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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:28 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote: which is why I moved fully into #teampanicfanny yesterday...
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Welcome Sir Throwaway! I hereby appoint you our Panic Co-ordinator on our far fetched bid to offer to buy something from somebody within the next 48 hours...
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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:31 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:I think we have to be in a position where we let them have a go at creating a plan, before rushing to the conclusion they're chancing it. We don't know who they're talking to and are speculating wildly around made up numbers as to how much clout they might have. Why not just wait and see?
My point is that from my experience with reviewing the feasibility of business plans in a previous job, this process cannot be done from the start in a three week window. Admittedly it was in the technology sector so it might be different timescales, but these were start-ups normally numbering in the single digit maybe 10 or so employees applying for a few tens to low hundreds of thousand pounds in funding and support, and it often took them months to go through the rigmarole of getting a business plan together, getting feedback, reviewing it before reaching an acceptable level.

The ST have up to 30 vested interests, at a much higher finance level and they haven't even reviewed the club's finances yet. I just feel that it cannot be done, regardless of their potentially good intentions. I'd be saying something different if they'd entered the ring earlier in the season but to go from 0 to airtight business plan in 3 weeks even assuming some businesses don't drop out or disagree with the plan? Can't see it happening, just at a logistical level.
I think it would be a huge ask too, but on occasion I've seen the odd surprise (I too do business planning as part of the day job - generally for stuff that starts out in the $100's M). I don't think they've got enough time to formulate a fully rounded plan. I don't see the harm in them giving it a shot though, given where we're at.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:46 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
throwawayboltonian wrote: which is why I moved fully into #teampanicfanny yesterday...
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Welcome Sir Throwaway! I hereby appoint you our Panic Co-ordinator on our far fetched bid to offer to buy something from somebody within the next 48 hours...
I just bought lunch if that counts :pissed:
Worthy4England wrote:I think it would be a huge ask too, but on occasion I've seen the odd surprise (I too do business planning as part of the day job - generally for stuff that starts out in the $100's M). I don't think they've got enough time to formulate a fully rounded plan. I don't see the harm in them giving it a shot though, given where we're at.
Oh yeah no doubt, happy for them to try but I'm worried that ED will delay an actual sale to see what the ST have to say, only for it to come to nothing or be utter crap. I was trying to highlight that even for the peanuts amounts I dealt with, the process is a longwinded one (which I'm sure you know :) )

You're almost certainly more experienced than I am then - it was a graduate role that involved analysing strategies for commercialising innovative technologies from start ups! We had some real humdingers including one written in crayon about a spaceship that could get to Mars in a few days. Worrying thing is the maths actually made sense, indicating the guy wasn't completely nuts...
We seem to have a court date looming - so the problem might be fairly time-boxed. There's only a few scenarios, which I think Spotty has previously highlighted. Given that the contention was that we had zero liquidity last time, I suspect we're going to have to cough up the HMRC monies on the 22nd or it all looks a lot bleaker. If we can't show any progress then I'd struggle to see why we'd be given more time. So unless ED has a cunning plan that postpones the 22nd (like pay the bill), then I think we'll have to show we're near with one of the parties looking to acquire...I doubt a late breaking bid from a Supporters Trust, if it had little to no substance would help us there.

Either way, it's a no lose gamble on behalf of BWFC.

People talk about ED "stalling" - that doesn't shift the end date for the next Court hearing...Although if some people thought white knight was going to come in with £10m to spend in the Jan transfer window, then frankly I think they're barking.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:20 pm

Are the proceed of the car park not paying the tax bill?
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:22 pm

boltonboris wrote:Are the proceed of the car park not paying the tax bill?
Possibly, or possibly some shareholder loans and staff costs.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Beefheart » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:30 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Beefheart wrote:I suppose if SSC aren't going to buy their club, this lot could help them cut their losses by giving them some money to look at any due diligence work they've done (I'm assuming they've done some of course).
I'm assuming that SSC have simply because they're still in the process, and have preferred bidder status (something that the club/Birch themselves have said too IIRC). ED seems really fickle, especially with the reports of the circumstances of his ceasing contact with Stelios, so I imagine if there was no substance in SSC's deal or if due diligence had brought up concerns then they wouldn't still be in dialogue together.

Sorry the wording has thrown me a little bit - are you suggesting that the ST could pay SSC for finance information about the club? I'm not sure if that'd be allowed or ethical.
:conf: Not a clue if I'm honest. Guess they'd need the clubs permission and some sort of agreement that SSC aren't liable if the due diligence. Beats duplicating work, I'd hate to be in Bolton's accounts department pulling out the same documents and answering the same questions whilst not getting paid.

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Post by Spartan2 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:32 pm

billionaire has submitted a bid according to BEN.
http://theboltonnews.co.uk/news/1424043 ... Wanderers/

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:39 pm

Fxck me!
A white knight, Abramovich type?
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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:47 pm

As with all other participants, welcome in and lets see the colour of yer cash.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:47 pm

BWFC-I's new feltching buddy, Isles is clearly a busy, know-nowt 4uckwit. He didn't see this coming. :lol:
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Post by Prufrock » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:50 pm

Spartan2 wrote:billionaire has submitted a bid according to BEN.
http://theboltonnews.co.uk/news/1424043 ... Wanderers/

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:51 pm

I'm now team Tamraz. #fickle.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:52 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:BWFC-I's new feltching buddy, Isles is clearly a busy, know-nowt 4uckwit. He didn't see this coming. :lol:
To be fair both Iles and Nixon have said all along that there's been at least 4(?) interested parties, including SSC and the ST too I think. That leaves 2 who haven't disclosed details, or 3 if the ST weren't considered a serious contender. This might be one of them that's seemingly culminated in a formal bid.
Then he should've done more research rather than fannying about giving it the big I Am on Twitter, the egregious prick.
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Post by wigan white » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:53 pm

"Roger Tamraz's Superwhite Panicfannies!!!!", the new chant at the Macron :oyea:
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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:54 pm

I'm up for a bit of oil money laundering if necessary...

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:54 pm

It ain't just a rumour, it seems... :oyea:

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... Wanderers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:55 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
throwawayboltonian wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:BWFC-I's new feltching buddy, Isles is clearly a busy, know-nowt 4uckwit. He didn't see this coming. :lol:
To be fair both Iles and Nixon have said all along that there's been at least 4(?) interested parties, including SSC and the ST too I think. That leaves 2 who haven't disclosed details, or 3 if the ST weren't considered a serious contender. This might be one of them that's seemingly culminated in a formal bid.
Then he should've done more research rather than fannying about giving it the big I Am on Twitter, the egregious prick.
You assume that Iles hasn't known about this or been investigating....

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:56 pm

I'm available at short notice at #teamtampax
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Post by HMX » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:56 pm

Somebody wasted no time updating his wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Tamraz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In 2016 he expressed an interest in buying Bolton Wanderers Football Club with a view to returning it back to being a Community Club

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Post by wigan white » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:02 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I'm available at short notice at #teamtampax
My panic fanny has gone into overdrive. *squelch*
So Mr.Tampax is here to rescue all the Panic Fannies!!!! Sounds like an ideal epsiode for one of C4's Embarrassing bodies series :lol:

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