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Should we get rid of Owen Coyle?

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Re: Time to go

Post by thebish » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:28 pm

I believe eddie's stipulations are that there have to be at least 2 Davies's in the team or we have to pay it all back in a week...

this is why KD is playing and why MD is not for sale... it is also why we bought SD (Eddie allows spelling variations)

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Re: Time to go

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:24 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:...A trust can last for up to 120 years in some jurisdictions
So, put plainly ... by 2142 we fckd. Right !!
I think you'd be safer sticking to economics :mrgreen:
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Re: Time to go

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:50 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:...A trust can last for up to 120 years in some jurisdictions
So, put plainly ... by 2142 we fckd. Right !!
I think you'd be safer sticking to economics :mrgreen:
:oops: :oops:

Maybe we hang on, doing a Pompey, for 10 years or so.

I'll shut up now !! :oops: :oops:
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Re: Time to go

Post by Wandering Willy » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:37 pm

Reet - I gave myself a couple of days after Derby to avoid a knee jerk reaction.

I was feckin' livid when I saw that team sheet. 4-4-2 with KD up front. KD did not deserve to start at Burnley after a shit pre season, and certainly should have been nowhere near the starting line up against Derby.

Now KD has finally bagged one I fear we'll be seeing his name week in and week out. The goals will be sparse but his appearances will not be.

We dodged a bullet on Tuesday but we'll not keep winning with a 4-4-2 with Davies in.

I'm on the brink with this fellah now - get the right players out there in the right set up FFS.
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:52 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Reet - I gave myself a couple of days after Derby to avoid a knee jerk reaction.

I was feckin' livid when I saw that team sheet. 4-4-2 with KD up front. KD did not deserve to start at Burnley after a shit pre season, and certainly should have been nowhere near the starting line up against Derby.

Now KD has finally bagged one I fear we'll be seeing his name week in and week out. The goals will be sparse but his appearances will not be.

We dodged a bullet on Tuesday but we'll not keep winning with a 4-4-2 with Davies in.

I'm on the brink with this fellah now - get the right players out there in the right set up FFS.


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Re: Time to go

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:23 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I thought that was what BWFci was saying was said at the Fan's Forum?

And am I not right in saying that Bolton Wanderer's would have to pay tax on the money as income (rather than none at the moment, because its a loan) if the company is closed with the debt outstanding?
When BWFCI posted what Garty said, my initial thought was "that sounds carefully worded".

Why would they close the Company with the debt outstanding? If it's a Trust, it can remain in place for up to 120 years in some jurisdictions, or until the Terms of the Trust have been met. It has no obligation to make a profit and as it doesn't have to produce Accounts of any real meaning, so who knows what's in the box?....It's not like a proper Company. :-)
Where have you got this figure of 120 years from? Trusts do not have an automatic limitation/expiry period in the UK and indeed I can think of several active trusts that were set up earlier than 120 years ago.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:27 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I thought that was what BWFci was saying was said at the Fan's Forum?

And am I not right in saying that Bolton Wanderer's would have to pay tax on the money as income (rather than none at the moment, because its a loan) if the company is closed with the debt outstanding?
When BWFCI posted what Garty said, my initial thought was "that sounds carefully worded".

Why would they close the Company with the debt outstanding? If it's a Trust, it can remain in place for up to 120 years in some jurisdictions, or until the Terms of the Trust have been met. It has no obligation to make a profit and as it doesn't have to produce Accounts of any real meaning, so who knows what's in the box?....It's not like a proper Company. :-)
Where have you got this figure of 120 years from? Trusts do not have an automatic limitation/expiry period in the UK and indeed I can think of several active trusts that were set up earlier than 120 years ago.
Depends on the governing law in the location where the Trust is set up in. We're talking offshore trusts, so UK law isn't the Applicable Law. I'm struggling to think of any offshore jurisdictions that allow for more than 120 years, but happy to be corrected on that one.

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Re: Time to go

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:03 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Reet - I gave myself a couple of days after Derby to avoid a knee jerk reaction.

I was feckin' livid when I saw that team sheet. 4-4-2 with KD up front. KD did not deserve to start at Burnley after a shit pre season, and certainly should have been nowhere near the starting line up against Derby.

Now KD has finally bagged one I fear we'll be seeing his name week in and week out. The goals will be sparse but his appearances will not be.

We dodged a bullet on Tuesday but we'll not keep winning with a 4-4-2 with Davies in.

I'm on the brink with this fellah now - get the right players out there in the right set up FFS.
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Just to be clear here the plan to hit it long to Davies was deliberate and by instruction.

And doesn't seem to be any sign of us not doing that.

Fine if it works I suppose but for me we've built a team suited to playing in a different way, but are reverting to using Davies as a target man again.

Have to say confusion is the only way I can describe my feelings towards it.... :?

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Re: Time to go

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:11 pm

"Davies ... accepts the team are still trying to work out their best route of attack.

Wanderers were criticised in some quarters ... for playing too much direct football – but the captain argues that approach will bring results, if his team-mates can pick up the pieces around him".

Oh ...... My ..... God !!!
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Re: Time to go

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:33 pm

KD said rather than wrote:I think I’d won about 90 per cent of my headers
They're not much use if they go out for a throw in or you give 'em the ball back.
KD also bullshitted desperately rather than wrote:Maybe I could pull a few more down on my chest and play a bit more
You've been trying that for a few years now. You're not going to get any better.

Some will sing "Super Kev" though if you manage to poke one in in the next few weeks.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:38 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
KD said rather than wrote:I think I’d won about 90 per cent of my headers
They're not much use if they go out for a throw in or you give 'em the ball back.
KD also bullshitted desperately rather than wrote:Maybe I could pull a few more down on my chest and play a bit more
You've been trying that for a few years now. You're not going to get any better.

Some will sing "Super Kev" though if you manage to poke one in in the next few weeks.

He is our current top goalscorer! :-)

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Re: Time to go

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:40 pm

There's more chance of me poking one in in the next few weeks.

And it's been a while. :mrgreen:
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Re: Time to go

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:41 pm

Nowt wrong with supporting those on the pitch. It does nowt to catcall the folks who've been picked, whether it's Kev, Mixu or Ju Darby. If there's a problem with the manager, don't take it out on his selections.

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Re: Time to go

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:41 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:There's more chance of me poking one in in the next few weeks.

And it's been a while. :mrgreen:
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Re: Time to go

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:42 pm

Bet you those 10 internet pies.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:44 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Bet you those 10 internet pies.
I've scoffed the buggers.

And I might be lying.

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Re: Time to go

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:49 pm

It's not Kevin Davies' fault, that a) he is picked and b) Coyle has decided to revert to the Sam Allardyce method when we are actually in a league where we could possibly get somewhere playing football.

What frustrates me is that he seems to think you have to play direct in this league to get results.

My point to him would be, we might have had more joy doing this last season, when admittedly we had limited quality compared to plenty of the sides we had to play.

However as for the league we are in now we have some good quality especially attacking wise, it seems backwards to revert to a style we used to use to upset the big boys in the premiership once upon a time....

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Re: Time to go

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:59 pm

It's Kevin Davies's fault that he cannot run more than 10 feet, cannot trap a bag of sand and needs half an hour to find a team mate.
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Re: Time to go

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:07 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:It's Kevin Davies's fault that he cannot run more than 10 feet, cannot trap a bag of sand and needs half an hour to find a team mate.
All despite his ball-winning, linking up with Afobe (his chipped pass that put him thorough for a goal he should have scored), and contributing the dead-lock breaking goal himself? I can understand if you don't like KD, but surely that's over the top?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:08 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:It's Kevin Davies's fault that he cannot run more than 10 feet, cannot trap a bag of sand and needs half an hour to find a team mate.
Is it? Or is it age?

Will, I'd be as happy as most to see KD replaced by a younger, more mobile striker, who would fit in with a better style of football. But he keeps getting picked, and he's not going to decline the invitation, even if he's declining in mobility, ability and efficiency. Actually, there's a case to say his efficiency isn't on the wane, considering he's scored four in six... :D

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