Spotty's Seriously Sub-standard Second Rate Transfer Thread.

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Marc Iles ‏@MarcIles 2h2 hours ago
Another little gem. Dorian Dervite offered to Bulgarian giants Levski Sofia, according to peeps over there #bwfc

oooh....now this is one I DO like, let's hope so

[StaffsTrotter]

Been told this morning from a very good source, that Mavies deal may be off as they don't want to match his £20k/week wages.

What usually then happens is that the agent/player goes back to the selling club to see if they'll top up his wages. So if Wednesday offer £12kpw, he could ask us to pay £8kpw or he'd be quite within his rights to sit out the contract we signed with him. It happens quite a lot when clubs try to force players out.

At which (hypothetical) point we have to ask whether it's worth us paying £8kpw for him - or, over the remaining 18 months of his contract, £600,000 - to not play for us.

No you're wrong.. I was told categorically so on here last week for suggesting the same as you.. They were ITK about the club never going into Admin too, so you're definitely wrong

Is there anything to stop SW or whoever saying, we'll buy the player for x, but you will have to continue to pay him ?

[boltonboris]

The player, I think, other than that I imagine Administration may put paid to what we owe him, or at least most but I'm not really sure how that works

[norm the jedi]

The player, I think, other than that I imagine Administration may put paid to what we owe him, or at least most but I'm not really sure how that works

Bizarrely enough as I understand it the only creditors you can't encourage to do a large one are the poor footballers who skate unscathed through the whole shit storm thanks to the PFA and FA rules.. Hence Pompey owned by fans and without a pot etc found themselves owing TBH and others eye-watering amounts. SOme waived the debts but many from there Fa cup and Redknapp glory days held out for every penny whilst all the local trades and businesses were stuffed into 10p in the pound or whatever..

i briefly considered punctuating that paragraph but I'mm too depressed!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

The player, I think, other than that I imagine Administration may put paid to what we owe him, or at least most but I'm not really sure how that works

I think, although I may be wrong, that in the case of Administration, the player is entitled to compensation via the PFA to make up any shortfall from what occurs during the administration period. Players wages, as part of the football related costs, are guaranteed as priority above all other claimants (I think).

[StaffsTrotter]

The player, I think, other than that I imagine Administration may put paid to what we owe him, or at least most but I'm not really sure how that works

I guess a clause making the new club pick up the wage for the player if we go bang is not beyond the wit of man or a players agent.

Given that supposedly we have announced 48 hrs till potential bump (or the BN rather helpfully have), still not sure why these buyer clubs are not waiting for that - perhaps they are or there is a slight dragging of feet on all sides

[Harry Genshaw]

Given the above, it seems utterly bizarre that we gave Zat Knight a generous new contract when there was no interest in him as a footballer anywhere.

if Mavies was in any kind of demand, Wednesday would be happy to pay up his contract with us/offer him similar terms to stop someone else swooping in for him.

our players are so bad even the vultures can't be ar5ed circling

[LeverEnd]

Given the above, it seems utterly bizarre that we gave Zat Knight a generous new contract when there was no interest in him as a footballer anywhere.

if Mavies was in any kind of demand, Wednesday would be happy to pay up his contract with us/offer him similar terms to stop someone else swooping in for him.

our players are so bad even the vultures can't be ar5ed circling

No, but according to the BN they are 'queueing up for our players'!

[Riviman]

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3 others in for Clough?

[bobo the clown]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/11/re ... wanderers/

3 others in for Clough?

So the "take the first offer" and the "we aren't trying to start anbauction" is shown to be bllx. Is this why we have Terry Robinson on board ?

I still think a Stoke or Everton or the like should be interested.

[Jugs]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/11/re ... wanderers/

3 others in for Clough?

So the "take the first offer" and the "we aren't trying to start anbauction" is shown to be bllx. Is this why we have Terry Robinson on board ?

I still think a Stoke or Everton or the like should be interested.

Clough learning his trade from the likes of Bojan and Shaqiri would be amazing.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Vela going to Cardiff according to B(E)N for 500k - http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... diff_City/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

Better get your Trotter shirt ordered Bobo, he's going to be our mainstay by the looks of it

[Peter Thompson]

I'm not arsed about Vela going, £500k is a decent price IMO

However, I think that its time to bulldoze the 'Eddie Davies Academy'....

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I'm not arsed about Vela going, £500k is a decent price IMO

However, I think that its time to bulldoze the 'Eddie Davies Academy'....

Vela going isn't really going to help anything much and he would be good to have around in div 3 next season. It's Spearing, Medo, Pratley, Mavies, Amos and Wheater that need to go. I know that would make the football even grimmer, but shedding their wages should put us a lot closer to being able to cover the outgoings with our incomings. Whatever happens in the coming days and weeks, we have to put our expenditure on a footing we can sustain. That means getting shut of the expensive ones and keeping the cheap ones. Inevitably that means we're going to be shit until we're in a position to start signing better players on the cheap - a long time off I reckon!

[Martin_Cruise]

I really hope Vela turns the move down. Mark Davies is haggling over wages with Sheff Weds before he'll move and Zac is saying he doesn't want to move to Bristol.Well done lads, put yourselves first and don't make life easy for Eddie Davies who has got us in this mess.It isn't their fault Eddie Davies is too thick to run a football club.Id rather go into administration this week than merely have it delayed for a few weeks.If the sales go through, the money is for the benefit of Eddie Davies not the club.Don't anyone be thinking otherwise

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I'm not arsed about Vela going, £500k is a decent price IMO

A a million a month running costs, it'll keep us going a full fortnight. Oh well, I suppose we can keep selling graduates from the Academy. Unless for some unthinkable reason it gets demolished.

I think that its time to bulldoze the 'Eddie Davies Academy'....

Do you really? And where do you suggest we get players from - a charity shop?

[Jugs]

500k fee agreed with Cardiff for Josh Vela. That's just so low in my opinion. This is just awful, we're losing young players for a pittance.

[BWFC_Insane]

500k fee agreed with Cardiff for Josh Vela. That's just so low in my opinion. This is just awful, we're losing young players for a pittance.

Again I don't think it is a totally unreasonable fee. In better times we might hold out for closer to 1M. But no way is he worth more than that. He looks poor at times in midfield playing for a side rooted to the bottom of the championship. He has yet to really prove his worth at this level.

[Jugs]

500k fee agreed with Cardiff for Josh Vela. That's just so low in my opinion. This is just awful, we're losing young players for a pittance.

Again I don't think it is a totally unreasonable fee. In better times we might hold out for closer to 1M. But no way is he worth more than that. He looks poor at times in midfield playing for a side rooted to the bottom of the championship. He has yet to really prove his worth at this level.

Whether you think it's unreasonable or not, we're losing young players here who were supposed to be the future of the club. All we're going to be left with is ageing shite.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Shame to see him leave. I think £500k is a little on the low end for a decent young player who I personally reckon won't be more than a Championship journeyman, but I certainly won't be losing loads of sleep over him. That said, I'd rather we kept hold of Vela (due to his lower wages) and tried to shift Medo, Pratley or some other underperforming senior player.

I also think £500k is a bit low but not robbery. I'm also sad to see him leave. I would also dearly love to see us get shut of an albatross like Medo, but the problem is this: the players with the big wages and poor performances seem curiously underpopular with potential buyers. Factor in our well-publicised fiscal problems and instead of palming off our expensive shit we're having to hand over our undervalued jewels.

On the face of it, and trying to be dispassionate, £2.5m for Clough and Vela is not daylight robbery. Trouble is, that's still not enough money.