Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Where fellow sufferers gather to share the pain, longing and unrequited transfer requests that make being a Wanderer what it is...

Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em

Lofthouse Lower
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7416
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:08 pm

Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:33 pm

Shady corporate deals at BWFC

http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-a ... um=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Answers please, Phil

User avatar
Worthy4England
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 32758
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:41 pm

Oh do feck off. We can strategically place a few around our 18 Yard Box, when we play the DMB's.

Top move by Garty.

User avatar
Dave Sutton's barnet
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 28832
Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 4:00 pm
Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation
Contact:

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:46 pm

Leaves a bad taste but that's business. I doubt Real Madrid ended the shirt sponsorship deal with Siemens 'cos somebody pointed out they made the gas chambers at Belsen. I'd be surprised and delighted if BWFC (and for that matter Richard McCormick) only put their money in banks, pension schemes and financial schemes which specifically avoid unethical investment. They're quite hard to come by. See Mark Thomas passim for how deeply involved these distasteful industries are in the fiscal mainstream. This country's glorious leader has been storming round the world drumming up arms sales, and lest that be deemed partisan, the other lot were just as keen.

There are few easy options.

Lord Kangana
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 15355
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:42 pm
Location: Vagantes numquam erramus

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:50 pm

Just a smokescreen to cover the real scandal at the 'Bok if you ask me.
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.

User avatar
Prufrock
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 24104
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:52 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Leaves a bad taste but that's business. I doubt Real Madrid ended the shirt sponsorship deal with Siemens 'cos somebody pointed out they made the gas chambers at Belsen. I'd be surprised and delighted if BWFC (and for that matter Richard McCormick) only put their money in banks, pension schemes and financial schemes which specifically avoid unethical investment. They're quite hard to come by. See Mark Thomas passim for how deeply involved these distasteful industries are in the fiscal mainstream. This country's glorious leader has been storming round the world drumming up arms sales, and lest that be deemed partisan, the other lot were just as keen.

There are few easy options.

In fairness I think Real Madrid would end it if Siemens were still making gas chambers, which that article seems to imply this lot are doing with land mines.

Very uncool IMO.
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

Lord Kangana
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 15355
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:42 pm
Location: Vagantes numquam erramus

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:54 pm

I thought that was AEG and IG Farben anyhoo?
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.

Verbal
Icon
Icon
Posts: 5834
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:11 am
Location: Silly London

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Verbal » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:56 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Leaves a bad taste but that's business. I doubt Real Madrid ended the shirt sponsorship deal with Siemens 'cos somebody pointed out they made the gas chambers at Belsen.
Yes but isn't the landmine division currently active? Don't think Belsen has been particularly busy for 60 years or so..

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I'd be surprised and delighted if BWFC (and for that matter Richard McCormick) only put their money in banks, pension schemes and financial schemes which specifically avoid unethical investment. They're quite hard to come by. See Mark Thomas passim for how deeply involved these distasteful industries are in the fiscal mainstream. This country's glorious leader has been storming round the world drumming up arms sales, and lest that be deemed partisan, the other lot were just as keen.

There are few easy options.
Yes it is difficult, but surely it doesn't do much good for the corporate image of BWFC. I mean it was only last year that the BWFC community trust was doing charity cycle rides for injured war veterans...
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."

User avatar
Dave Sutton's barnet
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 28832
Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 4:00 pm
Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation
Contact:

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:57 pm

I take it you bank with the Co-Op. Good for you. Excellent phone banking too.

User avatar
Prufrock
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 24104
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:02 am

Probably not, but then we don't have a team of people whose entire job is to make sure the things we do look good in a media spotlight. I think I can morally square keeping my few pennies in a bank which may or may not do terrible, unethical things, whilst I spend most of my time earning said pennies, and the rest sleeping/killing myself slowly with legal drugs. I'm not sure a multi-million pound business with people employed specifically for PR, with researchers involved, in a relatively large financial deal either not doing their homework, or worse, letting it slide is a similar cirlce. Landmines are some nasty shit yo.

PS have a good holidaiz.
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

User avatar
Bruce Rioja
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38742
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:08 am

Internet bookies on the shirt? landmine manufacturers on the hoardings? Bovril the temperature of boiling oil? Whatever next? :|
May the bridges I burn light your way

User avatar
TANGODANCER
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 43357
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:35 pm
Location: Between the Regency and the Rubaiyat and forever trying to light penny candles from stars.

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:10 am

I doubt the munitions department of this company have anything to do with this deal. They're just one of a massive amount of worldwide companies making armaments. If the market's there, the products will sustain it. If there were no wars nobody would make weapons. Unfortunately, there are. Money has never had any moral boundaries. These figures seem to be five years old:

It is estimated that yearly, over 1.5 trillion dollars are spent on military expenditures worldwide (2.7% of World GDP).[1] Part of this goes to the procurement of military hardware and services from the military industry. The combined arms sales of the top 100 largest arms producing companies amounted to an estimated $315 billion in 2006.[2] In 2004 over $30 billion were spent in the international arms trade (a figure that excludes domestic sales of arms)
Si Deus pro nobis, quis contra nos?

Lord Kangana
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 15355
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:42 pm
Location: Vagantes numquam erramus

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:26 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Internet bookies on the shirt? landmine manufacturers on the hoardings? Bovril the temperature of boiling oil? Whatever next? :|
Is the Bovril one purely hypothetical?
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.

Verbal
Icon
Icon
Posts: 5834
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:11 am
Location: Silly London

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Verbal » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:29 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Internet bookies on the shirt? landmine manufacturers on the hoardings? Bovril the temperature of boiling oil? Whatever next? :|
Zat Knight signing a new contract.
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."

jimbo_bwfc
Reliable
Reliable
Posts: 544
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 4:26 pm

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by jimbo_bwfc » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:32 am

Wait till The Nipple Shop milks it and claims we're affecting their corporate image.
http://www.twitter.com/jderbyshirebwfc

"Like putting a tiara on a shirehorse"

User avatar
Worthy4England
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 32758
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:44 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Just a smokescreen to cover the real scandal at the 'Bok if you ask me.
Doesn't Eddie D make pop-up toasters? We all know the problems they could cause if sold to hotel chains...Bobo might get his brekkers on time.

Lord Kangana
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 15355
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:42 pm
Location: Vagantes numquam erramus

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:47 am

Hotels are expensive things to replace you know.
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.

User avatar
Hoboh
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 13352
Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 8:19 am

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:29 am

Hopewe are getting a good deal off them, whats a few mines? some people were more than happy when Gaddafi was going to buy us for his son!!! look where that would have left us now.............
Anyway a lot of multinationals have dodgy skeletons if you look long or far enough back. Take the money!!

jaffka
Legend
Legend
Posts: 8439
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:36 pm
Location: uk

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by jaffka » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:36 am

quite useful landmines in some scenarios

ohjimmyjimmy
Icon
Icon
Posts: 4108
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:13 am
Location: The House of Fun (it's quicker if you run)

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:44 am

How outraged you are will depend on how badly you want that star striker on the extra 10 grand a week, i suppose.

midnitefooty
Promising
Promising
Posts: 325
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:34 pm
Location: Seoul

Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by midnitefooty » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:15 am

I think you'll find a lot of companies have a "dark side" to them. Once you start trying to pick and choose, you're not going to end up with much.

Is child labour an issue for you? A lot of chocolate companies take no responsibility for child labour. Thankfully, companies like Nike and Adidas seem to be fairly responsible. Don't know about Reebok though :)

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 186 guests