Lies, damn lies

[Jakerbeef]

and er, this interesting statistic.

Man Utd
Berbatov - 14
Hernandez - 5

Man City
Tevez - 12
Balotelli - 5

Bolton
Elmander - 9
Davies - 7

So apparently we've the 3rd best striker-partnership in the prem. Though 5 of Berbatov's goals came in the game Blackburn rolled over for, so maybe a few of those shouldn't count.

[Eire_Trotter]

and er, this interesting statistic.

Man Utd
Berbatov - 14
Hernandez - 5

Man City
Tevez - 12
Balotelli - 5

Bolton
Elmander - 9
Davies - 7

So apparently we've the 3rd best striker-partnership in the prem. Though 5 of Berbatov's goals came in the game Blackburn rolled over for, so maybe a few of those shouldn't count.

Suppose thats something we should be happy about.

[thebish]

and er, this interesting statistic.

Man Utd
Berbatov - 14
Hernandez - 5

Man City
Tevez - 12
Balotelli - 5

Bolton
Elmander - 9
Davies - 7

So apparently we've the 3rd best striker-partnership in the prem. Though 5 of Berbatov's goals came in the game Blackburn rolled over for, so maybe a few of those shouldn't count.

and two of Elmo's came in the game where West Ham rolled over - t'would only be fair to chalk those off

[SonsOfThunder]

and er, this interesting statistic.

Man Utd
Berbatov - 14
Hernandez - 5

Man City
Tevez - 12
Balotelli - 5

Bolton
Elmander - 9
Davies - 7

So apparently we've the 3rd best striker-partnership in the prem. Though 5 of Berbatov's goals came in the game Blackburn rolled over for, so maybe a few of those shouldn't count.

and two of Elmo's came in the game where West Ham rolled over - t'would only be fair to chalk those off

They already have been. The Wolves goal counted for three, you see..

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

...and IIRC Jussi has made the third-highest number of saves. With honourable mentions for Muamba/Holden's well-documented league-topping tackle-rate and a certain Gary Cahill (most defensive blocks in the top flight, 21, pre-Anfield), we've been getting it right in the very important bits at both end of the pitch. Hence the perhaps slightly inflated league position: we'll find it harder if Elmo/SKD stop scoring, Moo/Stu stop tackling, Cahill stops blocking or Jussi stops stopping.

Obvious, of course, and you can also argue that they're (near the) top because they're best, but I'm just saying: fine margins, folks, fine margins.

[BWFC_Insane]

...and IIRC Jussi has made the third-highest number of saves. With honourable mentions for Muamba/Holden's well-documented league-topping tackle-rate and a certain Gary Cahill (most defensive blocks in the top flight, 21, pre-Anfield), we've been getting it right in the very important bits at both end of the pitch. Hence the perhaps slightly inflated league position: we'll find it harder if Elmo/SKD stop scoring, Moo/Stu stop tackling, Cahill stops blocking or Jussi stops stopping.

Obvious, of course, and you can also argue that they're (near the) top because they're best, but I'm just saying: fine margins, folks, fine margins.

Really? I thought he was too old and shite?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Link to Sky story on Opta stats here. Interestingly, they have us as the "team with most fouls" (committed? Presumably) - not sure who collated the Telegraph stats I was reading last night...

Stats can differ wildly - for example PA Sport, who provide stats for the official Barclays Premier League press releases (and therefrom the Cahill-top-blocking stat I gave you), have Robert Green topping the "Saves Made" stat with 113 prior to West Ham hosting Wolves - to tally with Opta on the link above, he must have made -62 saves against the Dogheads... and they still couldn't score...

[Bruce Rioja]

...and IIRC Jussi has made the third-highest number of saves.

Possibly linked to other keepers collecting crosses rather than dealing with the resultant shot though, no?

[CAPSLOCK]

More obviously linked to only 2 keepers making more saves, yes?

[hisroyalgingerness]

Possibly linked to a shit, porous defence leaking more shots, maybe?

[Lord Kangana]

If shit defences get us 7th, I vote for shit defences.

[Bruce Rioja]

More obviously linked to only 2 keepers making more saves, yes?

Yes, but why? I think I've possibly gone some way to explaining!

[Tombwfc]

If we're explaining it, lets list all the shots saved by Jussi that have come as a direct result of a cross he could/should have claimed...

They'd have been good saves.

[Bruce Rioja]

If we're explaining it, lets list all the shots saved by Jussi that have come as a direct result of a cross he could/should have claimed...

They'd have been good saves.

Go on then. You'll be at it a while.

[Armchair Wanderer]

Link to Sky story on Opta stats here. Interestingly, they have us as the "team with most fouls" (committed? Presumably) - not sure who collated the Telegraph stats I was reading last night...

Stats can differ wildly - for example PA Sport, who provide stats for the official Barclays Premier League press releases (and therefrom the Cahill-top-blocking stat I gave you), have Robert Green topping the "Saves Made" stat with 113 prior to West Ham hosting Wolves - to tally with Opta on the link above, he must have made -62 saves against the Dogheads... and they still couldn't score...

I've been wondering how they get all the stats, especially the more detailed ones. Do they have one or more people pitchside plugging data into a spreadsheet? Or does a computer analyse the video footage and figure it all out using some very clever software?

One of the games I went to this year at the end of the game the BBC said we had about 59% possession, then the next day it had dropped to 40 something. Makes me think that they work it out and if it looks wrong they just change it to a number that looks more righter.

[Tombwfc]

If we're explaining it, lets list all the shots saved by Jussi that have come as a direct result of a cross he could/should have claimed...

They'd have been good saves.

Go on then. You'll be at it a while.

I was hoping you'd start us off...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I've been wondering how they get all the stats, especially the more detailed ones. Do they have one or more people pitchside plugging data into a spreadsheet?

Yes, it's manual. What a job that is.

[Lofthouse Lower]

Must take all the fun out of it

[Bruno3]

I've been wondering how they get all the stats, especially the more detailed ones. Do they have one or more people pitchside plugging data into a spreadsheet?

Yes, it's manual. What a job that is.

Yeah, makes your wrist ache

[norm the jedi]

...and IIRC Jussi has made the third-highest number of saves .

Not bad considering he had a three week mid season break after the Birmingham bitch slappery and the boy Bogdan was on coconut shy duty at
The emirates amongst others...