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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:42 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:If Sordell isn't fit, there's no point in playing him. A game a week until he gets sharp is fine, and then when he is fit, give him more game time.
He said in the press last week that Sordell is exactly where he needs to be, fitness wise. If that's not the case, he lied. If it is the case, he lied today.

He also lied about him being homesick though, so.....
That was before the Sunderland game though, wasn't it? Maybe Sordell reacted badly and didn't recover well enough.

I can't say either way but I'm happy to trust Freedman's word on the issue. I think he wants Sordell fit and in the team but he doesn't want to rush the process.

It's frustrating, I know, but I'll give Freedman the benefit of the doubt here.
Do you honestly believe this?
Well surely it's more believable than DF thinking Sordell is 5hit hot and ready to play and then not picking him because he doesn't want to win games, no? :conf:
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:44 pm

So you believe it then?
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:45 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:So you believe it then?
Well it's more believable than any other alternative proposed, or I can think of
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:46 pm

Then you're a bit daft.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Enoch » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:48 pm

What do you believe Wandering Willy?

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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:49 pm

That Freedman's dafter than HG.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Enoch » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:50 pm

Well at least you believe in something I guess. :)

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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:24 pm

BL3 wrote:Sordell didn't play today because he isn't fit enough to play two games in a week according to Dougie. Then again, he's not going to get any fitter by not playing.
How can that be ?

Just how fckg careless was Coylewith him ?? Fck, not being match fit is one thing, but this guy was playing regularly till 12m ago & hasn't had any injury meanwhile & played U21 & Olympic footy, and has trained at pro level day in, day out.

How could he possibly be that unfit ? Or did Coyle actually just let his san about ??
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:29 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
BL3 wrote:Sordell didn't play today because he isn't fit enough to play two games in a week according to Dougie. Then again, he's not going to get any fitter by not playing.
How can that be ?

Just how fckg careless was Coylewith him ?? Fck, not being match fit is one thing, but this guy was playing regularly till 12m ago & hasn't had any injury meanwhile & played U21 & Olympic footy, and has trained at pro level day in, day out.

How could he possibly be that unfit ? Or did Coyle actually just let his san about ??
Am I the only one struggling with this?
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:33 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
BL3 wrote:Sordell didn't play today because he isn't fit enough to play two games in a week according to Dougie. Then again, he's not going to get any fitter by not playing.
How can that be ?

Just how fckg careless was Coylewith him ?? Fck, not being match fit is one thing, but this guy was playing regularly till 12m ago & hasn't had any injury meanwhile & played U21 & Olympic footy, and has trained at pro level day in, day out.

How could he possibly be that unfit ? Or did Coyle actually just let his san about ??
Am I the only one struggling with this?
swan about, :oops:

I just can't see how, over about 10 weeks after Coyle left, that Sordell, whatever his tribulations, isn't essentially fit.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:36 pm

Then you'd be right.

Extrapolate that thought.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:47 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Then you'd be right.

Extrapolate that thought.
I have done.

I'm resisting the obvious conclusion. It's too unpalatable.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:50 pm

I'll let that one go :wink:
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:14 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Sordell hasn't played consistently for a long time. For whatever reason he didn't play today. Perhaps the plan was to bring him on, then he had a tight hamstring or Dougie didn't feel the game would suit him or whatever. But I suspect the softly softly approach will help Sordell more than just chucking him in the deep end and seeing if he sinks or swims.

Given the amount of time he has spent not playing.

Might as well moan that Holden wasn't picked.
surely you're not saying Holden and Sordell are in some kind of equivalence in terms of their circumstances?? :conf:

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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:33 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Sordell hasn't played consistently for a long time. For whatever reason he didn't play today. Perhaps the plan was to bring him on, then he had a tight hamstring or Dougie didn't feel the game would suit him or whatever. But I suspect the softly softly approach will help Sordell more than just chucking him in the deep end and seeing if he sinks or swims.

Given the amount of time he has spent not playing.

Might as well moan that Holden wasn't picked.
surely you're not saying Holden and Sordell are in some kind of equivalence in terms of their circumstances?? :conf:
No, clearly not.

But neither are exactly battle hardened at the minute in terms of games, and perhaps two games in a week was considered too much.

Personally I think he left Sordell out as he felt we would at best be scraping a result out rather than being on the front foot much.

I'm surprised he didn't get him on with 20 to go, but perhaps there were reasons for that.

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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:43 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Sordell hasn't played consistently for a long time. For whatever reason he didn't play today. Perhaps the plan was to bring him on, then he had a tight hamstring or Dougie didn't feel the game would suit him or whatever. But I suspect the softly softly approach will help Sordell more than just chucking him in the deep end and seeing if he sinks or swims.

Given the amount of time he has spent not playing.

Might as well moan that Holden wasn't picked.
surely you're not saying Holden and Sordell are in some kind of equivalence in terms of their circumstances?? :conf:
No, clearly not.

But neither are exactly battle hardened at the minute in terms of games, and perhaps two games in a week was considered too much.

Personally I think he left Sordell out as he felt we would at best be scraping a result out rather than being on the front foot much.

I'm surprised he didn't get him on with 20 to go, but perhaps there were reasons for that.
Ngog is hardly battle hardened... nor is Craig Davies...

I'm sure there are reasons - and we probably don't know them... as I'm sure there were probably reasons for some of Coyle's selection puzzlers too... no?

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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:27 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:Then you'd be right.

Extrapolate that thought.
I have done.

I'm resisting the obvious conclusion. It's too unpalatable.
Sweet Jesus. What conspiracy theory are you two cooking up?
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:42 pm

Yeah, I don't really see what the conspiracy theory is either.

Freedman would have him in the team if that's what he thought gave us the best chance of winning, obviously.

Anyway, I did enjoy the "He tweets when wants. He tweets when he waaaaants. Marvin Sordell, he tweets when he wants" today.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:50 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:Then you'd be right.

Extrapolate that thought.
I have done.

I'm resisting the obvious conclusion. It's too unpalatable.
Sweet Jesus. What conspiracy theory are you two cooking up?
None.

My 'obvious conclusion' is that Freedman is a fecking clueless eejit.

I'd rather not draw that conclusion. So I'm avoiding thinking about it.
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Re: Freedman: I'm Helping Sordell

Post by a1 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:54 am

bobo the clown wrote: My 'obvious conclusion' is that Freedman is a fecking clueless eejit.
dunno what that sez about coyle re: sordell.

but its something , much , much worse.

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