Worst Away record in League
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Worst Away record in League
Yes, we've managed to be the worst away team this season. 11 points on our travels, Wolves just in front on 12.
What's so different, that we can't get a result away. 2 wins at Wolves and West ham is just not good enough. I cannot see how we win at Wigan, Fulham and Brum in cup, and be so poor in League.
Do we play the wrong tactics, are we just not good enough. This needs sorting before next season or we will be in a relegation fight from the off, I just hope we can do as well at home as this season.
What's so different, that we can't get a result away. 2 wins at Wolves and West ham is just not good enough. I cannot see how we win at Wigan, Fulham and Brum in cup, and be so poor in League.
Do we play the wrong tactics, are we just not good enough. This needs sorting before next season or we will be in a relegation fight from the off, I just hope we can do as well at home as this season.
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Just playing 4-4-2 away from home puts a massive strain on the team and especially when two of three midfielders are crocked
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Yes playing 4 4 2 away puts pressure on team, then the manager has it wrong then by playing wrong tactics.TKIZ! wrote:Just playing 4-4-2 away from home puts a massive strain on the team and especially when two of three midfielders are crocked
Also the record of 2 wins is all season, so injuries to midfielders is not a reasonable excuse. they've not been injured all season.
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It deosn't help that we only have 3 decent midfielders. And whilst we're paying Sean Davis to sit on his arse (on probably a good contract, being a free signing) Coyle's hands have been tied trying to get more in. That and Tamir Cohen (bless his cotton socks) is just really not that good.
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It doesn't help that time after fecking time we play 4-4-2 away from home when its very evident that we don't have the skill, quality or mobility in midfield to do it. First world war general mentality.Lord Kangana wrote:It deosn't help that we only have 3 decent midfielders. And whilst we're paying Sean Davis to sit on his arse (on probably a good contract, being a free signing) Coyle's hands have been tied trying to get more in. That and Tamir Cohen (bless his cotton socks) is just really not that good.
Just keep going out and doing the same things and getting fooking dicked on week in week out. Not much fun for us at £35 a go!
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Why isn't someone like Vela or Connloy even on the bench?
But yeah worst away record in the league...at least it's very evident it's a problem now, be interesting whether Coyle acknowledges it and does something about it.
But yeah worst away record in the league...at least it's very evident it's a problem now, be interesting whether Coyle acknowledges it and does something about it.
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It may happen against Citeh, they've pretty much got C/L stitched up so it's not like they got much to play for either. Expect Cahill to have a stormer next weekofficer_dibble wrote:Why isn't someone like Vela or Connloy even on the bench?
But yeah worst away record in the league...at least it's very evident it's a problem now, be interesting whether Coyle acknowledges it and does something about it.
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we're paying stuart holden to do the same. and ricketts.Lord Kangana wrote:It deosn't help that we only have 3 decent midfielders. And whilst we're paying Sean Davis to sit on his arse (on probably a good contract, being a free signing) Coyle's hands have been tied trying to get more in. That and Tamir Cohen (bless his cotton socks) is just really not that good.
we even pay petrov to do it on the pitch.
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Erm they sit on the bench because they are injureda1 wrote:we're paying stuart holden to do the same. and ricketts.Lord Kangana wrote:It deosn't help that we only have 3 decent midfielders. And whilst we're paying Sean Davis to sit on his arse (on probably a good contract, being a free signing) Coyle's hands have been tied trying to get more in. That and Tamir Cohen (bless his cotton socks) is just really not that good.
we even pay petrov to do it on the pitch.
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is sean davis not ?TKIZ! wrote: Erm they sit on the bench because they are injured
well get him in the first team yesterday.
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I do think there are some problems with how we set up away from home but we've shown in the cup that we can get results away from home.
Personally, I think the loss to Stuart Holden is the biggest reason for our failure because he's the one midfielder who can retain the ball under pressure, play the right passes, come short for the defenders. Our problem away tends to be the amount of time and space the opposition have on the ball running at our (crap) defence.
That doesn't excuse away performances earlier in the season, but we've kind of been unlucky in that a lot of winnable away games (Fulham, Blackburn, Birmingham, Blackpool) have all come after Holden's injury.
Bad timing. Although there problems with the way we play too, all our away form shouldn't be just based on whether one person is fit or not.
Personally, I think the loss to Stuart Holden is the biggest reason for our failure because he's the one midfielder who can retain the ball under pressure, play the right passes, come short for the defenders. Our problem away tends to be the amount of time and space the opposition have on the ball running at our (crap) defence.
That doesn't excuse away performances earlier in the season, but we've kind of been unlucky in that a lot of winnable away games (Fulham, Blackburn, Birmingham, Blackpool) have all come after Holden's injury.
Bad timing. Although there problems with the way we play too, all our away form shouldn't be just based on whether one person is fit or not.
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He didn't at Burnley.officer_dibble wrote:But yeah worst away record in the league...at least it's very evident it's a problem now, be interesting whether Coyle acknowledges it and does something about it.
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well yeah but he left them after half a premier league season
being officially the worst team away from home in the league....thats a definite, no glossing over that.
Owen knows, he will try to rectify it this summer.
being officially the worst team away from home in the league....thats a definite, no glossing over that.
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Some real glass half empty types in here.
So what if our away form is the worst in the league? We've got the 6th best home form after United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Arsenal.
No one is banging on about that though.
I suppose in an ideal world if we'd have lost say 5 more games at home but won 5 more away then everyone would be happy. We'd still have exactly the same points but there wouldn't be a problem because at least we're not bottom of the away league table?
Fck me, Coyle is getting the basics right, starting with our home form.
So what if our away form is the worst in the league? We've got the 6th best home form after United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Arsenal.
No one is banging on about that though.
I suppose in an ideal world if we'd have lost say 5 more games at home but won 5 more away then everyone would be happy. We'd still have exactly the same points but there wouldn't be a problem because at least we're not bottom of the away league table?
Fck me, Coyle is getting the basics right, starting with our home form.
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Yes we have the 6th best home record, but with a better away record we could have got that European slot that seems to be the aim ?? I know that the total points is the aim, and we can look at home games we've been lucky to win and away games we've unlucky to lose, but something is wrong with our tactics away from home and alot of money is spent travelling all over the country to watch abysmal performances.CrazyHorse wrote:Some real glass half empty types in here.
So what if our away form is the worst in the league? We've got the 6th best home form after United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Arsenal.
No one is banging on about that though.
I suppose in an ideal world if we'd have lost say 5 more games at home but won 5 more away then everyone would be happy. We'd still have exactly the same points but there wouldn't be a problem because at least we're not bottom of the away league table?
Fck me, Coyle is getting the basics right, starting with our home form.
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We'd have all liked Europe. But it's clear we're not ready for that yet given how we've fallen to pieces over the last handful of games.Turkish Trotter wrote:Yes we have the 6th best home record, but with a better away record we could have got that European slot that seems to be the aim ?? I know that the total points is the aim, and we can look at home games we've been lucky to win and away games we've unlucky to lose, but something is wrong with our tactics away from home and alot of money is spent travelling all over the country to watch abysmal performances.
Look, I see what you're saying-our away form is dreadful-but all things considered we've really not got too much to complain about this season.
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I agree that we aint ready for europe, and pre season would have been happy with were we are.CrazyHorse wrote:We'd have all liked Europe. But it's clear we're not ready for that yet given how we've fallen to pieces over the last handful of games.Turkish Trotter wrote:Yes we have the 6th best home record, but with a better away record we could have got that European slot that seems to be the aim ?? I know that the total points is the aim, and we can look at home games we've been lucky to win and away games we've unlucky to lose, but something is wrong with our tactics away from home and alot of money is spent travelling all over the country to watch abysmal performances.
Look, I see what you're saying-our away form is dreadful-but all things considered we've really not got too much to complain about this season.
I just think that a slight change of tactics away would benefit us.
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What he saidCrazyHorse wrote:Some real glass half empty types in here.
So what if our away form is the worst in the league? We've got the 6th best home form after United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Arsenal.
No one is banging on about that though.
I suppose in an ideal world if we'd have lost say 5 more games at home but won 5 more away then everyone would be happy. We'd still have exactly the same points but there wouldn't be a problem because at least we're not bottom of the away league table?
Fck me, Coyle is getting the basics right, starting with our home form.
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I don't think 4-4-2 helps. We're playing a style of football now (by that i mean November era) which is much more dynamic and 4-4-2 just doesn't cut it for me.
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we better not turn into wba under mowbray or similar.
"they play good football (but lose 4-0 every week)" *head pat* *token platitude, but not really bothered 'bout 'em* style comments from folk.
i think i'd be sick. sammy lee redux nightmares.
"they play good football (but lose 4-0 every week)" *head pat* *token platitude, but not really bothered 'bout 'em* style comments from folk.
i think i'd be sick. sammy lee redux nightmares.
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