Sheffield Wednesday Away

[truewhite15]

If Coyle is still in charge come Saturday, I honestly believe that the worst thing we could do is win. It's gotten that bad. I genuinely cannot see us turning this around under Coyle. I can't see one win being the spark that rockets us up the league. I can only see a win giving Coyle more unjust time at the helm, and the cycle will repeat again, with Coyle given another few games, which he'll just nick enough from. Not enough to get us up the league, just enough to keep him in a job.

[General Mannerheim]

We have decided to go on the coach, does anybody know if there is somewhere I will be able to leave my car up at the Reebok, do they let you park on the carpark in front of De Vere's?

i find this question amazing.

What amazes you?

Now I'm only guessing and I'm sure the General can answer for himself, but I'm thinking that the clue is in the question as in you asking do they let you park on the carpark. Now if you're arriving in an elephant-drawn juggernaut the answer might possibly be no, but asking the question do they let you park a car on a carpark???

Ah right. Well actually, I'm well aware of the uses of carparks. I didnt specifically ask whether I could park a car in a carpark, I asked "do they let you". My question, and it seems the more intelligent posters managed to understand, was asking if there would be a car park available (as in will it be open/will I be able to get out etc.) that the away fans would be allowed to leave their cars on without getting a fine/clamped etc.

perhaps they should go round and pick everyone up from their houses?

[a1]

i hope someone goes with this photo printed on a bedsheet as a joke.

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lol

[DJBlu]

Lost all interest again.

This is going to be available on a stream if you can be bothered guys.

[General Mannerheim]

Lost all interest again.

This is going to be available on a stream if you can be bothered guys.

yeah, tbh im the same - i dont find myself getting angry about it all, i just seem to lose interest and drift away. the last two managers have really doused my burning passion, or maybe i just grew up? either way it makes me quite sad.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Lost all interest again

yeah, tbh im the same - i dont find myself getting angry about it all, i just seem to lose interest and drift away. the last two managers have really doused my burning passion, or maybe i just grew up? either way it makes me quite sad.

Probably a bit of both, General. As I understand it you've got more important things in life now, right? Bolton will always be there for you – and you will always be Bolton – but at times like this, when it seems (literally) pointless, other things loom larger in life.

Mind you, we're all still here discussing it. Thank the fates for workbased internet.

[Verbal]

It was pretty salient at Crawley - when the second goal went in. Before I would have been absolutely devastated. When they scored the feeling that came to me was more akin to that of an "Oh, bugger" such as when you leave your phone at home.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It was pretty salient at Crawley - when the second goal went in. Before I would have been absolutely devastated. When they scored the feeling that came to me was more akin to that of an "Oh, bugger" such as when you leave your phone at home.

I enjoyed seeing the three (other) sides of the ground erupt in celebration. I've always perversely enjoyed that – loyalties aside, it's quite a sight - but these days there's a tinge of melancholy to it: like an ageing man watching teenagers high on life. Still, unlike many clubs, we've had some blindingly good times. Imagine having been a Bury fan...

[89bwfc89]

[/quote]Ah right. Well actually, I'm well aware of the uses of carparks. I didnt specifically ask whether I could park a car in a carpark, I asked "do they let you". My question, and it seems the more intelligent posters managed to understand, was asking if there would be a car park available (as in will it be open/will I be able to get out etc.) that the away fans would be allowed to leave their cars on without getting a fine/clamped etc.[/quote]

perhaps they should go round and pick everyone up from their houses?[/quote]

Why would they do this? More to the point, why would you even make this comment? In no way have I insinuated that I would like them to do this or that I'm annoyed that I have to take my car.

I asked a reasonable question about car parking. I got a reasonable response from a person with the ability to understand my question. For clarity, as you so obviously need it, I would like to take my car but if there is nowhere to leave it I wont be able to, so I'll have to find another way to get there, is that ok with you?

Your attempt at humour/sarcasm/whatever you were trying to achieve from your comment has clearly failed.

And the award for most pointless post goes to.....

[TANGODANCER]

If Coyle is still in charge come Saturday, I honestly believe that the worst thing we could do is win. .

Sorry mate, but rubbish. We need to win to get points and if we're doing it then fine. If we lose, then's the time to change it. If Coyle has to go, then fine, but a win is a must if we can do it. Three more points will see us much healthier. Keep losing and Jose Maurinho won't save us. When we stop taking things for granted and wake up to the fact that we're not "an ex-Premier League side" but a Championship one and every team we play are the same as us and wanting wins, the penny might just drop. Divine right we don't have, ask Hull, Derby, Birmingham and Notts. Facts speak for themselves. An old adage but a true one, "It's never too soon to start winning".

[CAPSLOCK]

It comes down to this

Do I think a new manager would get us 3 more points in one less game, than Coyle will get us

The answer is yes, so, as difficult as it is, I would be happy to sacrifice 3 points for the greater good

Unless we get 3 points, looking secure at the back and playing something approaching the team/tactics seemingly favoured on here

A 5-4 win, and he can fcuk right off

[thebish]

hmmmm...

wishing for a loss - not sure I could ever quite do that - but I understand it...

I might even embrace the idea IF I knew that it would trigger a manager-change...

but I don't think I can wish for a loss when it is far from certain that it would bring a manager change - because I'd still rather have three more points and coyle than no more points and coyle...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

What if - and it won't happen - you knew for certain that Coyle would go if we lost? If he (or Gartside) made a pre-game win-or-go pledge?

[HMX]

So we're going to this one.

[BWFC_Insane]

For me its at the point where I know that Coyle will not do our club any good in the long term.

We have a very good squad for this league so at some point we are bound to string a few results together even with Coyle in charge. But what gets you automatic promotion is consistency of results.

For that reason if it was for sure that losing on Saturday would be enough to have him removed, then I'd take that. Because frankly it would offer no guarantees, but I'm 100% sure that Coyle is not the right man so we may as well roll the dice rather than stick with the failing situation.

I think deep down I can't enjoy a win at the minute cos it feels like its just prolonging the agony.......which is probably why partly I feel so disenfranchised by it all.

Not really caring on the result either way!

[CAPSLOCK]

What if - and it won't happen - you knew for certain that Coyle would go if we lost? If he (or Gartside) made a pre-game win-or-go pledge?

I'd prefer him to see the light and win 1-0

A dour, dismal, dreary 1-0

But, it's not happening, is it?

So, with a heavy heart, lose and go

[BWFC_Insane]

What if - and it won't happen - you knew for certain that Coyle would go if we lost? If he (or Gartside) made a pre-game win-or-go pledge?

I'd prefer him to see the light and win 1-0

A dour, dismal, dreary 1-0

But, it's not happening, is it?

So, with a heavy heart, lose and go

Its not as simple as tactics and systems though Caps.

Clearly there is a big problem at the club. Even with Coyle's bizarre insistence on 4-4-2 and strange decisions along the way, we still should be performing better given the players we've got.

Lots of rumours flying round about problems behind the scenes and no point posting em here cos they are unverifiable.

But its obvious to me that there are some rather massive problems, which is why we are underperforming both individually (in some cases) and as a collective team (in all cases).

Whether that is problems within the squad, problems with the management, problems that are deeper rooted, its clear Coyle hasn't solved them over a fairly extended period.

Frankly if we looked committed as a team, I'd probably forgive a lot of the other stuff. But we simply don't. Something quite serious is not right. And that buck stops with the manager when its been going on 18 months and seemingly despite replacing most of the players still persists.

[truewhite15]

If Coyle is still in charge come Saturday, I honestly believe that the worst thing we could do is win. .

Sorry mate, but rubbish. We need to win to get points and if we're doing it then fine. If we lose, then's the time to change it. If Coyle has to go, then fine, but a win is a must if we can do it. Three more points will see us much healthier. Keep losing and Jose Maurinho won't save us. When we stop taking things for granted and wake up to the fact that we're not "an ex-Premier League side" but a Championship one and every team we play are the same as us and wanting wins, the penny might just drop. Divine right we don't have, ask Hull, Derby, Birmingham and Notts. Facts speak for themselves. An old adage but a true one, "It's never too soon to start winning".

You misunderstand. Yes, I want us to win. I want us to win every single game, as all fans here do. The point is that a win on Saturday does nothing for us in the long term. What's three points if it keeps Coyle in a job, making the same mistakes time and time again, so we drop the next 6 or something? Alternatively, a defeat, and the possible sacking of Coyle, could open us up to new ideas, a fresh manager, a fresh start, and possibly a winning run. I just really don't see Coyle turning this around, Tango. I wish I did. But I don't see him getting us enough points to get us promoted.

[thebish]

What if - and it won't happen - you knew for certain that Coyle would go if we lost? If he (or Gartside) made a pre-game win-or-go pledge?

then - as I said - I might embrace the idea...

[General Mannerheim]

Ah right. Well actually, I'm well aware of the uses of carparks. I didnt specifically ask whether I could park a car in a carpark, I asked "do they let you". My question, and it seems the more intelligent posters managed to understand, was asking if there would be a car park available (as in will it be open/will I be able to get out etc.) that the away fans would be allowed to leave their cars on without getting a fine/clamped etc.[/quote]

perhaps they should go round and pick everyone up from their houses?[/quote]

Why would they do this? More to the point, why would you even make this comment? In no way have I insinuated that I would like them to do this or that I'm annoyed that I have to take my car.

I asked a reasonable question about car parking. I got a reasonable response from a person with the ability to understand my question. For clarity, as you so obviously need it, I would like to take my car but if there is nowhere to leave it I wont be able to, so I'll have to find another way to get there, is that ok with you?

Your attempt at humour/sarcasm/whatever you were trying to achieve from your comment has clearly failed.

And the award for most pointless post goes to.....[/quote]