Sorry 


May the bridges I burn light your way
-
- Dedicated
- Posts: 1448
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:57 am
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
In fact it was true, I'm sure PG had a fax in his pocket before it was picked in Tesco Middlebrookwigan white wrote:Didnt invent it myself, although it did come from a former work colleague who was mates with Allardyce's son, so pinch of salt and all that.BWFC_Insane wrote:My word, some people do invent some fanciful ideas.....wigan white wrote:Wasn't Drogba another of Allardyce's so called attempted signings, before he signed for Marseille? Heard rumours that Gartside stopped the deal as he had concerns about Drogba's ability and suitablilty to the Premier league!!!!!!!
Pegguy Luyindala was another one.
The Voice Of Reason
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 19597
- Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:49 am
- Location: N Wales, but close enough to Chester I can pretend I'm in England
- Contact:
Re: Didn't we once try to sign him?
Paul Mariner.
Having been brought up in Horwich, being a Bolton fan and writing unsuccessfully for a trial at Bolton he joined Chorley, went from Chorley to Plymouth & then Bolton decided to put in a bid just as Ipswich signed him.
Having been brought up in Horwich, being a Bolton fan and writing unsuccessfully for a trial at Bolton he joined Chorley, went from Chorley to Plymouth & then Bolton decided to put in a bid just as Ipswich signed him.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], truewhite15 and 34 guests