The ianevattable sacking

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When does Evatt go?

Now, international break and time to save the season.
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Give him 10 more games, least he deserves.
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He’ll turn this around.
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After Duff dies him again - Hudds at home.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:48 am

Evatt's latest interview with Iles....dear me, he can't & won't change the way we play (even though its clear to all that its not working !) because this is the way he's played for 4 - 4 1/2 years and its been successful apart from 22 games this year - the players need to believe in his system, we just have to tweak it and play it better etc. sounds exactly like his pre season Plan A 2.0

The man is an absolute egomaniac.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:36 am

Mar wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 am
I'd imagine it was intended as a joke, not exactly something you joke about though. Mental.
Yes it was a very silly comment to make, but I suspect that it was tongue in cheek.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:55 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:36 am
Mar wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 am
I'd imagine it was intended as a joke, not exactly something you joke about though. Mental.
Yes it was a very silly comment to make, but I suspect that it was tongue in cheek.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24 ... condemned/
Club investigating, criminal proceedngs possible.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:01 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:55 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:36 am
Mar wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 am
I'd imagine it was intended as a joke, not exactly something you joke about though. Mental.
Yes it was a very silly comment to make, but I suspect that it was tongue in cheek.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24 ... condemned/
Club investigating, criminal proceedngs possible.
IMO that's going too far, it was a very stupid & daft comment to make and I bet the guy seriously regrets it now - but I didn't read it as a 'proper threat to kill' etc. Perhaps a ticking off yes, but criminal proceedings absolutely not.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:27 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:01 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:55 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:36 am
Mar wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 am
I'd imagine it was intended as a joke, not exactly something you joke about though. Mental.
Yes it was a very silly comment to make, but I suspect that it was tongue in cheek.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24 ... condemned/
Club investigating, criminal proceedngs possible.
IMO that's going too far, it was a very stupid & daft comment to make and I bet the guy seriously regrets it now - but I didn't read it as a 'proper threat to kill' etc. Perhaps a ticking off yes, but criminal proceedings absolutely not.
Sticks and stones can break bones, only takes one lunatic to act on it. Thankfully you're not that lunatic.

Zero accountability on social media. Saying what you like and saying I only meant it as a joke. We'll find out if it's a valid defence.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by truewhite15 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:58 pm

Club is absolutely right to be taking action. Some of the personal stuff that I've seen both on Tw-X and in other places is beyond the pale. These men are here to do their best for our club. We might disagree on how that's supposed to be done, or on whether their best is good enough, and that's fine. But making personal comments, making vitriolic attacks on the character or personal choices of our own manager and players, going after their family and kids, is simply not acceptable.

Hope he gets the book thrown at him.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:59 pm

Given all the publicity around the keyboard warriors going to jail after the rioting earlier this year, you'd be a special kind of idiot to think you'd get away with that sort of comment consequence free.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:58 pm

Police now involved, as they were always going to be.

Luke's mates are apparently horrified that the rozzers would take an interest in a potential incident of soliciting to murder against a public figure, in a sport with a history of violence and during a time when they are cracking down on violent rhetoric online.

Thick as mince.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:49 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:58 pm
Police now involved, as they were always going to be.

Luke's mates are apparently horrified that the rozzers would take an interest in a potential incident of soliciting to murder against a public figure, in a sport with a history of violence and during a time when they are cracking down on violent rhetoric online.

Thick as mince.
They might be attempting to crack down on it but one glance at X suggests it’s worse than ever. Musk’s plan I guess. The platform should be banned and the club should absolutely not be using it.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:02 pm

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They might be attempting to crack down on it but one glance at X suggests it’s worse than ever. Musk’s plan I guess. The platform should be banned and the club should absolutely not be using it.
The far right realised a while ago that "the common" is now online and they'd do well if they could dominate that sphere.

Musk's open support of neo-nazism has come essentially without consequences for him, so it's now officially mainstream.

We're in some shite.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:36 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:02 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:49 pm
They might be attempting to crack down on it but one glance at X suggests it’s worse than ever. Musk’s plan I guess. The platform should be banned and the club should absolutely not be using it.
The far right realised a while ago that "the common" is now online and they'd do well if they could dominate that sphere.

Musk's open support of neo-nazism has come essentially without consequences for him, so it's now officially mainstream.

We're in some shite.
And on that we completely agree.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:06 pm

For me I would give him a ban - couple of years. There’s a way back then. Ban for life and potential court and conviction and that could harness bitterness and have a worse outcome in the end. Hopefully he realises he’s a feck* and sorts himself out.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Prufrock » Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:20 pm

It's fecking dense and don't have any particular sympathy. But it's obviously a joke. Not sure it should be a police matter beyond checking it was a joke. Modern world etc.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:10 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:20 pm
It's fecking dense and don't have any particular sympathy. But it's obviously a joke. Not sure it should be a police matter beyond checking it was a joke. Modern world etc.
Very mixed feelings on it. Can see this view. I suspect you could find thousands of similar posts if you trawl. Probably hundreds of thousands. But I guess the issue is you don’t know the intent without context. Very possible someone who knows nowt about bwfc might not see that as a joke if they stumbled on it.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:42 pm

Given the febrile atmosphere at the moment it was at least dangerous.

I don't think the public order offence needs the same mens rea element as soliciting to murder (not a lawyer), so he may still be charged under Section 4 based on possible interpretation by the reader. If he is he can't have many complaints.

My issue isn't really whether he should be banged up or not, it's the reaction that the police shouldn't even be looking at it. They obviously have to.

The club's duty of care to staff welfare means they have to report it to the police and the police have a duty to public welfare, so you can't say they shouldn't be involved.

As soon as he publishes that it's inevitable that the police speak to him.

You'd imagine he's going to be banned and given how thick some of these guys seem to be I could see the reaction to that getting some more banned too.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Prufrock » Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:43 pm

Given where we are this was inevitable.

My opinion though is it shouldn't be a crime, and police involvement should be limited to investigating whether it was a real threat.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by boltonboris » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:25 pm

Rob Edwards is potted. He won't be on the market for long. Incredible job with Luton and whilst they've been poor this season, they're probably still above where they should be in the grand scheme of things
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:09 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:25 pm
Rob Edwards is potted. He won't be on the market for long. Incredible job with Luton and whilst they've been poor this season, they're probably still above where they should be in the grand scheme of things
While it would be darkly ironic if Ian's demise were hastened by the availability of his mate, I don't think we're anywhere near getting Edwards. I can see the point of targeting managers with promotions from this division, but surely as someone who got promoted from the one above he'll be expecting plenty of second-tier offers.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by boltonboris » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:13 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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Rob Edwards is potted. He won't be on the market for long. Incredible job with Luton and whilst they've been poor this season, they're probably still above where they should be in the grand scheme of things
While it would be darkly ironic if Ian's demise were hastened by the availability of his mate, I don't think we're anywhere near getting Edwards. I can see the point of targeting managers with promotions from this division, but surely as someone who got promoted from the one above he'll be expecting plenty of second-tier offers.
Absolutely, but treating this as part of the giant merry-go-round. Luton will most likely go for a League One manager if they're not looking at the likes of "Bucky", "lowey" & "Schuey"
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:24 pm

Remember when we got humiliated at Stockport and it was definitely definitely his last chance? Well since then we've gone:

W BLACKPOOL
D Cambridge
W MANSFIELD
L WIGAN
D Wycombe
L BARNSLEY
W LINCOLN
L Mansfield
W Exeter
L Rotherham
D CAMBRIDGE
L CHARLTON

Played 12, W4 D3 L5.
That's 15pts from 12 games (a quarter of a season), which is 1.25 PPG. Multiply that by 46 and you get 57.5pts, which last season would have been enough to finish 15th.

So even since that Stockport game – when things couldn't possibly get worse and Lessons Had To Be Learnt – we've been beaten more than we've won, and we've gathered points at the sort of rate that over most seasons might see you celebrate safety from relegation in April.

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