Are we a good set of supporters?

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:22 pm

I've always felt ... certainly since the Reebok move ... the crowd need something to get wound up about before they start to show themselves. A poor refereeing decision, some Robbie Savage like twunk in the opposition or something like that. Until then we seem to simply be there to watch a game.

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:40 pm

Yep. I've noticed that the ref tends to spring the crowd into action more than the players.

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:48 am

I can't really comment for everybody, but I know I am a loyal supporter. Not sure if that makes me a good one.

I have had a season ticket for the last 16 consecutive years. Even with money being much tighter since my little girl was born, I have done my best to raise the money. Sometimes that has meant selling some of my personal belongings because I feel guilty taking from the "family pot" so to speak. I would rather spend any money that we bring in on my little girl.

One thing I have noticed this season and last, is that I'm not as excited when we score a goal. Not sure why

Maybe it's because we don't seem to be going anywhere so to speak. Maybe Coyle etc has drained the club in more ways than the obvious. I'm not sure, but it sure does make me feel bad to say that about the club I love. Maybe that makes me a bad supporter?

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:49 am

It means you're getting older

Like I said earlier, the match going supporters, and that's who we're talking about, have nowt to lose by being positive in their support, instead of a bit of backslapping that they're not fcuking negative!

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:07 am

ChrisC wrote: One thing I have noticed this season and last, is that I'm not as excited when we score a goal. Not sure why

Same. And I don't think it is anything to do (for me at least) with being older.

I think the thrill of the premiership and fighting above our station at times and every goal really mattering for 11 years means that however, much I try I can't get as excited now we're bumbling about towards the lower end of the league below.

Perhaps its because there are more games, or because it all feels like more of a slog than the premiership which even for average sides is usually punctuated with moments of brilliance (see Elmanders' goal at Wolves for example).

A win now feels less significant than a win in the premiership IMO.

One thing I do know is that the Blackpool game was pretty exciting and got me properly into the game. Nothing to do with the standard of football, just that the 90 minute knock-out thing felt more like a premiership game of all or nothing than a championship grind to me.

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:20 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:It means you're getting older

Like I said earlier, the match going supporters, and that's who we're talking about, have nowt to lose by being positive in their support, instead of a bit of backslapping that they're not fcuking negative!

I'm only 28

. If true, then I will be frozen in my seat when we score once I hit 40 at this rate!

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:30 am

If we score on the last day of the regular season to get into the play-offs, we'll all be f*cking dancing, my friend.

It's understandable not to leap over the floodlights when a goal might mean the difference between 18th and 17th (especially in a 24-team league). If we do slide up the table - or, conversely, if we are in or near the drop zone - you'll be celebrating every goal like hard currency.

LeverEnd · Post by **LeverEnd** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:50 am

I was feeling like that, but last season, when Eagles knocked in that late winner against Blackburn, it was almost like the old days.
My celebration of Ngog's equaliser against 'Boro was very muted though. More a case of 'at least we haven't lost again, but it's still not good enough'.
If we gain a bit of momentum under Dougie or the nest guy I'll get excited again I'm sure, like DSB says.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:01 am

DSB is right, though I have that "meh" reaction right now even when we score. Sort of 'so we fckg should' and 'not before time' going on. The tension, the expectation, the excitement have been squeezed out of ne and the football us all too often turgid.

It's that which I hold against DF. Not that we aren't top of the pile any more but that we are being served a diet of banality. Get games where we take it to the opposition and, win, lose or draw, it offers us something to cheer. If Blackpool means he's turned a corner then maybe I/we will to.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:41 am

bobo the clown wrote:DSB is right, though I have that "meh" reaction right now even when we score. Sort of 'so we fckg shoukd' and 'not before time' going on. The tension, the expectation, the excitement have been squeezed out of ne and the football us all too often turgid.

It's that which I hold against DF. Not that we aren't top of the pile any more but that we are being served a diet of banality. Get games where we take it to the opposition and, win, lose or draw, it offers us something to cheer. If Bkackpool means he's turned a corner then maybe I/we will to.

Often, recently, the meh reaction has been because our first goal has got the game back to 1-1, or 1-2...rather than put us 1-0 up. I think when our first goal puts us one up, we get a better reaction...

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:44 am

bobo the clown wrote:DSB is right, though I have that "meh" reaction right now even when we score. Sort of 'so we fckg should' and 'not before time' going on.

Sounds a bit like Stamford Bridge, except without the winning.

jonnycooper · Post by **jonnycooper** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:52 am

LeverEnd wrote:I was feeling like that, but last season, when Eagles knocked in that late winner against Blackburn, it was almost like the old days.
My celebration of Ngog's equaliser against 'Boro was very muted though. More a case of 'at least we haven't lost again, but it's still not good enough'.
If we gain a bit of momentum under Dougie or the nest guy I'll get excited again I'm sure, like DSB says.

I'm always excited when I'm the nest guy.!!

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:45 am

LeverEnd wrote:I was feeling like that, but last season, when Eagles knocked in that late winner against Blackburn, it was almost like the old days.
My celebration of Ngog's equaliser against 'Boro was very muted though. More a case of 'at least we haven't lost again, but it's still not good enough'.
If we gain a bit of momentum under Dougie or the nest guy I'll get excited again I'm sure, like DSB says.

The Blackburn game was something else

I nearly fell down two rows

That game is the only time I can remember losing it in recent seasons

LeverEnd · Post by **LeverEnd** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:24 pm

bobo the clown wrote:DSB is right, though I have that "meh" reaction right now even when we score. Sort of 'so we fckg should' and 'not before time' going on. The tension, the expectation, the excitement have been squeezed out of ne and the football us all too often turgid.

It's that which I hold against DF. Not that we aren't top of the pile any more but that we are being served a diet of banality. Get games where we take it to the opposition and, win, lose or draw, it offers us something to cheer. If Blackpool means he's turned a corner then maybe I/we will to.

Like Leicester away last season, blood and thunder, balls out football. Very rarely see that under Dougie. And we lost to a mistake by our unfit panic-loan fullback and a great hit from Schlupp. And I didn't really mind. It was far mpre exciting than some of our 'controlling without the ball' wins at home.

Gooner Girl · Post by **Gooner Girl** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:56 pm

From an outside point of view I'd say you are a good set of supporters, not many glory fans amongst you

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:40 pm

Gooner Girl wrote:From an outside point of view I'd say you are a good set of supporters, not many glory fans amongst you

Well, that's a fair comment !!

StaffsTrotter · Post by **StaffsTrotter** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:42 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
ChrisC wrote: One thing I have noticed this season and last, is that I'm not as excited when we score a goal. Not sure why

Same. And I don't think it is anything to do (for me at least) with being older.

I think the thrill of the premiership and fighting above our station at times and every goal really mattering for 11 years means that however, much I try I can't get as excited now we're bumbling about towards the lower end of the league below.

Perhaps its because there are more games, or because it all feels like more of a slog than the premiership which even for average sides is usually punctuated with moments of brilliance (see Elmanders' goal at Wolves for example).

A win now feels less significant than a win in the premiership IMO.
One thing I do know is that the Blackpool game was pretty exciting and got me properly into the game. Nothing to do with the standard of football, just that the 90 minute knock-out thing felt more like a premiership game of all or nothing than a championship grind to me.

agree with you all wrt being apathetic now even when we score

you did make me smile with that sentence BI - its true what you say, but given our win rate feels like it was in the prem, its ceratinly not because we are drowning in wins.

We've probably been spoilt in the last 20 years with always being involved in something at either end of a table. As has been commented the fire will return if it matters - just hope its not a relegation battle.

All a case of being educated into our new reality I guess

Barefoot Wanderer · Post by **Barefoot Wanderer** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:28 am

ChrisC wrote:I can't really comment for everybody, but I know I am a loyal supporter. Not sure if that makes me a good one.

I have had a season ticket for the last 16 consecutive years. Even with money being much tighter since my little girl was born, I have done my best to raise the money. Sometimes that has meant selling some of my personal belongings because I feel guilty taking from the "family pot" so to speak. I would rather spend any money that we bring in on my little girl.

One thing I have noticed this season and last, is that I'm not as excited when we score a goal. Not sure why

Maybe it's because we don't seem to be going anywhere so to speak. Maybe Coyle etc has drained the club in more ways than the obvious. I'm not sure, but it sure does make me feel bad to say that about the club I love. Maybe that makes me a bad supporter?

Excitable fans need to see some passion from the top floor down to the pitch - which means passion from Mr. Gartside, who is about as passionate a wet fish, passion from Mr. Freedman? I'm not too sure about that, but he waves his arms a lot

The players? ... maybe we're getting more from the players than we were in October which is why yesterdays atmosphere was an improvement...

see where we are in April, you never know

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:41 am

I've seen Gartside blamed for a lot of things, but that may just take the biscuit.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:04 pm

Prufrock wrote:I've seen Gartside blamed for a lot of things, but that may just take the biscuit.

He's stealing your biscuits now ????

He's a disgrace.