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I was wrong

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:06 pm

On first viewing I thought we'd got ourselves a new Gudjohnsen

Clearly, I had it wrong

Elmander has pace Eidur could only dream of having


Sell him for 3 million?

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Post by FaninOz » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:09 pm

Agreed he has finally shown what skill he has plus a significant amount of effort and commitment all over the pitch. Keep him and give him another contract, BUT he may not want one as his agent may now believe that he will be picked up by a much "bigger" club.

I hope that he recognises what Coyle has done for him and does the right thing and takes a new contract with us.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:38 pm

Given that interview where he commented about this manager encouraging, rather than constantly shouting in his face, I'm hopeful that he will stay...

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:43 pm

I wish I could be bothered going into the archives to dig out some of the crap people wrote about Elmander.
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Post by officer_dibble » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:19 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I wish I could be bothered going into the archives to dig out some of the crap people wrote about Elmander.
You don't have to look hard.

I slated Elmander last year, mainly cos i stuck my neck out in an article before the start of the season and said he would come good, and he didn't.

He's a class act, and Coyle is clearly getting the best out of him. I hope he signs a new deal and continues the form after Christmas......

But in the same respect I can't really find fault with people being critical of his first two seasons, looks like it were down to the manager though and how he used him. We were wrong, and yet right in a way at the time.

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Post by SonsOfThunder » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:30 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I wish I could be bothered going into the archives to dig out some of the crap people wrote about Elmander.
Just check the Harry Kewell thread. :mrgreen:

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Post by Eire_Trotter » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:35 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I wish I could be bothered going into the archives to dig out some of the crap people wrote about Elmander.
You don't have to look hard.

I slated Elmander last year, mainly cos i stuck my neck out in an article before the start of the season and said he would come good, and he didn't.

He's a class act, and Coyle is clearly getting the best out of him. I hope he signs a new deal and continues the form after Christmas......

But in the same respect I can't really find fault with people being critical of his first two seasons, looks like it were down to the manager though and how he used him. We were wrong, and yet right in a way at the time.
I also slated him last year, albeit not on this site as I was not a member at the time. But evry week I took stick about him from all my mates, which are mostly Unireh supporters and he just frustrated me but this year I love him :D . Lets hope he stays till the end of the season at least.

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Post by HMX » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:46 pm

I have the yellow away shirt from a couple(?) of seasons ago with his name and number on the back. My support started when he signed for us and I believed he would turn good - I could tell he did have quality. Took a lot of stick from a friend for that support but look at him now. My favourite player (ever?). Haha

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:54 pm

Think you also have to take account that there were quite a few saying he was playing poorly as opposed to being a poor player...

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Post by HMX » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:02 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Think you also have to take account that there were quite a few saying he was playing poorly as opposed to being a poor player...
Touche, I didn't quite point that out but I still had the belief 8)

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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:17 pm

I'll hold my hand up and say I've slated him in the past but that doesn't mean that I don't think he's a great player now. Football fans are entitled to be fickle, it's why we support the team we do :D
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Post by getraw » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:08 pm

Elmander has only recently come good ie in the goal scoring stakes. If I'm being honest, it's hard not to have criticised Elmander in the past as he hasn't been effective up front. We paid an awful lot of money for him and he wasn't scoring goals. A willing runner he was and still is, quite decent at link up play but he just couldn't bag. Since Coyle has come in charge, and especially so this season he is bagging. He's full of confidence and looking like the striker we paid for and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:19 pm

getraw wrote:Elmander has only recently come good ie in the goal scoring stakes. If I'm being honest, it's hard not to have criticised Elmander in the past as he hasn't been effective up front. We paid an awful lot of money for him and he wasn't scoring goals. A willing runner he was and still is, quite decent at link up play but he just couldn't bag. Since Coyle has come in charge, and especially so this season he is bagging. He's full of confidence and looking like the striker we paid for and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
Absolutely. Having a wanker shout into your face that "I've paid a lot of money for you, therefore I expect.." and having a guy nurture the best out of your undoubted talent are polar opposites!
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Post by getraw » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:41 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
getraw wrote:Elmander has only recently come good ie in the goal scoring stakes. If I'm being honest, it's hard not to have criticised Elmander in the past as he hasn't been effective up front. We paid an awful lot of money for him and he wasn't scoring goals. A willing runner he was and still is, quite decent at link up play but he just couldn't bag. Since Coyle has come in charge, and especially so this season he is bagging. He's full of confidence and looking like the striker we paid for and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
Absolutely. Having a wanker shout into your face that "I've paid a lot of money for you, therefore I expect.." and having a guy nurture the best out of your undoubted talent are polar opposites!
You're right, the change in management has had a massive effect on him but I was just trying to point out that it's all well and good saying "I told you so" regarding Elmander coming good but there is a time and place for criticism. I don't agree with all the vitriolic bile that some people have come out describing Elmander's performances, in the past, but the man was not showing enough of his "undoubted talent".
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Post by General Mannerheim » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:46 pm

i was always a believer 8)

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:55 pm

I've gone through the whole range of emotions with Elmander.

I watched him in those early pre-season games after he signed and agreed with Caps at the time that he looked a better version of Gudjohnsen and one of the most exciting players I'd seen play for us.

Then he started the season scored in his first game and I was convinced we'd replaced Anelka well.

Then next game he was injured and struggled but hit form just before Christmas in the North East and I was sure he'd go on from there. But he didn't and I lost faith with him last season especially in the first 18 games where I just never felt he'd adapt to the English game.

Once Coyle came in I saw a player transformed and even though he wasn't scoring I could see how much work he put in and the tremendous qualities he had.

He's been outstanding this season and I hope so much he stays. If we have to sell Cahill and Habsi to finance a deal to keep Elmander then do it.

We can live without Cahill and certainly Habsi is a waste currently with our situation. To get someone who can do what Elmo did at Wolves we're probably talking doubling our record fee and we all know we couldn't get even half way to that. He needs to stay he's probably the most critical player alongside Kev and behind Holden to how we play right now.

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Post by Athers » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:12 pm

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:20 pm

We're £96m in debt. Its all well and good saying sign him up, he conned a living for over 2/3rds his stay here, so he owes us this for that massive fee. He's a professional, I'd be out of a job if I was costing a company that much and producing nowt.

Only took 2 1/2 years to say "I told you so". Of a 3 year contract. Have a think about that.
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Re: I was wrong

Post by H. Pedersen » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:On first viewing I thought we'd got ourselves a new Gudjohnsen

Clearly, I had it wrong

Elmander has pace Eidur could only dream of having


Sell him for 3 million?

Give your heads a shake
Thank goodness your beloved Megson got the sack, otherwise Elmander would still be playing like shit and you wouldn't be able to post sanctimonious stuff like this.

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Post by Odelay » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:25 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:We're £96m in debt. Its all well and good saying sign him up, he conned a living for over 2/3rds his stay here, so he owes us this for that massive fee. He's a professional, I'd be out of a job if I was costing a company that much and producing nowt.

Only took 2 1/2 years to say "I told you so". Of a 3 year contract. Have a think about that.

And it had nothing to do with the gobshite of a manager we had before?

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