Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

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Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by newboy » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Not a lot as far as I can see there's only two players I would class as Wanderers Jussi and KD and that's only through past services, the rest are just a collection of players ( second rate at that)playing for Bolton.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFy

Post by elfil76 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:30 pm

Misery to fans and fun for his mates. also a ping pong table

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:34 pm

Which other team could lose 4 or 5 of it's best players and not see an effect? We've lost Chungy, Holden and Sturridge who undoubtedly were our best three last season. I also think Elmander would be up there too, despite him not being great when he filled in for Chungy on the right.

He needs to be given a good budget in January to strengthen the squad because the players simply aren't good enough right now.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:37 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:Which other team could lose 4 or 5 of it's best players and not see an effect? We've lost Chungy, Holden and Sturridge who undoubtedly were our best three last season. I also think Elmander would be up there too, despite him not being great when he filled in for Chungy on the right.

He needs to be given a good budget in January to strengthen the squad because the players simply aren't good enough right now.
Give over. Would you seriously trust him to buy quality and be able to organise the team to play effectively? He's not doing the latter part now and his track record does not support the former.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:46 pm

Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by hi there, i'm chris » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:49 pm

Whookam wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:Which other team could lose 4 or 5 of it's best players and not see an effect? We've lost Chungy, Holden and Sturridge who undoubtedly were our best three last season. I also think Elmander would be up there too, despite him not being great when he filled in for Chungy on the right.

He needs to be given a good budget in January to strengthen the squad because the players simply aren't good enough right now.
Give over. Would you seriously trust him to buy quality and be able to organise the team to play effectively? He's not doing the latter part now and his track record does not support the former.
When we had all our best players fit, he got us playing the best football I've ever seen from Bolton. So, I think he can, but in the situation we're in at the moment? I don't think so.
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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:51 pm

hi there, i'm chris wrote: When we had all our best players fit, he got us playing the best football I've ever seen from Bolton. So, I think he can, but in the situation we're in at the moment? I don't think so.
Really? We had a purple patch that lasted a month but beyond that we've been nothing special. Certainly there were times under Allardyce when we were far superior to watch and as a team.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:53 pm

Whookam wrote:Give over. Would you seriously trust him to buy quality and be able to organise the team to play effectively? He's not doing the latter part now and his track record does not support the former.
Of course he can organise the team. We went from playing good football for a long time, with some excellent results, to losing a few key players and then we haven't recovered. To simply ignore what Coyle did at the start of his career is disingenuous. I'm not happy with these results either but you don't go from being good at your job to completely awful.

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by hi there, i'm chris » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:54 pm

Whookam wrote:
hi there, i'm chris wrote: When we had all our best players fit, he got us playing the best football I've ever seen from Bolton. So, I think he can, but in the situation we're in at the moment? I don't think so.
Really? We had a purple patch that lasted a month but beyond that we've been nothing special. Certainly there were times under Allardyce when we were far superior to watch and as a team.
I think we were more effective as a team during our best spell with Allardyce, but pure football wise, that run around the time we beat Wolves 3-1, Spurs 5-2 and Newcastle 5-1 was for me probably the best I've seen. It was a joy to watch and it genuinely felt like we were going to score every time we went forward. Then we went on a run at home were we won 5 straight games, not including the Spurs and Newcastle games. Not as good football wise, but strong all the same.
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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:01 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:Of course he can organise the team. We went from playing good football for a long time,
Define good football.
with some excellent results,
Which?
To simply ignore what Coyle did at the start of his career is disingenuous.
No, you're cherry picking results from a short period half way through his time here. We have been utter shite shite April, we weren't much better a year earlier.
I'm not happy with these results either but you don't go from being good at your job to completely awful.
He may never have been a good manager, just a good motivator. When things went wrong at Burnley he had no idea how to change it. When things went wrong at Bolton...
Coyle deserves times to build a decent team.
No, he really doesn't.
We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.
His signings, Holden aside, have been poor. Even he doesn't play most of them. Needless to say it's not that which makes him a bad manager, it's 12 losses in 15 games with no real sign of any tactical nous that does it.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by bedwetter2 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:08 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
Whookam wrote:Give over. Would you seriously trust him to buy quality and be able to organise the team to play effectively? He's not doing the latter part now and his track record does not support the former.
Of course he can organise the team. We went from playing good football for a long time, with some excellent results, to losing a few key players and then we haven't recovered. To simply ignore what Coyle did at the start of his career is disingenuous. I'm not happy with these results either but you don't go from being good at your job to completely awful.

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.
Are you for real "Smokin" or have you been inhaling whatever you are smoking? Or, indeed, are you Coyle or one of his minions?
How do you think the players have come to appear abysmal? Is there anything by way of coaching (if any real coaching and training were really carried out) which may help or is that not the responsibility of the manager either?
I know for a fact that a good coach using intelligent tactics can make a mediocre team look good so I would suggest that the reverse is also true.
I don't want to hear from such an apologist again.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by chester white » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:20 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
Jesus! Talk about an over-reaction. I think Coyle has had his time and needs to go, but you're letting yourself down BWFCi with shite like that. Coyle is a decent bloke who has been found wanting. Don't lower yourself to the same standards as the people who you showed so much disdain for when Megson was in charge and posted similar drivel.
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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Whookam » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:22 pm

chester white wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
Jesus! Talk about an over-reaction. I think Coyle has had his time and needs to go, but you're letting yourself down BWFCi with shite like that. Coyle is a decent bloke who has been found wanting. Don't lower yourself to the same standards as the people who you showed so much disdain for when Megson was in charge and posted similar drivel.
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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:28 pm

chester white wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
Jesus! Talk about an over-reaction. I think Coyle has had his time and needs to go, but you're letting yourself down BWFCi with shite like that. Coyle is a decent bloke who has been found wanting. Don't lower yourself to the same standards as the people who you showed so much disdain for when Megson was in charge and posted similar drivel.

The above goes too far. I agree Coyle has to go, but ffs we heralded his arrival and he's not been good enough.
But I dread to think of a replacement.
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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:48 pm

Aye, hes way out of his depth and hast go but take it easy

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:49 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
That is by far and away the most fecked up thing you've ever posted.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Gail Platz » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:28 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
That is by far and away the most fecked up thing you've ever posted.
There's expressing your opinions and being a wanker about it, and he's definitely being the latter.

He's most likely the one that will sit there at a game and say nothing in case someone disagrees with his views, then fire out drivel like this on the forum.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:36 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
That is by far and away the most fecked up thing you've ever posted.
Agreed.

That's notreet territory.

He has to go though.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by jaffka » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:40 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!
That post is disgusting.

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Re: Apart from Holden what has Coyle brought to BWFC

Post by ChrisC » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle is a cancer. His tentacles have slowly spread and is destroying the club.

I despise the man. Wish him nothing but bad!

You have serious issues BWFCI.. Get a grip!

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