Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

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Who should be Bolton's next manager?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:01 pm

Steven Schumacher
23
79%
Leam Richardson
0
No votes
Rob Edwards
0
No votes
Ryan Lowe
2
7%
Sam Allardyce
1
3%
Des Buckingham
0
No votes
Neil Harris
0
No votes
Gary O'Neil
1
3%
Dave Challinor
0
No votes
Leighton Baines
0
No votes
Damien Duff
0
No votes
Nigel Clough
0
No votes
Richie Wellens
1
3%
Mark Warburton
0
No votes
Dean Holden
0
No votes
A promising unknown
1
3%
 
Total votes: 29

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:55 pm

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And herein lies the problem. All that clamour for Evatt to go (correctly), and already we're panicking at the prospect of a couple of potential replacements..........

I hope we get someone progressive and proven in, but can we accept that we can't have it all ways. We can't be desperate for Evatt to leave, and then immediately start complaining about the potential replacement (even before he's been identified!!).

Us with a vacancy always had the potential for said vacancy to be filled by an Evans, a Rooney et al. All those that wanted Evatt out so vehemently now have to fully support the replacement, regardless of who it is
After what's gone on with Evatt this season I highly doubt that the board would bring in an unpopular new manager i.e. Evans, Rooney. They will look to bring someone in who the fans like or want and will get behind and ST's sell.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:56 pm

dave the minion wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:43 pm
And herein lies the problem. All that clamour for Evatt to go (correctly), and already we're panicking at the prospect of a couple of potential replacements..........

I hope we get someone progressive and proven in, but can we accept that we can't have it all ways. We can't be desperate for Evatt to leave, and then immediately start complaining about the potential replacement (even before he's been identified!!).

Us with a vacancy always had the potential for said vacancy to be filled by an Evans, a Rooney et al. All those that wanted Evatt out so vehemently now have to fully support the replacement, regardless of who it is
People having preferences on manager is natural. I don’t know who will work well so am pretty open minded, bar Rooney who I’m confident won’t be chosen.

I don’t think the whole ‘oh be careful what you wish for you might get ‘insert worst manager possible’’ as an idea works.

Evatt was and has been a drag on the club for a long while. We have a chance for some fresh ideas and a new approach now. Whoever it is will get backing or most fans same as Evatt did.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:59 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:41 pm
Interesting to hear Iles say the club should have sacked him pre Christmas to give themselves a better chance. Sounds like he feels a sacking has been inevitable a while and they’ve delayed too long. Not often he’s critical.
I don't know if you heard last night's Last Word podcast... he's a bit more honest on that and last night he (Iles) sounded very down indeed (and hinting strongly at the possibility of change).

Obviously he has to maintain a relationship with the manager but he's been getting increasingly honest in his words, both printed and audio.
Haven’t heard it - haven’t listened to them this season as I’ve sort of withdrawn. But might give it a listen now.

It’s rare Iles will criticise the club but this was on radio 5. Jack Dearden has said he worries it was a ‘knee jerk reaction’ suggesting he was more for giving Evatt time and Iles has gone the other route suggesting it was not soon enough.

Opinions eh?

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:00 pm

I'd like someone with EFL experience and a reasonably good record. Lowe my 1st choice
just ahead of Schumacher.
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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:01 pm

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But if they won their game in hand, they'd be one point behind where we're at, with a better GD!.
So he's doing worse than Evatt, who we just sacked?

Glad we agree.
Yes he's doing worse than Evatt, overall. But certainly not defensively.

Agreement is a wonderous thing.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:07 pm

Bond holders meeting cancelled on Friday. Or more accurately not cancelled just Sharon won’t be there as she’s busy trying to find a new manager.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:52 pm

Knowing the chairperson and board, anyone who is cheap

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:15 pm

Hoboh wrote:
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Knowing the chairperson and board, anyone who is cheap

Nah, I don't think that's fair. They've not been shy in their financial backing.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:17 pm

nicholaldo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:15 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:52 pm
Knowing the chairperson and board, anyone who is cheap

Nah, I don't think that's fair. They've not been shy in their financial backing.
Was going to say - they’ve spent a lot of money. Too much one might argue - given the outcomes.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:18 pm

It's being suggested that Evatt offered to resign earlier in the season and was asked to stay.

Would certainly put a very different spin on all this, were it true.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:21 pm

I got wind that, shall we say, discussions about various things between certain people had become 'difficult'.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:21 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:59 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:55 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:41 pm
Interesting to hear Iles say the club should have sacked him pre Christmas to give themselves a better chance. Sounds like he feels a sacking has been inevitable a while and they’ve delayed too long. Not often he’s critical.
I don't know if you heard last night's Last Word podcast... he's a bit more honest on that and last night he (Iles) sounded very down indeed (and hinting strongly at the possibility of change).

Obviously he has to maintain a relationship with the manager but he's been getting increasingly honest in his words, both printed and audio.
Haven’t heard it - haven’t listened to them this season as I’ve sort of withdrawn. But might give it a listen now.

It’s rare Iles will criticise the club but this was on radio 5. Jack Dearden has said he worries it was a ‘knee jerk reaction’ suggesting he was more for giving Evatt time and Iles has gone the other route suggesting it was not soon enough.

Opinions eh?

I think Dearden might've meant it was a knee-jerk decision in the sense that the board had allowed Evatt to conduct transfer dealings this month, therefore seemingly backing him on a longer-term basis, then having to effect go back on that rather quickly as events unfolded.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:24 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:18 pm
It's being suggested that Evatt offered to resign earlier in the season and was asked to stay.

Would certainly put a very different spin on all this, were it true.
It certainly wouldn’t help allay fears about the board’s judgement. However there are very different forms of offering a resignation.

There is a ‘I want out please accept my resignation’ vs ‘I’m not doing very well if you want me to I will resign’ or a ‘unless you do x,y and z I will resign’.

If he offered a genuine written resignation and was refused - I’d find it hard to believe and also wonder what on earth was happening. I still suspect it was a slightly different scenario.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by TonyDomingos » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:01 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:21 pm
I got wind that, shall we say, discussions about various things between certain people had become 'difficult'.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:06 pm

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Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:01 pm
How come you know my wife? :D
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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:07 pm

Keith Hill says we should go for Dyche. Hmmmm. Be absolutely brilliant but why would he drop to league one?

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:14 pm

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by TonyDomingos » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:20 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:06 pm
TonyDomingos wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:01 pm
How come you know my wife? :D
We all know your wife.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:30 pm

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:38 pm

I think it's quite likely we'll go for a Mat Sadler/Lee Bell/Bryan Barry-Murphy kind of appointment.

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