Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

[jaffka]

Does he actually read what he types?

[Cocopopper]

Sordell may be another matter. He's not going to get a salary similar to the one we gave him and I think his mentality may be to hang on. I guess another Southern based loan, part funded by us. Though I do thonk Pearce's belief in him is the possible career saver for him.

Aye, that, and the occasional hat-trick here and there...

Shop window syndrome?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Does he actually read what he types?

I assume this is a rhetorical question, rendering this reply obsolete?

[BWFC_Insane]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

[SmokinFrazier]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

Employing the right manager made it happen. Dyche has had 82 games and got Burnley promoted, Freedman has had 85 games with a better squad and has only taken us backwards.

[Bruce Rioja]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

Four. We've had two and came down with far better players than Burnley's bugger's muddle. The clock's ticking.

[William the White]

BWFCi will continue his rearguard action in favour of Dougie. He did welcome him like a swooning virgin, afyter all, and isn't prepared to let that delicious moment go - despite finding himself snogging a frog.

[BWFC_Insane]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

Four. We've had two and came down with far better players than Burnley's bugger's muddle. The clock's ticking.

How many seasons have Burnley been in the top flight in the last two decades?

If it's all about right appointments why have Burnley, for example only just gone up now? Why not immediately on relegation? And why not in the decade before?

Our players we came down with, patently weren't good enough weren't brave enough and weren't the right mix to tackle this league.

We've only been able to do limited amounts to correct that and I fear this will continue.

[BWFC_Insane]

BWFCi will continue his rearguard action in favour of Dougie. He did welcome him like a swooning virgin, afyter all, and isn't prepared to let that delicious moment go - despite finding himself snogging a frog.

Rearguard action? I'm not in no war. I am simply stating my opinion on what the club needs and my concern that it won't happen.

Your post expresses a very odd way of looking at things.

[Bruce Rioja]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

Four. We've had two and came down with far better players than Burnley's bugger's muddle. The clock's ticking.

How many seasons have Burnley been in the top flight in the last two decades?

If it's all about right appointments why have Burnley, for example only just gone up now? Why not immediately on relegation? And why not in the decade before?

Our players we came down with, patently weren't good enough weren't brave enough and weren't the right mix to tackle this league.

We've only been able to do limited amounts to correct that and I fear this will continue.

Oh, hang on, so your question has gone from the perfectly relevant "how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level," to "how many seasons have Burnley spent in the top flight?". Which one do want answering? The fact that they only spent one season in the top flight further strengthens the point that they came down with poorer players.

The rest of your post is just absolute waffle that makes no point nor asks any pertinent questions.

Now then, you asked - "how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level,"

The answer to your question is Four. We've had two and, whether you like it or not we came down with better players than Burnley did. This is quite simply proven by the very fact that we came down with the cream of their crop as well as a bunch of experienced premier league players and internationals.

Now you can harp back to the times of Leighton James and Peter Noble if you like, but altering your question because you didn't like the correct answer just makes you look a bit silly.

[Mar]

Moritz out injured. More than likely the last we've seen of him which I would say is a bit of a shame. His role would be ideal as a off the bench impact sub but he probably sees himself as more than that.

[BWFC_Insane]

It's really quite simple. If we want to go up we need to build a team with the right quality to go up. If we can't then we are looking for a miracle.

And before the 'look at Burnley' brigade chime in, how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level, waiting for said magic blend and miracle on a relatively low budget.

They've not just clicked their fingers and made it happen.

Four. We've had two and came down with far better players than Burnley's bugger's muddle. The clock's ticking.

How many seasons have Burnley been in the top flight in the last two decades?

If it's all about right appointments why have Burnley, for example only just gone up now? Why not immediately on relegation? And why not in the decade before?

Our players we came down with, patently weren't good enough weren't brave enough and weren't the right mix to tackle this league.

We've only been able to do limited amounts to correct that and I fear this will continue.

Oh, hang on, so your question has gone from the perfectly relevant "how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level," to "how many seasons have Burnley spent in the top flight?". Which one do want answering? The fact that they only spent one season in the top flight further strengthens the point that they came down with poorer players.

The rest of your post is just absolute waffle that makes no point nor asks any pertinent questions.

Now then, you asked - "how many seasons have Burnley spent at this level,"

The answer to your question is Four. We've had two and, whether you like it or not we came down with better players than Burnley did. This is quite simply proven by the very fact that we came down with the cream of their crop as well as a bunch of experienced premier league players and internationals.

Now you can harp back to the times of Leighton James and Peter Noble if you like, but altering your question because you didn't like the correct answer just makes you look a bit silly.

It is very relevant. My point is that Burnley have run themselves without running up huge debt, run within their means.

The result of that is one season of top flight football and a promotion in a decade and more.

As we are seemingly planning on running ourselves within broadly similar parameters, the reality is that we might need to adjust our expectations accordingly.

[Worthy4England]

We probably need to adjust our Managers' accordingly, too.

[jaffka]

Changing the manager is certainly cheaper than keeping a manager who cannot work with what he has got.

[BWFC_Insane]

We probably need to adjust our Managers' accordingly, too.

We might. But I'm far from convinced a managerial change will produce the magical result everyone seems to think it will.

I look at a lot of relegated sides who never came back, and many of them changed managers several times in very similar situations to ours and never got back. The odds are definitely way worse than many on here make out.

[Worthy4England]

Yup, there's little in the way of guarantees.

None of which necessarily the current incumbent right, either.

[Andy Waller]

I just read that it's looking unlikely that we'd have enough money to sign the Duke. We really are up the creek.

[thebish]

for my money, next season, Dougie has to prove that he can make a decent fist of a proper challenge for a play-off place with whatever hand he is dealt... I think I can remember him saying enough times that he knows what he came in to do and he knew what he was coming into and that he had a long-term plan and that he knows the realities of this division and the financial climate we are in... given that he knows that, he has to show us that he really IS the manager who can take a load of chump-change and bargains and loans and whatever is left in the changing room after whatever clearout we have and combine them with the yoof and whatever Eddie will let him buy - and build and motivate a team to be reckoned with. If he can't - then he should stand aside for someone who can...

as it happens - I think he can... (but then I am optimistic at the start of every season...)

[bwfcdan94]

We probably need to adjust our Managers' accordingly, too.

We might. But I'm far from convinced a managerial change will produce the magical result everyone seems to think it will.

I look at a lot of relegated sides who never came back, and many of them changed managers several times in very similar situations to ours and never got back. The odds are definitely way worse than many on here make out.

I think it is quite likely that managerial change in the next 12 months will see us relegated. IMHO Dougie is taking his time to slowly build this team, we have seen in glimpses what we have been capable of, were unbeaten in recent weeks ad yet the Freedman out brigade are still moaning. We are not going to get anywhere by sacking a manager every season or even every other season.