Chung Yong Lee - The stats

[TKIZ!]

Does anyone know where I could find out what our win percentage is with him in and out of the side? Last night I know he wasn't on the pitch when we scored but we certainly looked better going forward.

Also did anyone else notice how the decision to take him off was boo'd? Do some of the fans not realise how many miles the lad has flown back just to even get back in time?

[Lofthouse Lower]

I think it was more to do with being disappointed that our only creative spark was being taken off, rather than any lack of understanding about his match-fitness. In defence of Coyle I thought Lee was looking tired after the hour mark, and would have taken him off myself too. Get him back raring to go for weekend when I've no doubt he'll play the full game.

That said, our fans are very prone to booing - there was some in the stands at HT and there were even some at HT in the fecking FA Cup. Wankers

[thebish]

Does anyone know where I could find out what our win percentage is with him in and out of the side?

the most reliable way is to send Worthy...

[ebby]

the boo'ing does my nut in, we've performed above expectations for half the season, then been on a bad run of 5 or 6 games and people are unhappy...it feels like going back to the old regime at times!

but yeah just having chungy on for the 1st 45 you could tell straight away down the right wing that there was always potential for something to happen

[TKIZ!]

Does anyone know where I could find out what our win percentage is with him in and out of the side?

the most reliable way is to send Worthy...

Cheers Bish will do. Having only watched the game on the tinterweb I have to say that the negative reaction is beginning to seep into our fans way, way to much. Lee looked knackered and was rightly taken off

[Latham8wfc]

the boo'ing does my nut in, we've performed above expectations for half the season, then been on a bad run of 5 or 6 games and people are unhappy...it feels like going back to the old regime at times!

but yeah just having chungy on for the 1st 45 you could tell straight away down the right wing that there was always potential for something to happen

I agree pointless boo'ing and something I never do, I am critical because they earn massive wages etc and they sometimes deserve to be criticised. However I think the boo'ing was more to do with the fact Chungy our most dangerous attacking player was being taken off and Elmo and Davies who were useless were still on the pitch, thats what the majority of people around me were annoyed at. But as you say don't want to get back to Mugson days.....

[aussie_wanderer]

tv commentators said chung yong was quiet. i disagree, his classy touchs and being able to dribble and keep posession are vital for us. hes become our most important player.

[thebish]

tv commentators said chung yong was quiet. i disagree, his classy touchs and being able to dribble and keep posession are vital for us. hes become our most important player.

mauybe not saying THAT much - but he featured somewhere in just about all of our highlights while he was on the pitch..

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it was more to do with being disappointed that our only creative spark was being taken off, rather than any lack of understanding about his match-fitness. In defence of Coyle I thought Lee was looking tired after the hour mark, and would have taken him off myself too. Get him back raring to go for weekend when I've no doubt he'll play the full game.

That said, our fans are very prone to booing - there was some in the stands at HT and there were even some at HT in the fecking FA Cup. Wankers

Did you say the same when Megson was here? Because if you did fair play but I suspect you did not.

Which makes you a hypocrite.

Booing has no place for me, especially when the team is clearly struggling for confidence a bit. Neither does abusing your own players verbally, one guy stood up and yelled abuse every time Taylor or Ricketts touched the ball. Hardly going to help is it?

[Lofthouse Lower]

I was a booer then, but I've since learned. The Megson era brought out the worst in me and led to booing. I don't regret it but I don't do it any more.

Our fans have been wankers long before Megson came and went.

[chlrkd86]

The game from bolton wasnt doing well right after lee and taylor were taken off, I would say 3 points from last night was a big lucky.

[Lord Kangana]

Megson is a bell though.

And on topic, CYL is a class act. Even after his marathon run of games in the last few years, you can still see he's a very talented footballer. I still maintain that one day he will end up at Arsenal. I certainly think he's got what it takes to play for a Champions League Club™.

[wanderbeam]

The booing when he replaced Chung was ridiculous. Anyone who thought he would play 90 minutes last night, even if he was perhaps the brightest spark on the pitch, would have been deluded. We probably did quite well to get 67 minutes out of him.

I think the point maybe about booing Megson's substitutions, comes down to the fact when we perhaps needed to chase the game, he simply sat back and put a defensive midfielder on (McCann). There was no need to boo the Lee substitution last night. It wasn't as if Coyle put a defensive player on, both his changes were attacking. Yes, perhaps he should have brought Davies or someone else off, but that doesn't mean boo. If the subs don't work out, as he tried to change the game, then maybe you can vent a bit of anger, but not while you've not seen what his subs or what he's trying to do. Have a bit more faith. He wants to win every game. He's not going to just sit back. Absolutely mindless booing.

[BWFC_Insane]

The booing when he replaced Chung was ridiculous. Anyone who thought he would play 90 minutes last night, even if he was perhaps the brightest spark on the pitch, would have been deluded. We probably did quite well to get 67 minutes out of him.

I think the point maybe about booing Megson's substitutions, comes down to the fact when we perhaps needed to chase the game, he simply sat back and put a defensive midfielder on (McCann). There was no need to boo the Lee substitution last night. It wasn't as if Coyle put a defensive player on, both his changes were attacking. Yes, perhaps he should have brought Davies or someone else off, but that doesn't mean boo. If the subs don't work out, as he tried to change the game, then maybe you can vent a bit of anger, but not while you've not seen what his subs or what he's trying to do. Have a bit more faith. He wants to win every game. He's not going to just sit back. Absolutely mindless booing.

You can't justify booing for one thing and not another.

You either say "ok booing fair enough if you don't agree" or "booing is out of order and unhelpful".

Folk booed last night because they disagreed with the (correct imo) decision to take LCY off. However, Coyle made the call and did so trying his best to get the best result.

Folk booed the Megson decisions because they didn't like him and didn't agree with the decisions he made sometimes. But again he was still a BWFC representative and doing his best for the club and as such the booing only went to hurt the team.

What has happened IMO is that since Megson and lots of folk deciding that abusing players, booing and generally being a tit all game is fair game whenever the team is not firing on all cylinders (and sometimes even when they are) a precedent has been set. Whenever we have a bad run folk will abuse the team, boo the players and I heard a lot of Coyle abuse being yelled last night during the second half.

Thats whats happened as far as I'm concerned. Its modern football fanitis, no patience and no view of the bigger picture.

There has always been an element of abuse and booing. But it used to be more good humoured and self depracating than it is now. Elmander was given abuse during a pre-season game at Rochdale this season. During pre fooking season. He's our top scorer now and still gets called every name under the sun from the stands. Discuss his merits/failings by all means but shouting swear words at him when he's going through a lean spell, but still clearly running himself into the ground to anyone who has eyes, just ain't helpful!

[Lofthouse Lower]

Which stand do you sit in, out of interest?

[BWFC_Insane]

Which stand do you sit in, out of interest?

Same one as you do. Though thinking of moving to North Lower!

[Lofthouse Lower]

whyever would you want to do that?

[Worthy4England]

whyever would you want to do that?

Because we're less chavvy?

[boltonboris]

We could be top of the league 23 points clear, but if we're not beating somebody at home at half-time our dickhead fans would boo

[hisroyalgingerness]

It was the Corrie tram crash - not this bloody Manager of the Month curse of CYL going on his jolls - we settled this