Will Bolton throw the City game to get into Europe?

Il Pirate · Post by **Il Pirate** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:43 pm

win and we get f all...........lose and we get into europe (theoreticaly speaking should x,y&z happen). I can see Klasnic nicking a 93rd minute equaliser

truewhite15 · Post by **truewhite15** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:54 pm

Moot point, cos we're gonna win the cup. Plus, as has been said, this is a very specific and probably unlikely scenario.

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:04 pm

I agree its unlikely, but I wonder if there's ever been a game before, in the history of football, where a team is better off losing than winning?

Gary the Enfield · Post by **Gary the Enfield** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:30 pm

darrren1 wrote:I agree its unlikely, but I wonder if there's ever been a game before, in the history of football, where a team is better off losing than winning?

City won't be in the final. City won't be able to get enough points to get 4th place on the final day as they'll be adrift of the top four by at least 4 points.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:48 pm

That kind of scenario can happen over here. I am quite certain some teams do not try hard in a final game or games to either eliminate an opponent from the playoffs in favour of a weaker one, or to get a higher draft pick. However, I don't think any manager or player would publicly admit the fact, or they would be subject to massive fines for bringing the game into disrepute. In answer to the original question I would prefer to lose to City if it meant ensuring Europe. However since we will beat Stole and the scum will eliminate Citeh, the question will not arise and we will destroy Citeh in the final game.

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:54 pm

Chungy in net, Muamba up front. Elmander as the dominant centre half. SKD at left back. Cahill on the bench coz he'd be passable anywhere.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:45 pm

Has there ever been any confirmation of this actually being what would happen?

Gary the Enfield · Post by **Gary the Enfield** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:50 pm

Tombwfc wrote:Has there ever been any confirmation of this actually being what would happen?

I'll tell you in June.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:23 pm

Shows how far we've come when City fans are worrying about us two months in advance.

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:49 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Shows how far we've come when City fans are worrying about us two months in advance.

Im not a City fan. Just a fan of conspiracy theories and strange football matches where both teams want the same outcome!

TKIZ! · Post by **TKIZ!** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:05 am

Ahhh so a ManUre fan then?

Lofthouse Lower · Post by **Lofthouse Lower** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:05 am

darrren1 wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Shows how far we've come when City fans are worrying about us two months in advance.
Im not a City fan. Just a fan of conspiracy theories and strange football matches where both teams want the same outcome!

Such as?

I'd say you were just a shit stirrer, personally

david lee's bald patch · Post by **david lee's bald patch** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:28 pm

If City win the FA cup but finish outside of top 4 in 5th say they will have qualified for Europa league by two methods and therefore would the second qualifying spot go to losing finalist in the cup or to the next highest placed team in the league?

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:35 pm

david lee's bald patch wrote:If City win the FA cup but finish outside of top 4 in 5th say they will have qualified for Europa league by two methods and therefore would the second qualifying spot go to losing finalist in the cup or to the next highest placed team in the league?

No one really knows for sure.
Including the powers that be at UEFA, the Premier League and The FA.
I think basically they all just assume that Liverpool will scweam and scweam and scweam until they are sthick because they're not in it so they'll give the qualification to them.

It's quick, it's fair, it's easy.

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:09 pm

david lee's bald patch wrote:If City win the FA cup but finish outside of top 4 in 5th say they will have qualified for Europa league by two methods and therefore would the second qualifying spot go to losing finalist in the cup or to the next highest placed team in the league?

As far as the Europa League positions are concerned, the FA Cup position takes precedance over the league one. So if Man.City win the FA Cup and come 5th, they will qualify via the FA Cup. This is why if Bolton lose to City in the final, they will want them to come in the top 4.

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:10 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Ahhh so a ManUre fan then?

Say what you like about me, but never ever call me that again!!!

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:12 pm

Lofthouse Lower wrote:
darrren1 wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Shows how far we've come when City fans are worrying about us two months in advance.
Im not a City fan. Just a fan of conspiracy theories and strange football matches where both teams want the same outcome!
Such as?

I'd say you were just a shit stirrer, personally

Such as? Such as this one obviously. It's a pretty unusual situation you have to admit. It's hardly shit stirring - just wondered if Bolton fans were aware of this scenario and what they would make of it. That's all.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:17 pm

Strange you've still not nailed your colours to the mast yet, don't you think?

darrren1 · Post by **darrren1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:21 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:Strange you've still not nailed your colours to the mast yet, don't you think?

Hmm, well ok. Lets just say I support one of the two teams that stand to lose out from this scenario. But I dont mind, I actually want it to happen - just for pure entertainment reasons.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:23 pm

darrren1 wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:Strange you've still not nailed your colours to the mast yet, don't you think?
Hmm, well ok. Lets just say I support one of the two teams that stand to lose out from this scenario. But I dont mind, I actually want it to happen - just for pure entertainment reasons.

So your colour would be red then, no?

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