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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:21 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Kranjcar would be a great shout, he's looking for regular football, I think Owen be looking to take advantage of that type of player during the window, either that or the loan market
See, I'd say he was looking for 60k a week
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Prufrock » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:29 am

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TKIZ! wrote:Kranjcar would be a great shout, he's looking for regular football, I think Owen be looking to take advantage of that type of player during the window, either that or the loan market
See, I'd say he was looking for 60k a week
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by seanworth » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:55 am

What about Veloso?

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:03 am

seanworth wrote:What about Veloso?
Silly idea.

Although results seem to have improved recently, other than Holden in midfield (who I assume would be at risk - along with Moo - of losing his place if we got Veloso), and Petrov - either as starter or super-sub, we still have the same fecking

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by TKIZ! » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:37 am

Fair point about the wages CAPS. He'll want top dollar, I haven't seen him play so I don't know if he's as fat as being suggested :grin:
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by bristolwanderer » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:21 pm

Veloso is not worth the price tag that has been slapped on him, far better players in the championship we should be eyeing up.

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:42 pm

Palacios, £3m
Wheater, £3m
Some shithot fast midfielder that I can't think of £9m

Those prices might be unrealistic, but I wouldn't pay any more for either of them

I'd say a left back, but I can't think of any

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:14 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:Palacios
A worse passer of the ball I am yet to see. He'll fit right in. :?
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:16 pm

He's a decent defensive midfield battler short on confidence. Thrives on being a big fish in a small pond for me, not at them southern nancies. Get him in, build up his confidence, get ourselves a good squad defensive midfielder and competition for Fab.

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Prufrock » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:06 am

Eire_Trotter wrote:Carlos Vela(on loan)
David Wheater
Adel Taarabt
Luciano Becchio
How the feck did you get away with this?!

For me:

Jarvis- £6m
Bassong-£6m
Lansbury£3m
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:45 am

Prufrock wrote:
Eire_Trotter wrote:Carlos Vela(on loan)
David Wheater
Adel Taarabt
Luciano Becchio
How the feck did you get away with this?!

For me:

Jarvis- £6m
Bassong-£6m
Lansbury£3m
I agree. How anyone would think QPR will let Taraabt go for less than £15m, considering how London, deluded and arrogant they are, is beyond me.

Oh, and we'll not have £15 million to spend on players for a long time, regardless of who we sell, so the conversation's redundant.
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by seanworth » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:54 am

bristolwanderer wrote:Veloso is not worth the price tag that has been slapped on him, far better players in the championship we should be eyeing up.
Veloso is a bit of a joke on here from the Megson days. Better get used to it as his name will probably be raised again. :D

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Chobot » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:31 am

Hmmmm, this is a tough one...

My list would be more focused on bringing fresh talent to bolster our squad than to provide immediate starters, though these players could potentially become starters. I am a bit biased being a Korean and all ethnically. Also, it does go over the 15 mark a bit, but nothing that couldn't be lowered by selling players or waiting until we have more money.

Perhaps I've been too impressed with Chungy, but I would love it if we could get both Dragons [Apparently, Yong is the Korean word for Dragon and as you can see "Chung Yong" and "Sung Yong"] in Bolton and get back that Double Dragon combo that FC Seoul used.

1. Ki Sung Yong; £6-8 Mil
- Ki Sung Yong is an attack minded center midfielder who can play extremely well placed crosses and passes. We sign him and he'll be one of our main playmakers for sure. Not to mention his defensive abilities have been steadily improving in a physical and perhaps brutish SPL. He's been of great form of late and he's a freekick specialist. And he's a year younger than Chungy. I feel the two would have really good chemistry on the pitch seeing as they played together since the FC Seoul days and play together on the national team. Only problem is, I doubt Celtic would sell for less than 8 mil. I feel he has more potential than Stuart Holden and I daresay more ability. He could contribute a decent amount defensively, but that has been Muamba's strong point anyway. The two would make a great pair in the center midfield. [Speculating 6-8 mil for the lad from Celtic; Part of that can be paid by selling Sean Davies, Tamir Cohen, Mark Davies or Holden]

2. A Young Winger (Alexis Sanchez, Eden Hazard, Nicolás Lodeiro, Lee Seung-Ryul, Sotiris Ninis, Arda Turan, Tony Krus, André Ayew); Anywhere from 2.1 to an excess of 20, depending on the player [Never know with these young players.]
- We need to replace our aging wingers with some fresh faces. Martin Petrov only has a few years left and Matt Taylor is old too. Lee Chung Yong seems to be only real young player (under 25) in the winger department. Another winger with pace, potential, and ability like Chungy would be a dream and can you imagine watching the Wanderers with so many attacking options?! (Drool) There is some risk with these youth players, but if they're not yet ready for the Premier League, we can loan them to lesser Premier League, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, or Championship Teams. However, I reckon these players could give Petrov, Lee, and Taylor some tough competition for that starting spot either right away or in a year or two.

3. Either A Young Striker or A Young Defender (Striker: Son Heung Min, Yoo Byung-Soo; Defender: Joel Matip, Tommy Smith)
Son Heung-Min is rated to become the next Franz Muller after scoring a prolific 9 goals in the preseaons (a notable winner against Chelsea). After recovering from a 2 month metatarsal fracture from the Chelsea game, he sparked interest by scoring 3 goals in 5 games and became the youngest HSV player to score a goal in the Bundesliga. Only 18 years old, the signing could be either really expensive or around average. A great addition to an aging Striker department [Although we do have 3-4 Youth Prospects like Tope, Danny, Tom]. He has shown great potential and I feel he's been tested enough to know he's a real gem to have. [Hamburg intends to hold onto him, but we may be able to entice a loan and once he shows how great he is, we'll dish out the cash. Otherwise anywhere from 4-10 in my book]

Yoo Byung-Soo is the current lead scorer of the K-League, a title usually held by a Brazilian or another South American import. He has matured greatly in one of the most prolific strikers ever produced by Korean at the young age of 22. Although he remains largely untested in terms of European competition, I have a feeling that he may become one of the Korean national team's top strikers along with Son Heung-Min. He is not well known outside of Korea and has had only 1 national team appearance at the end of a match. Remember, this league is the same league that Lee Chung Yong came out of and Chungy had gotten top assists in this League (Though Chungy was determined early on to be a great player and played with the National side's U-17, U-23, etc. and Yoo has not). He definitely is somewhat of a risky signing, but will come extremely cheap with his obscurity and Korean clubs willingness to export a Korean player to a European league no matter the price. The same age as Chungy, this signing could be either a hit or a miss (recalling the fate of a similar Korean striker Lee Dong Gook, joined Middlesbrough and had a decent run, but nothing spectacular. Dong Gook was noted for his lack of work ethic and earned the nickname "The Lazy Genius," by the Korean press. He later got the top scorers in the K-League in 2009, a year after leaving Middlesbrough). However, I feel Yoo exemplifies that classic Korean work ethic that Chungy and Park Ji Sung has. He trains and works hard. After seeing his growth from his 2009 to 2010 season (14 to 23 goals), I feel like he could shine in the European leagues. [0.5-2mil]

A Defensive prospect like Cahill would be nice. I expect Joel Matip and Tommy Smith to be bargain signings if we try to get them early on. [Maybe 1-6 mil]

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by RobbieSavagesLeg » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:08 am

Wow.
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:16 am

Chobot wrote:Hmmmm, this is a tough one...

My list would be more focused on bringing fresh talent to bolster our squad than to provide immediate starters, though these players could potentially become starters. I am a bit biased being a Korean and all ethnically. Also, it does go over the 15 mark a bit, but nothing that couldn't be lowered by selling players or waiting until we have more money.

Perhaps I've been too impressed with Chungy, but I would love it if we could get both Dragons [Apparently, Yong is the Korean word for Dragon and as you can see "Chung Yong" and "Sung Yong"] in Bolton and get back that Double Dragon combo that FC Seoul used.

1. Ki Sung Yong; £6-8 Mil
- Ki Sung Yong is an attack minded center midfielder who can play extremely well placed crosses and passes. We sign him and he'll be one of our main playmakers for sure. Not to mention his defensive abilities have been steadily improving in a physical and perhaps brutish SPL. He's been of great form of late and he's a freekick specialist. And he's a year younger than Chungy. I feel the two would have really good chemistry on the pitch seeing as they played together since the FC Seoul days and play together on the national team. Only problem is, I doubt Celtic would sell for less than 8 mil. I feel he has more potential than Stuart Holden and I daresay more ability. He could contribute a decent amount defensively, but that has been Muamba's strong point anyway. The two would make a great pair in the center midfield. [Speculating 6-8 mil for the lad from Celtic; Part of that can be paid by selling Sean Davies, Tamir Cohen, Mark Davies or Holden]

2. A Young Winger (Alexis Sanchez, Eden Hazard, Nicolás Lodeiro, Lee Seung-Ryul, Sotiris Ninis, Arda Turan, Tony Krus, André Ayew); Anywhere from 2.1 to an excess of 20, depending on the player [Never know with these young players.]
- We need to replace our aging wingers with some fresh faces. Martin Petrov only has a few years left and Matt Taylor is old too. Lee Chung Yong seems to be only real young player (under 25) in the winger department. Another winger with pace, potential, and ability like Chungy would be a dream and can you imagine watching the Wanderers with so many attacking options?! (Drool) There is some risk with these youth players, but if they're not yet ready for the Premier League, we can loan them to lesser Premier League, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, or Championship Teams. However, I reckon these players could give Petrov, Lee, and Taylor some tough competition for that starting spot either right away or in a year or two.

3. Either A Young Striker or A Young Defender (Striker: Son Heung Min, Yoo Byung-Soo; Defender: Joel Matip, Tommy Smith)
Son Heung-Min is rated to become the next Franz Muller after scoring a prolific 9 goals in the preseaons (a notable winner against Chelsea). After recovering from a 2 month metatarsal fracture from the Chelsea game, he sparked interest by scoring 3 goals in 5 games and became the youngest HSV player to score a goal in the Bundesliga. Only 18 years old, the signing could be either really expensive or around average. A great addition to an aging Striker department [Although we do have 3-4 Youth Prospects like Tope, Danny, Tom]. He has shown great potential and I feel he's been tested enough to know he's a real gem to have. [Hamburg intends to hold onto him, but we may be able to entice a loan and once he shows how great he is, we'll dish out the cash. Otherwise anywhere from 4-10 in my book]

Yoo Byung-Soo is the current lead scorer of the K-League, a title usually held by a Brazilian or another South American import. He has matured greatly in one of the most prolific strikers ever produced by Korean at the young age of 22. Although he remains largely untested in terms of European competition, I have a feeling that he may become one of the Korean national team's top strikers along with Son Heung-Min. He is not well known outside of Korea and has had only 1 national team appearance at the end of a match. Remember, this league is the same league that Lee Chung Yong came out of and Chungy had gotten top assists in this League (Though Chungy was determined early on to be a great player and played with the National side's U-17, U-23, etc. and Yoo has not). He definitely is somewhat of a risky signing, but will come extremely cheap with his obscurity and Korean clubs willingness to export a Korean player to a European league no matter the price. The same age as Chungy, this signing could be either a hit or a miss (recalling the fate of a similar Korean striker Lee Dong Gook, joined Middlesbrough and had a decent run, but nothing spectacular. Dong Gook was noted for his lack of work ethic and earned the nickname "The Lazy Genius," by the Korean press. He later got the top scorers in the K-League in 2009, a year after leaving Middlesbrough). However, I feel Yoo exemplifies that classic Korean work ethic that Chungy and Park Ji Sung has. He trains and works hard. After seeing his growth from his 2009 to 2010 season (14 to 23 goals), I feel like he could shine in the European leagues. [0.5-2mil]

A Defensive prospect like Cahill would be nice. I expect Joel Matip and Tommy Smith to be bargain signings if we try to get them early on. [Maybe 1-6 mil]
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by seanworth » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:57 am

A lot of work indeed. Cheers for that.

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:29 am

Chobot wrote:Hmmmm, this is a tough one...

My list would be more focused on bringing fresh talent to bolster our squad than to provide immediate starters, though these players could potentially become starters. I am a bit biased being a Korean and all ethnically. Also, it does go over the 15 mark a bit, but nothing that couldn't be lowered by selling players or waiting until we have more money.

Perhaps I've been too impressed with Chungy, but I would love it if we could get both Dragons [Apparently, Yong is the Korean word for Dragon and as you can see "Chung Yong" and "Sung Yong"] in Bolton and get back that Double Dragon combo that FC Seoul used.

1. Ki Sung Yong; £6-8 Mil
- Ki Sung Yong is an attack minded center midfielder who can play extremely well placed crosses and passes. We sign him and he'll be one of our main playmakers for sure. Not to mention his defensive abilities have been steadily improving in a physical and perhaps brutish SPL. He's been of great form of late and he's a freekick specialist. And he's a year younger than Chungy. I feel the two would have really good chemistry on the pitch seeing as they played together since the FC Seoul days and play together on the national team. Only problem is, I doubt Celtic would sell for less than 8 mil. I feel he has more potential than Stuart Holden and I daresay more ability. He could contribute a decent amount defensively, but that has been Muamba's strong point anyway. The two would make a great pair in the center midfield. [Speculating 6-8 mil for the lad from Celtic; Part of that can be paid by selling Sean Davies, Tamir Cohen, Mark Davies or Holden]

2. A Young Winger (Alexis Sanchez, Eden Hazard, Nicolás Lodeiro, Lee Seung-Ryul, Sotiris Ninis, Arda Turan, Tony Krus, André Ayew); Anywhere from 2.1 to an excess of 20, depending on the player [Never know with these young players.]
- We need to replace our aging wingers with some fresh faces. Martin Petrov only has a few years left and Matt Taylor is old too. Lee Chung Yong seems to be only real young player (under 25) in the winger department. Another winger with pace, potential, and ability like Chungy would be a dream and can you imagine watching the Wanderers with so many attacking options?! (Drool) There is some risk with these youth players, but if they're not yet ready for the Premier League, we can loan them to lesser Premier League, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, or Championship Teams. However, I reckon these players could give Petrov, Lee, and Taylor some tough competition for that starting spot either right away or in a year or two.

3. Either A Young Striker or A Young Defender (Striker: Son Heung Min, Yoo Byung-Soo; Defender: Joel Matip, Tommy Smith)
Son Heung-Min is rated to become the next Franz Muller after scoring a prolific 9 goals in the preseaons (a notable winner against Chelsea). After recovering from a 2 month metatarsal fracture from the Chelsea game, he sparked interest by scoring 3 goals in 5 games and became the youngest HSV player to score a goal in the Bundesliga. Only 18 years old, the signing could be either really expensive or around average. A great addition to an aging Striker department [Although we do have 3-4 Youth Prospects like Tope, Danny, Tom]. He has shown great potential and I feel he's been tested enough to know he's a real gem to have. [Hamburg intends to hold onto him, but we may be able to entice a loan and once he shows how great he is, we'll dish out the cash. Otherwise anywhere from 4-10 in my book]

Yoo Byung-Soo is the current lead scorer of the K-League, a title usually held by a Brazilian or another South American import. He has matured greatly in one of the most prolific strikers ever produced by Korean at the young age of 22. Although he remains largely untested in terms of European competition, I have a feeling that he may become one of the Korean national team's top strikers along with Son Heung-Min. He is not well known outside of Korea and has had only 1 national team appearance at the end of a match. Remember, this league is the same league that Lee Chung Yong came out of and Chungy had gotten top assists in this League (Though Chungy was determined early on to be a great player and played with the National side's U-17, U-23, etc. and Yoo has not). He definitely is somewhat of a risky signing, but will come extremely cheap with his obscurity and Korean clubs willingness to export a Korean player to a European league no matter the price. The same age as Chungy, this signing could be either a hit or a miss (recalling the fate of a similar Korean striker Lee Dong Gook, joined Middlesbrough and had a decent run, but nothing spectacular. Dong Gook was noted for his lack of work ethic and earned the nickname "The Lazy Genius," by the Korean press. He later got the top scorers in the K-League in 2009, a year after leaving Middlesbrough). However, I feel Yoo exemplifies that classic Korean work ethic that Chungy and Park Ji Sung has. He trains and works hard. After seeing his growth from his 2009 to 2010 season (14 to 23 goals), I feel like he could shine in the European leagues. [0.5-2mil]

A Defensive prospect like Cahill would be nice. I expect Joel Matip and Tommy Smith to be bargain signings if we try to get them early on. [Maybe 1-6 mil]
Eden Hazard is one of the best talents ive seen in a long time! However i think his future lies with the barcelona's and real madrid's of the world rather than bolton..we can dream though :mrgreen:

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by Hoboh » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:57 pm

Keane for an out going Mandy thats what I'd go for and look to develope some of our defenders, into, well, defenders

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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:48 pm

Similar to Kranjcar I don't think we could afford his wages chief.
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Re: £15 million on 3 players who do you buy?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:34 am

Jesus there is some nonsense on here.

Keane? How much is he going to cost then?

An ageing player who will command a serious fee and an even more serious weekly wedge, EXACTLY the sort of player we WON'T be going anywhere near.

Coyle has spelled out the future and its younger players. Look for more like Holden/Alonso/Rodrigo that you've never heard of. That'll be what happens, with perhaps the odd free/bargain older more experienced signing in the Petrov mould.

Robbie Keane pah!

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