Do we need to worry?

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:22 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:Can't see Coyle going to Liverpool at present. Seems more likely Liverpool owners would consider putting Dalgleish in charge(keep the fans happy) till the summer and scouting out their next manager very carefully. I don't think they'd take a chance on Coyle's inexperience. It's a massive call for them.
Remember when Coyle came here he could already have gone to celtic. He has a career plan of proving himself and working his way up. It's an intelligent approach.Better to gradually build your skills and reputation than jump into a cauldron of false expectations and potentially ruin that reputation.A team of Villa's size would however fit perfectly into that career path. I'm hoping it's too early for him but I can see that being a temptation should it arise now.
West ham, if they have any sense at all should be faxing fat Sam. He would keep them up but they wouldn't be able to continue to jerk themselves off over their wonderful tradition of beautiful ineffectuality.Tough call but david Gold has no fear of taking on nuts and bolts managers.
Crystal balls me :D Just hope the last bit comes true now.Would love to hear those hammers fans squealing about Allardyce while he saves their bacon.

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:54 pm

Look, Coyle's way to intelligent to be swayed by bright lights of the burning ship that is Liverpool. Otherwise he'd have gone to Celtic when he had the chance.
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by boltonboris » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:59 pm

Coyle won't look at Liverpool and think "spent force, I'll stay here and laud it up". He'll be thinking "Gerrard, Reina, Torres, Cole, Johnson.. I can get these boys back to the big-time"

ALL managers are self-confident, some overly so. If they didn't think they could achieve anything, anywhere, they'd feck if off
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Tombwfc » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:19 pm

Exactly, how shit would his self confidence have to be to say "Nah that job's too big for me"?

It's an opportunity he may never get again, he'd run there if they offered it to him. There is no way in the world, not now, not ever, that a manager (or a player) is going to turn down a serious offer from Liverpool to stay at Bolton.

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:03 pm

It may show greater self confidence to believe you can succeed at each level before reaching the top. A confident person may believe that kind of job can be their's when they choose to take it.

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:08 pm

Eggsackerly. If he has true confidence, he's going to wait for a better opportunity than a busted flush like Liverpool.

Fergie will retire in a couple of years. As will Wenger. Owen's stock could be incredibly high by that point. Particularly if he will have a team of players who all played for him on loan before waiting for him.
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:26 pm

Where are Man United more likely to want to poach a manager from?

(a) Bolton, with no 'big club' experience

(b) Liverpool, having turned around an ailing giants fortunes

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:32 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Where are Man United more likely to want to poach a manager from?

(a) Bolton, with no 'big club' experience

(b) Liverpool, having turned around an ailing giants fortunes
(c) Neither



I'll go for (c)

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:33 pm

I can see it now.Coyle another one in the long line of managers to be poached by united from Liverpool.Not even sure if there's ever been a player made that move.

Is anyone on here old enough to remember where united generally poach their managers from?

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:35 pm

Maybe Coyle should go to Kilmarnock


Isn't Phil Chisnall the last player to make the switch between Liverpool and United?
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:37 pm

Meh

Lost in translation I think

I know its hardly a well trodden path Liverpool to United

What I'm saying is I think Coyle will be more attractive to bigger clubs the more he proves himself at bigger things

Are LLiverpool bigger than Bolton? Yes
Are United bigger than Liverpool? Yes

What makes Mourinhio an attractive proposition for Real Madrid? His work for Barcelona or his stint at Chelsea?

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Mar » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:44 pm

Well seeing as Dalglish has gone to Liverpool that looks like a non-starter thank gawd.

I'm not overly concerned about losing Coyle at this present juncture. I don't think one of the really big clubs would come in for him (see. Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and to a lesser extent Spurs) so the only likely ones are the likes of Newcastle, Liverpool, Aston Villa, etc. which are all poisoned chalices of places to go to. I would understand if the manager would jump ship and leave knowing that theres plenty of money and support at a different club but from the situation as it stands theres not. Allardyce was a prime example of this when he went to Newcastle and look how that turned out for him.

We're not losing Coyle any time soon. We may as well just sit there and let the man and the players do their jobs. :pissed:

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:49 pm

ok - taking the temperature..

I haven't been worried at all since the start - but there did seem to be quite a few people worried over the last few days...

LK isn't - Bruce isn't - Ianmoores love-child isn't - I don't think CAPS is...

BWFCi was/is - Tom is/was - dibble seems to be - who else is still worried?

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:52 pm

I'm not worried either way - this is football, it's his job, if he feel he goes to further his career then so be it. I wouldn't hold it against him.

I'd think he'd be a bit daft to jump before he's fulfilled any potential here, and I think he would stay to see what he could fulfill here, but I'd be neither surprised or Burnleyesque if he did take the Liverpool job.
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:58 pm

If it was offered he'd walk all the way

Just can't see why anybody would think he'd be offered it
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:59 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:If it was offered he'd walk all the way

Just can't see why anybody would think he'd be offered it
I suspect Liverpool would stump up for a taxi! - at the very least he wouldn't walk alone.. :wink:

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by HMX » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:14 pm

I'm not too worried about this. Just a feeling.

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Tombwfc » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:22 am

thebish wrote:ok - taking the temperature..

I haven't been worried at all since the start - but there did seem to be quite a few people worried over the last few days...

LK isn't - Bruce isn't - Ianmoores love-child isn't - I don't think CAPS is...

BWFCi was/is - Tom is/was - dibble seems to be - who else is still worried?
Not worried, I don't think he will be offered the job. However, I am certain he wouldn't turn it down if he was.

I see no difference at all between leaving Burnley in the position they were for Bolton in the position we were, to leaving us for Liverpool now.

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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:33 am

I don't think anyone else does. I think the majority recognise he could do a whole lot better, and that Liverpool could just damage his career. Ludicrously high expectations, incapable of being met with the shite squad they've got.
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Re: Do we need to worry?

Post by Hoboh » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:17 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I don't think anyone else does. I think the majority recognise he could do a whole lot better, and that Liverpool could just damage his career. Ludicrously high expectations, incapable of being met with the shite squad they've got.
I'd agree but their new owners ain't going to pick their noses forever on the transfer front, seems they just didn't trust woy.

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