Fortress Reebok?

[seanworth]

Yeah, I mean if my dad hadn't taken me to Mariners games when I was four or five I might have adopted a different baseball team instead of one that has had one good pitcher in the last twenty years and has zero chance of winning the World Series in my lifetime . . .

. . . I forgot what point I was making.

Haven't watched baseball in a long long time but assume you are referring to Randy Johnson. Now he was scary to watch pitch.

Just ask the bird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R-IJ1DOVRg

What can I say.

Did remember control wasn't his strong point when with Seattle. Something much improved upon later in his career.

Actually he began his career with the Montreal Expos and we traded him for Mark Langston. This did not turn our to be a shrewd move.

The Expos traded away quite a bit of talent over the years.

[Bruce Rioja]

Err - Fortress Reebok, not Rounders thank-you, gentlemen.

[seanworth]

Err - Fortress Reebok, not Rounders thank-you, gentlemen.

Quit being such an old square.

[Bruce Rioja]

Err - Fortress Reebok, not Rounders thank-you, gentlemen.

Quit being such an old square.

Yes well, I suppose the type of atmosphere generated inside the stadium is of no concern to some.

[Gaz Tomorrow]

Exactly. People can't be arsed anymore. It's natural. The Premier League is approaching the end of it's cycle of being a massive spectator sport. Results driven, overpaid players who have no common ground with the fans in the 'cheap' seats. In our case a decade in the top fligh.. It's getting a bit same old, same old.

Feck all anybody can do about it, it's just more convenient to stay at home. And a damn sight cheaper.

Got to agree with this.

I went to the first game this season £26 for a ticket I can cope with. The problems start with all the other costs involved, Costs me £20 in fuel to get there, £6 in to park. £3 for a programme' beer was reasonable at the Mega bowl 4 pints for a £10 but it still cost (half that cost as I shared it with a mate) Subway lunch was £4 then add £10 for a bet and £2 for a half time drink and a £1 for the golden gamble and thats the day up to over £70 might not sound a lot but do that twice a month and thats £140. I watched in the legion yesterday and beer cost me £20 and that was all I had to pay out.

I hate to say it but for me £20 vs £70 wins everytime and the atmosphere at the Bok for the first game was the worst I have experienced since we lost at home to Bury! I didnt mind sitting on a room on my own shouting at the tv screen compared to that!

It is a problem across all leagues but the premier league seems to be particularly hard hit. I know this is not on the same scale but my local club is Exeter City and we go reasonably often. The ticket prices for students have virtually doubled since last season, yet they still pull in 6/7 thousand and the stadium capacity is just short of 8 thousand. This is obviously smaller scale and its different because Exeter's largest share holder is the fans but still. The main difference i would say is the geography, the nearest team that (has been) bigger is Plymouth, and Exeter and Plymouth hate each other so much.

[seanworth]

Err - Fortress Reebok, not Rounders thank-you, gentlemen.

Quit being such an old square.

Yes well, I suppose the type of atmosphere generated inside the stadium is of no concern to some.

Rounders.......square.........round......square.........geometric shapes

I know not exactly the wittiest of comments but I was just trying to pick up the atmosphere somewhat.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

You are a diamond, Sean...

[seanworth]

You are a diamond, Sean...

O.k. that's one strike.

[TKIZ!]

The point of this thread was to ascertain ,why the Reebok is so quiet. I'm not having the fact that we take our kids as an excuse,if that was the case surely all the other grounds would have the same problem! When i go to a match, i actively encourage my son's to get behind our team ...only to glance around and people are glaring at them for doing so. It seems all you're allowed to do is sit there and clap
So , my answer to the question is this, the majority that go to watch Bolton simply can't be bothered to go to watch and make noise,they'd rather just clap politely for the duration of ninety minutes. This is in my humble opinion of course.

im all for noise, but if I were to jump up and try to join in with a chant thats coming from the NSL or under the scoreboard to get it going around me, i would look and and feel a total fookin bellend! you see people try it now and again then quickly sit down ashamed, either that or start shouting "get behind yer team yer bunch of miserable shithouses!" you generally never see them again. nobody is arsed these days, so these days neither am I.

save it for the away days when everyones drunk!

Spot on,that's the feeling i get too

Me too. The opposite end of the ESL near the North Stand is stuck in between the numpties with the drums and the NSL and ESL corner competing about who gets a chant started

yep thats my spot too.

Maybe I've sat near to you then?

[Lord Kangana]

What was Jimmy saying about stalkers?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

What was Jimmy saying about stalkers?

Dont think it can't happen to you, LK

[Armchair Wanderer]

The point of this thread was to ascertain ,why the Reebok is so quiet. I'm not having the fact that we take our kids as an excuse,if that was the case surely all the other grounds would have the same problem! When i go to a match, i actively encourage my son's to get behind our team ...only to glance around and people are glaring at them for doing so. It seems all you're allowed to do is sit there and clap
So , my answer to the question is this, the majority that go to watch Bolton simply can't be bothered to go to watch and make noise,they'd rather just clap politely for the duration of ninety minutes. This is in my humble opinion of course.

im all for noise, but if I were to jump up and try to join in with a chant thats coming from the NSL or under the scoreboard to get it going around me, i would look and and feel a total fookin bellend! you see people try it now and again then quickly sit down ashamed, either that or start shouting "get behind yer team yer bunch of miserable shithouses!" you generally never see them again. nobody is arsed these days, so these days neither am I.

save it for the away days when everyones drunk!

Spot on,that's the feeling i get too

+1

[as]

What was Jimmy saying about stalkers?

Dont think it can't happen to you, LK

Sir Nut and his owd man are looking for him as we speak.

Stay lucky

[TKIZ!]

What was Jimmy saying about stalkers?

Dont think it can't happen to you, LK

Sir Nut and his owd man are looking for him as we speak.

Stay lucky

[H. Pedersen]

Back on topic re: atmosphere, I'll just go ahead and say it, I can understand why people wouldn't want to sing or chant because you can't fully focus on the game at hand. I've watched football all around the world and there are always people who are paying more attention to their song/flag/banner/drums/vuvuzela than they are to the actual game they've paid for. I guess I like the idea of traditional football atmosphere but when some guy is shouting ignorant comments in my ear or some group of Brazilians is pounding on drums hypnotically for 90 minutes I feel like I might enjoy the silence more.

Perhaps it's because we don't have the singing tradition in America, but I'd rather, you know, watch the game.

[Sir Nut]

What was Jimmy saying about stalkers?

Dont think it can't happen to you, LK

Sir Nut and his owd man are looking for him as we speak.

Stay lucky

Id never find you would i, you never go to the bloody games. Either that or you sit behind an invisible roof support post.

[Sir Nut]

Back on topic re: atmosphere, I'll just go ahead and say it, I can understand why people wouldn't want to sing or chant because you can't fully focus on the game at hand. I've watched football all around the world and there are always people who are paying more attention to their song/flag/banner/drums/vuvuzela than they are to the actual game they've paid for. I guess I like the idea of traditional football atmosphere but when some guy is shouting ignorant comments in my ear or some group of Brazilians is pounding on drums hypnotically for 90 minutes I feel like I might enjoy the silence more.

Perhaps it's because we don't have the singing tradition in America, but I'd rather, you know, watch the game.

The Atmosphere and Passion is what makes/made the premiership special, i remember the days where you could stand up and sing your heart with everyone joining in, nowadays at the Reebok you stand up and sing and they look at you like you've just raped their mother. The only experiences iv had in the past 10 years where we have sung all the way through the game are the Arsenal at home game where we was getting beat (Electric) and Boro away when we needed to win. other times have been decent but them 2 fixtures is what Atmosphere is all about.

Its not hard to sing and watch the game at the same time...........

[hisroyalgingerness]

The Sun were looking today at the games Rooney could play in, because bless his cottons he's expected to get a bit of banter from the crowds.

Had this to say about the Reebok

Not the most intimidating ground in the Premier League. Away fans likely to outnumber home fans, so he'll be ok here.

What happened to the cauldron of hate eh?

[BWFC_Insane]

The Sun were looking today at the games Rooney could play in, because bless his cottons he's expected to get a bit of banter from the crowds.

Had this to say about the Reebok

Not the most intimidating ground in the Premier League. Away fans likely to outnumber home fans, so he'll be ok here.

What happened to the cauldron of hate eh?

Don't know. Perhaps thats at Goodison?

Because it was never ever at the Reebok, other than directed at our own.

[Tombwfc]

Arsenal at home, Jens Lehmann-era. Spawned the Alan Davies article which HRG is talking about (IIRC).

Other than that, you're right though.