The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Fri May 24, 2013 2:31 pm

Kevin Davies and Petrov, I reckon.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by borgetti_wanderers » Fri May 24, 2013 3:13 pm

Am I right in thinking that Petrov was on 30/35k a week in the Championship? So when we were in the Premiership before his wages were reduced (i hope to God he had a relegation wage cut!) he must've been 40k/50k a week?

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri May 24, 2013 3:13 pm

boltonboris wrote:I don't think the manager sits at the negotiating table (I wonder if they have special table that they use solely for negotiations) in fairness to Coyle. It would have been up to Gartside to sort the wages out I imagine..
This is true, but any manager with half a brain will know his wage budget and have an idea how much of it he wants to spend on each player. And before pen reaches paper - in that yawning six-month gap, judging by Holden - the club's negotiators should report back to the boss.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by chester white » Fri May 24, 2013 3:20 pm

Dougie's ruthless streak continues... Stadium Announcer Colin McGreavy given a free transfer!
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri May 24, 2013 3:27 pm

chester white wrote:Dougie's ruthless streak continues... Stadium Announcer Colin McGreavy given a free transfer!

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri May 24, 2013 3:51 pm

I see Simon Church has been released, worth a punt surely?

I know he hasn't played in the Prem this season, but iv'e always been impressed with him ,when iv'e seen him play (admittedly not a lot)

A good hard working forward (i know i know) who can play on either wing IIRC.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 24, 2013 3:52 pm

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boltonboris wrote:I don't think the manager sits at the negotiating table (I wonder if they have special table that they use solely for negotiations) in fairness to Coyle. It would have been up to Gartside to sort the wages out I imagine..
This is true, but any manager with half a brain will know his wage budget and have an idea how much of it he wants to spend on each player. And before pen reaches paper - in that yawning six-month gap, judging by Holden - the club's negotiators should report back to the boss.
Yeah of course the manager gets a say. It's his wage budget to manage. So he will know what a player wants, what the club have offered and ultimately it's up to him to say yes or no based on the % that deal will take of his budget.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Fri May 24, 2013 3:55 pm

Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by CrazyHorse » Fri May 24, 2013 4:17 pm

chester white wrote:Dougie's ruthless streak continues... Stadium Announcer Colin McGreavy given a free transfer!
Who's going to be doing it now then? Garty? A tea lady? Nicky Hunt?
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Beefheart » Fri May 24, 2013 4:22 pm

boltonboris wrote:Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
Well it does, in that it will limit the amount of wages he can offer to other targets, and as a result the calibre of player he can attract with the remaining wage budget.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri May 24, 2013 4:26 pm

boltonboris wrote:Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
It might be a while before he gets to not give a jot about giving an unemployed bloke £25kpw.

By the by, I hear he had his second interview at Wolves yesterday...

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 24, 2013 4:28 pm

boltonboris wrote:Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
Ermm it matters greatly to me as a manager how much of my budget each resource be it human or otherwise takes up. And ultimately it is my responsibility.

Football is no different.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri May 24, 2013 4:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
Ermm it matters greatly to me as a manager how much of my budget each resource be it human or otherwise takes up. And ultimately it is my responsibility.

Football is no different.
Boris has a point - some (football) managers have nowt to do with budgeting. But they're fools to themselves, because as Beefheart pointed out, resources are finite. If Coyle told Gartside he wanted Lonergan as back-up goalie but Leeds held out for £10m and the player wanted £100kpw, it would be idiocy for the manager to refrain from jot-giving.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Fri May 24, 2013 5:07 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
chester white wrote:Dougie's ruthless streak continues... Stadium Announcer Colin McGreavy given a free transfer!
:shock:
:shock: :shock:

There HAS to be a story to that.

Can't imagine Dougie has much to do with that sort of decision.

(He was very good pre-match v Blackpool, btw. In so much as you CAN be very good in cheer leading.)
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Fri May 24, 2013 5:12 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Aye, but if he's within his budget, then it matters not one jot to him what the player earns, is what I'm getting at..
Ermm it matters greatly to me as a manager how much of my budget each resource be it human or otherwise takes up. And ultimately it is my responsibility.

Football is no different.
It quite obviously is. The budget that you are allocated by your director will be for more than just recruitment and salaries, I imagine and based on what profits your branch / department makes..

That isn't a football managers remit. As there's people at the club who determine incomes from off-field activities. Coyle manages a team of players to win as many points as possible and if he's within his budget (which he clearly was), then he doesn't have to worry about the balance sheets the way you would.

99% of managers are ex-players. 99% of footballers couldn't count the number of fingers on the end of their hands. Can you imagine Redknapp (or Coyle) controlling a budget for instance?
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri May 24, 2013 5:16 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
plymouth wanderer wrote:
chester white wrote:Dougie's ruthless streak continues... Stadium Announcer Colin McGreavy given a free transfer!
:shock:
:shock: :shock:

There HAS to be a story to that.

Can't imagine Dougie has much to do with that sort of decision.

(He was very good pre-match v Blackpool, btw. In so much as you CAN be very good in cheer leading.)
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by thebish » Fri May 24, 2013 5:59 pm

borgetti_wanderers wrote:
thebish wrote:toby or not toby - are we really signing Alderweireld?
Where's this rumour appeared from?

i made it up! i needed a player called toby to make the joke work... Alderweireld was as good as any!

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Fri May 24, 2013 7:05 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:By the by, I hear he had his second interview at Wolves yesterday...
Coyle? Interesting! I think they're probably a good match for each other at the moment.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Fri May 24, 2013 8:05 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:By the by, I hear he had his second interview at Wolves yesterday...
Coyle? Interesting! I think they're probably a good match for each other at the moment.
Christ .... could go right through all over again !!


They'll back off when he explains he wants to bring his defensive team with him.

... & when the fat-controller arrives in the car park, well .....
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by thebish » Fri May 24, 2013 8:10 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:By the by, I hear he had his second interview at Wolves yesterday...
Coyle? Interesting! I think they're probably a good match for each other at the moment.
Christ .... could go right through all over again !!


They'll back off when he explains he wants to bring his defensive team with him.

... & when the fat-controller arrives in the car park, well .....

don't knock it - we're after selling some players off....

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