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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:08 pm

Not sold, just given away in most cases. I doubt we'll be getting a fee for Pratley. I thought he'd tunred his Bolton career around last season but it was a flash in the pan, he's shite.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:09 pm

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ITFC wrote:Hello, Ipswich fan in peace here.

Really sorry to see whats going on with your club at the moment, never a good situation to be in. Can sympathies slightly for when we went in to admin and had to sell off our best assets at reduced costs.

What's the deal with Darren Pratley? I know we was linked in the summer with him, and it looks like those rumours are resurfacing again now. Anybody heard anything your end? How much do you reckon you would be looking for him?

I'd love for us to sign Clough, but we'd never spend 3mil+ on a player these days!

Anyways, all the best for the rest of the season.

Cheers,
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Pratley at the top of his game can still boss a Championship midfield just about. He's not been at the top of his game for a while (mid last season)...

On this season's form, we'd probably offer to piggy-back him over.
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He's ace. We would like four million pounds in used notes, by midnight, please.
Ha! Whats the general thought in and around where you? Are you expecting a number of players to be sold this January with youngsters filling the blanks till the end of season?
We expect that all the genuine affordable talent will be sold off faster than a rat up the proverbial and we will be left with all the expensive dross and one or two unknown unheard of youngsters of whom even their parents say to each other 'have you heard of him'. Our best bet is that somehow we manage to offload our entire squad and the league will be forced to guess what our games would have turned out like if we had any players. That way we might actually win some.
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
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ITFC wrote:Hello, Ipswich fan in peace here.

Really sorry to see whats going on with your club at the moment, never a good situation to be in. Can sympathies slightly for when we went in to admin and had to sell off our best assets at reduced costs.

What's the deal with Darren Pratley? I know we was linked in the summer with him, and it looks like those rumours are resurfacing again now. Anybody heard anything your end? How much do you reckon you would be looking for him?

I'd love for us to sign Clough, but we'd never spend 3mil+ on a player these days!

Anyways, all the best for the rest of the season.

Cheers,
ITFC
Pratley at the top of his game can still boss a Championship midfield just about. He's not been at the top of his game for a while (mid last season)...

On this season's form, we'd probably offer to piggy-back him over.
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He's ace. We would like four million pounds in used notes, by midnight, please.
Ha! Whats the general thought in and around where you? Are you expecting a number of players to be sold this January with youngsters filling the blanks till the end of season?
We expect that all the genuine affordable talent will be sold off faster than a rat up the proverbial and we will be left with all the expensive dross and one or two unknown unheard of youngsters of whom even their parents say to each other 'have you heard of him'. Our best bet is that somehow we manage to offload our entire squad and the league will be forced to guess what our games would have turned out like if we had any players. That way we might actually win some.
If they could put you down as a win against the other top 6 sides, that would be handy! Is there really that many high wage earners still at the club then?!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:15 pm

ITFC wrote:What's the deal with Darren Pratley?
Pratley will run all day. He seems to care. On Saturday, having saved us from the embarrassment of losing to non-leaguers for the first time in 104 years, he promptly started a fight with the homer who was holding on the the ball. He's not normally a psycho or hatchet man, but he has a slightly languid style (he's 6ft and lean) that can make him appear less committed than he is. He is the captain, albeit not the arm-waving gee-up type. Being captain allows him to get even more criticism from fans.

After almost four full seasons of underachievement he suddenly started playing well this spring, his energetic commitment typifying what Neil Lennon wants in a midfielder. He got his confidence back, he got the fans onside and he got a three-year contract (turning down your good selves). Since summer there has been a reversion to the mean, and he's now just another underperforming midfielder. (We have many, as Lennon pointed out before signing some more.)

For Swansea he played in deep midfield as much as attacking midfield, but for us he's been almost all attacking midfield. He'll score some goals - he once developed a pleasing knack for arriving late and planting home headers, while he also has a decent shot – but more like 7 or 8 in a good season, not double figures.

He's not a winger or a wide midfielder, no matter how many times Lennon shoehorns him out wide in a 4-2-3-1. Possibly, possibly a "wide target man" if Mick Mac wishes to do such a thing.

To put a price on him, as we are having to do with everything that's not nailed down and plenty that is, is difficult - mainly because as much as assessing his worth we're also assessing our contractual obligations (thanks to that three-year contract: he also turns 31 in April). If BWFC are apparently happy to sell Josh Vela (quite young, quite promising) for £500,000, they'll probably accept the same for the club captain - but then you'd have to match the contract we gave him in summer. If you can't, maybe we'd have to pay him off to join you. We're having much the same conversation with Sheffield Wednesday about Mark Davies. It's all rather jolly.

You don't happen to need any lumbering mid-30s ex-Prem centre-forwards who can manage maybe half an hour per fortnight, do you? Maybe buy one get one free?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:15 pm

ITFC wrote:Is there really that many high wage earners still at the club then?!
A constantly surprising number, considering we've been allegedly cost-cutting for three summers now.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:16 pm

ITFC wrote: Is there really that many high wage earners still at the club then?!
Far too many, apparently. I'm not the best one to give you a list, mind. I tend to ignore how much any player is supposedly earning, and concentrate on how terrible they were the last time they played. DSB's your man for the lists (Edit: ahh he's been answering already).
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:18 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: £500,000, they'll probably accept the same for the club captain
FFS DSB, I'd already started negotiations at £4mill
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Post by Tombwfc » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:23 pm

ITFC wrote:Hello, Ipswich fan in peace here.

Really sorry to see whats going on with your club at the moment, never a good situation to be in. Can sympathies slightly for when we went in to admin and had to sell off our best assets at reduced costs.

What's the deal with Darren Pratley? I know we was linked in the summer with him, and it looks like those rumours are resurfacing again now. Anybody heard anything your end? How much do you reckon you would be looking for him?

I'd love for us to sign Clough, but we'd never spend 3mil+ on a player these days!

Anyways, all the best for the rest of the season.

Cheers,
ITFC
Was signed when we were still in the Prem on the back of a good season with Swansea and was genuinely appalling up until he had 10 decent-ish games under Lennon last season. Having 10 decent games at Bolton these days makes you our best player and captain. Sadly he's not even approached mediocre since.

I'd struggle to name many worse who've played over 100 games for us, and I've never seen a midfielder as bad on the ball. However, he does run his heart out and it would not shock me at all if Big Mick found a use for him.

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Post by ITFC » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:28 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ITFC wrote:What's the deal with Darren Pratley?
Pratley will run all day. He seems to care. On Saturday, having saved us from the embarrassment of losing to non-leaguers for the first time in 104 years, he promptly started a fight with the homer who was holding on the the ball. He's not normally a psycho or hatchet man, but he has a slightly languid style (he's 6ft and lean) that can make him appear less committed than he is. He is the captain, albeit not the arm-waving gee-up type. Being captain allows him to get even more criticism from fans.

After almost four full seasons of underachievement he suddenly started playing well this spring, his energetic commitment typifying what Neil Lennon wants in a midfielder. He got his confidence back, he got the fans onside and he got a three-year contract (turning down your good selves). Since summer there has been a reversion to the mean, and he's now just another underperforming midfielder. (We have many, as Lennon pointed out before signing some more.)

For Swansea he played in deep midfield as much as attacking midfield, but for us he's been almost all attacking midfield. He'll score some goals - he once developed a pleasing knack for arriving late and planting home headers, while he also has a decent shot – but more like 7 or 8 in a good season, not double figures.

He's not a winger or a wide midfielder, no matter how many times Lennon shoehorns him out wide in a 4-2-3-1. Possibly, possibly a "wide target man" if Mick Mac wishes to do such a thing.

To put a price on him, as we are having to do with everything that's not nailed down and plenty that is, is difficult - mainly because as much as assessing his worth we're also assessing our contractual obligations (thanks to that three-year contract: he also turns 31 in April). If BWFC are apparently happy to sell Josh Vela (quite young, quite promising) for £500,000, they'll probably accept the same for the club captain - but then you'd have to match the contract we gave him in summer. If you can't, maybe we'd have to pay him off to join you. We're having much the same conversation with Sheffield Wednesday about Mark Davies. It's all rather jolly.

You don't happen to need any lumbering mid-30s ex-Prem centre-forwards who can manage maybe half an hour per fortnight, do you? Maybe buy one get one free?
Many thanks for the detailed reply! 500k you say? Would be well out of our price bracket then. Did he take a reduction in pay over the summer to stay with you?

On the off chance, we could perhaps offer you Giles Coke in return? I think i'd rather Darren Pratley on one leg than Giles Coke. Shocking footballer, who somehow managed to bag himself a 2 year (plus a years option) deal with us in the summer!!! Maybe we'll throw Jay Tabb in as well?

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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:34 pm

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ITFC wrote:What's the deal with Darren Pratley?
Pratley will run all day. He seems to care. On Saturday, having saved us from the embarrassment of losing to non-leaguers for the first time in 104 years, he promptly started a fight with the homer who was holding on the the ball. He's not normally a psycho or hatchet man, but he has a slightly languid style (he's 6ft and lean) that can make him appear less committed than he is. He is the captain, albeit not the arm-waving gee-up type. Being captain allows him to get even more criticism from fans.

After almost four full seasons of underachievement he suddenly started playing well this spring, his energetic commitment typifying what Neil Lennon wants in a midfielder. He got his confidence back, he got the fans onside and he got a three-year contract (turning down your good selves). Since summer there has been a reversion to the mean, and he's now just another underperforming midfielder. (We have many, as Lennon pointed out before signing some more.)

For Swansea he played in deep midfield as much as attacking midfield, but for us he's been almost all attacking midfield. He'll score some goals - he once developed a pleasing knack for arriving late and planting home headers, while he also has a decent shot – but more like 7 or 8 in a good season, not double figures.

He's not a winger or a wide midfielder, no matter how many times Lennon shoehorns him out wide in a 4-2-3-1. Possibly, possibly a "wide target man" if Mick Mac wishes to do such a thing.

To put a price on him, as we are having to do with everything that's not nailed down and plenty that is, is difficult - mainly because as much as assessing his worth we're also assessing our contractual obligations (thanks to that three-year contract: he also turns 31 in April). If BWFC are apparently happy to sell Josh Vela (quite young, quite promising) for £500,000, they'll probably accept the same for the club captain - but then you'd have to match the contract we gave him in summer. If you can't, maybe we'd have to pay him off to join you. We're having much the same conversation with Sheffield Wednesday about Mark Davies. It's all rather jolly.

You don't happen to need any lumbering mid-30s ex-Prem centre-forwards who can manage maybe half an hour per fortnight, do you? Maybe buy one get one free?
Many thanks for the detailed reply! 500k you say? Would be well out of our price bracket then. Did he take a reduction in pay over the summer to stay with you?

On the off chance, we could perhaps offer you Giles Coke in return? I think i'd rather Darren Pratley on one leg than Giles Coke. Shocking footballer, who somehow managed to bag himself a 2 year (plus a years option) deal with us in the summer!!! Maybe we'll throw Jay Tabb in as well?
Sorry, we have prior knowledge of Giles. He is stuck at your place, unfortunately for you.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:40 pm

ITFC wrote:500k you say? Would be well out of our price bracket then. Did he take a reduction in pay over the summer to stay with you?

On the off chance, we could perhaps offer you Giles Coke in return? I think i'd rather Darren Pratley on one leg than Giles Coke. Shocking footballer, who somehow managed to bag himself a 2 year (plus a years option) deal with us in the summer!!! Maybe we'll throw Jay Tabb in as well?
Hang on a week and you might get Pratley for far less than 500k.

Not sure if his new deal was on better, similar or worse terms. I don't think it's been publicly said. Talks dragged on for a while, which could mean either side was playing hardball, but evidently somebody gave in. Given our financial prowess, I'd say it was probably us.

Coke is already on the long list of Lennon signings that didn't work.

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ITFC wrote:500k you say? Would be well out of our price bracket then. Did he take a reduction in pay over the summer to stay with you?

On the off chance, we could perhaps offer you Giles Coke in return? I think i'd rather Darren Pratley on one leg than Giles Coke. Shocking footballer, who somehow managed to bag himself a 2 year (plus a years option) deal with us in the summer!!! Maybe we'll throw Jay Tabb in as well?
Hang on a week and you might get Pratley for far less than 500k.

Not sure if his new deal was on better, similar or worse terms. I don't think it's been publicly said. Talks dragged on for a while, which could mean either side was playing hardball, but evidently somebody gave in. Given our financial prowess, I'd say it was probably us.

Coke is already on the long list of Lennon signings that didn't work.
Fair enough I suppose. I actually thought he played well quite at Portman Road back in November, saying that, I thought you looked bloody decent as a side that night.

Well he's certainly not worked here either. His agent must be laughing with the deal we gave him.

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ITFC wrote:Hello, Ipswich fan in peace here.

Really sorry to see whats going on with your club at the moment, never a good situation to be in. Can sympathies slightly for when we went in to admin and had to sell off our best assets at reduced costs.

What's the deal with Darren Pratley? I know we was linked in the summer with him, and it looks like those rumours are resurfacing again now. Anybody heard anything your end? How much do you reckon you would be looking for him?

I'd love for us to sign Clough, but we'd never spend 3mil+ on a player these days!

Anyways, all the best for the rest of the season.

Cheers,
ITFC
Was signed when we were still in the Prem on the back of a good season with Swansea and was genuinely appalling up until he had 10 decent-ish games under Lennon last season. Having 10 decent games at Bolton these days makes you our best player and captain. Sadly he's not even approached mediocre since.

I'd struggle to name many worse who've played over 100 games for us, and I've never seen a midfielder as bad on the ball. However, he does run his heart out and it would not shock me at all if Big Mick found a use for him.
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Post by Riviman » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:39 pm

http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?
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Post by thebish » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:53 pm

Riviman wrote:http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?

hmmm... Eddie cannot BOTH be on a beach in Barbados sunning himself and not giving a shiny-shoite about the club and leaving Birch to do everything

AND

be getting involved in the detail blocking the sale of Vela.

someone is telling us porkies somewhere....

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Riviman wrote:http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?

Good news I say! Then again I'm not sure whether to believe him or not!

Does ED know something we don't? ? Let's hope so
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Post by thebish » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:58 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
Riviman wrote:http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?

Good news I say! Then again I'm not sure whether to believe him or not!

Does ED know something we don't? ? Let's hope so

I'd bloody hope ED knows a feck-load more than we do! :D

keep our assets = sale about to go through = it'll be reet :D

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Post by Enoch » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:21 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Coke is already on the long list of Lennon signings that didn't work.
Might help get the birds!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:50 pm

thebish wrote:
Riviman wrote:http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?

hmmm... Eddie cannot BOTH be on a beach in Barbados sunning himself and not giving a shiny-shoite about the club and leaving Birch to do everything

AND

be getting involved in the detail blocking the sale of Vela.

someone is telling us porkies somewhere....
Of course he can. He'd still only ever be a phone call or an emither away (or even a fax, but Garty's poorly)
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:12 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
thebish wrote:
Riviman wrote:http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2016/01/12 ... -vela.html

If this has any degree of truth then what the f*** is going on?

hmmm... Eddie cannot BOTH be on a beach in Barbados sunning himself and not giving a shiny-shoite about the club and leaving Birch to do everything

AND

be getting involved in the detail blocking the sale of Vela.

someone is telling us porkies somewhere....
Of course he can. He'd still only ever be a phone call or an emither away (or even a fax, but Garty's poorly)
Exactly. It's hardly like we're not in the 21st Century. It's not like he's head of the Environmental Agency and three million homes have been swept away...
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