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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:54 pm

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boltonboris wrote:He's right though. Dougie is being cut some slack for being as shit at getting enough wins as Coyle... But it's okay for him because he talks a cracking game. Magic wands and all kinds if stuff.
Is he feck right.

Coyle presided over a side getting weaker by the day. HIS side. That HE'D laughingly built.

Freedman has been here 5 minutes. Until he knows who will fit into his plans, who is and isn't up for it etc he's going to have to take a look at everyone. If you think he can take a team who have had a losing habit over the last 2 years and turn them into world beaters in less than a month, then you're extraordinarily naieve.
See now that's the sort of piss-weak excuse that just doesn't wash, when we've been beaten at home by a team managed by someone who has been in charge for all of '5 minutes' as well.
Or won at Blackburn who are managed by a guy who's been in charge for 5 minutes.
You STILL haven't answered my question you coward!
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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Wandering Willy wrote:Wonder why that was.
Because today he had the touch of a rapist. No other reason he just had a mare!
I really wish people would stop using that expression...
Agreed. And look, it coming from the man that spat his dummy out at my Cyril Smith joke. :roll:
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Oh you are agreed are you........
oops - you've been rumbled there, bruce!! :oops:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:02 pm

it's actually quite a canny strategy..

there are now only 6 clubs below us - so MOST of our games are gonna be against clubs ABOVE us - and they are (by definition) harder games - which kind of gives him a bit of leeway...

makes sense... don't knock it!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:35 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
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boltonboris wrote:He's right though. Dougie is being cut some slack for being as shit at getting enough wins as Coyle... But it's okay for him because he talks a cracking game. Magic wands and all kinds if stuff.
Is he feck right.

Coyle presided over a side getting weaker by the day. HIS side. That HE'D laughingly built.

Freedman has been here 5 minutes. Until he knows who will fit into his plans, who is and isn't up for it etc he's going to have to take a look at everyone. If you think he can take a team who have had a losing habit over the last 2 years and turn them into world beaters in less than a month, then you're extraordinarily naieve.
See now that's the sort of piss-weak excuse that just doesn't wash, when we've been beaten at home by a team managed by someone who has been in charge for all of '5 minutes' as well.
Or won at Blackburn who are managed by a guy who's been in charge for 5 minutes.
You STILL haven't answered my question you coward!
Never does. Maybe if we apply canaeston we could make him go away.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:38 pm

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oops - you've been rumbled there, bruce!! :oops:
I think I'm allowed to alter my opinion in two years. And let's face it, it takes a particularly sad c*nt to trawl back that far just to score a futile point. Oh! :shock:
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Prufrock » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:02 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Wonder why that was.

I'm guessing you didn't go. If today showed anything, anything at all, it showed that when KD doesn't play, and Eagles doesn't play well we have absolutely no goal threat at all.

N'Gog played ninety minutes, all up front. Didn't even come close to shooting never mind scoring. Kev didn't score but he came close at least thrice. I'd rather have a striker who looks like scoring. When that player is Kev you've got problems.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Prufrock » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:11 pm

PS, today was wank. I'm far from Dougie is shit, but there's no amount of 'tinkering about' excuses that can make that OK. If Mark Davies isn't a right winger, he certainly isn't a leftie. Nor is CYL. Our strength is in the gap between midfield and attack. Until January it should be Kev till the hour, N'Gog thereafter up top, solid back six, and hope the likes of Eagles, Mavies, Lee and the like can get us goals, then get what we can for N'Gog, Sordell and anyone else and get a proper striker.

Whatever, often justified, criticisms there are of Kev, every single one of our strikers is worse, by a long distance.

Ps. 4-4-2 is shit.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by football247 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:12 pm

Palace fan here

I thought he was doing alright for you guys but I see today hes gone back to his favourite tactic of all out defence with a 1-0 lead against shite teams.

He's a good manager for a bottom half side but I dont think he'll win enough games for Bolton wanting a quick return, I predict he'll be gone in a year.

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:34 pm

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:21 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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oops - you've been rumbled there, bruce!! :oops:
I think I'm allowed to alter my opinion in two years. And let's face it, it takes a particularly sad c*nt to trawl back that far just to score a futile point. Oh! :shock:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:47 am

BL3 wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He's right though. Dougie is being cut some slack for being as shit at getting enough wins as Coyle... But it's okay for him because he talks a cracking game. Magic wands and all kinds if stuff.
Is he feck right.

Coyle presided over a side getting weaker by the day. HIS side. That HE'D laughingly built.

Freedman has been here 5 minutes. Until he knows who will fit into his plans, who is and isn't up for it etc he's going to have to take a look at everyone. If you think he can take a team who have had a losing habit over the last 2 years and turn them into world beaters in less than a month, then you're extraordinarily naieve.
See now that's the sort of piss-weak excuse that just doesn't wash, when we've been beaten at home by a team managed by someone who has been in charge for all of '5 minutes' as well.
How come you got three years then?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:30 am

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Peter Thompson wrote:Freedman may not have ripped up any trees yet and has p*ssed me off today, but he's still an improvement on the previous guy in charge.
Why are you still comparing him to 'the previous guy in charge'? The choice wasn't to stick with Coyle or appoint Freedman, the choice was to appoint an experienced manager like Mick McCarthy, or a relative novice like Freedman. They've both had seven games in charge of their respective clubs and at this stage there's more chance of Ipswich making the play-offs than us.
I've had enough, I'll take whatever ban is necessary....

feck off BL3/Owen Coyle/Owen Coyle Junior/Fat Kit Man, you absolute nob!
Just add him into your foe list in the user control panel. You wont see his posts then.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:42 am

Why ignore him just because he has a different opinion? I have not read anything offensive from him, barmy maybe but no different that some regarding other matters.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:01 am

jaffka wrote:Why ignore him just because he has a different opinion? I have not read anything offensive from him, barmy maybe but no different that some regarding other matters.
Not because of a different opinion. Plenty of people drive me mad on here for one reason or another and I'm sure I drive plenty mad too. Difference is I generally don't find them rude, condescending and generally unpleasant. I wouldn't wish to speak to someone like that in person so why should I on here? Ignoring them is preferable to getting wound up by them surely? :conf:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:06 pm

Posts on here wind you up?

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:11 pm

jaffka wrote:Posts on here wind you up?
I refer you to the poster I was advising of the function. He seemed quite wound up to me.

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Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:00 pm

Posts on here wind him up? Why?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:20 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
jaffka wrote:Why ignore him just because he has a different opinion? I have not read anything offensive from him, barmy maybe but no different that some regarding other matters.
Not because of a different opinion. Plenty of people drive me mad on here for one reason or another and I'm sure I drive plenty mad too. Difference is I generally don't find them rude, condescending and generally unpleasant. I wouldn't wish to speak to someone like that in person so why should I on here? Ignoring them is preferable to getting wound up by them surely? :conf:
There is a matter of tone and respect. Most people on here are able to grasp that and whilst disagreeing still maintain recognition and respect. It's hard to respect the opinion of someone who appears to be shouting offensively a lot of the time and perhaps more importantly seems keen for the club we support to fail so he can have a nice rant about the new manager and call a few folk names. It's not a big deal though,I work with kids on the autistic spectrum so it's nothing new for me.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by thebish » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:35 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
jaffka wrote:Why ignore him just because he has a different opinion? I have not read anything offensive from him, barmy maybe but no different that some regarding other matters.
Not because of a different opinion. Plenty of people drive me mad on here for one reason or another and I'm sure I drive plenty mad too. Difference is I generally don't find them rude, condescending and generally unpleasant. I wouldn't wish to speak to someone like that in person so why should I on here? Ignoring them is preferable to getting wound up by them surely? :conf:
There is a matter of tone and respect. Most people on here are able to grasp that and whilst disagreeing still maintain recognition and respect. It's hard to respect the opinion of someone who appears to be shouting offensively a lot of the time and perhaps more importantly seems keen for the club we support to fail so he can have a nice rant about the new manager and call a few folk names. It's not a big deal though,I work with kids on the autistic spectrum so it's nothing new for me.
I'm not sure that's really true... BL3 seems a bit humourless and has a bit of a lack of grace and no obvious potential for self-effacement... but apart from the odd sarky response to someone abusing him - he's rarely offensive (unless you are offended by a view that is different to yours or swims against the stream...)

it's hard to read because it is a bit of an exaggerated parody - but quite a lot of what he writes is actually true. (and is now being written by others) it's also hard to read because it is so ubiquitous and endlessly repetitive...

he's certainly much less offensive than the replies he garners are...

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:44 pm

Biggest test of difference between our new manager and the last one is in learning. O.C was doggedly stubborn in his ways expecting some magical change to occur by persistence. His 4-4-2 was never going to work but he kept persisting. Yesterday the selection of both KD and N'gog up front was blatantly as wrong as Mark Davies on the left. One or the other front man (notice I don't say striker) with the benefit of subbing could have kept a decent 4-5-1 going and a stronger midfield. Afobe seems to offer nothing at all and with Homesick-blues still mystifying everybody, we were left with no shake of the dice to change much.

So K.D missed a couple of "chances", did any of their strikers put any away till the penalty? K.D buried one against Blckburn but I don't recall any prolific strikers doing that much against us this season. I seem to recall one direct "chance" finishing nearer the corner flag than the goals if the commentary was right yesterday. Point is, will our mistakes yesterday register and get anything done about them? I'd have to think, or at least hope, Douggie will have learned something and make the corrections. O.C just never did.
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