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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:56 am

Oztumer joins, Morais leaves, Donaldson joins, Ameobi resigns.
Also some info on the variety of youngsters who've signed pro deals. Alex Perry is missing, presumed released.

RELEASED (14)
Mark Howard • Dorian Dervite • Derik Osede • Karl Henry • Jan Kirchhoff • Jem Karacan • Darren Pratley • Filipe Morais • Chris Taylor • Aaron Wilbraham • Chinedu Obasi • Jeff King • Cole Lonsdale, Ryan White (third-year scholars)

LOANS EXPIRED (6)
Reece Burke (contracted until 2020 at West Ham)
Antonee Robinson (contracted until 2019 at Everton)
Jon Flanagan (since released by Liverpool and signed for Rangers)
Harry Charsley (contracted until 2019 at Everton)
Zach Clough (contracted until 2021 at Forest)
Tyler Walker (contracted until 2021 at Forest)

2019 (12 seniors, 8 younger)
Ben Amos
Jake Turner (pro)
Mark Beevers
David Wheater
Mark Little
Stephen Darby
Andrew Taylor
Josh Vela
Will Buckley
Craig Noone
Adam Le Fondre*
Clayton Donaldson

Harry Brockbank (pro, 26/09/98, centre-back)
Liam Edwards (pro, 02/10/96, centre-back)
Chiori Johnson (pro, 05/10/97, right-back/defender)
Joe Muscatt (pro, 15/12/97, left-back)
Jack Earing (pro, 21/01/99, central midfielder)
Joe Pritchard (pro, 10/09/96, midfielder)
Dennis Politic (pro, 05/03/00, winger)
Stephen Duke-McKenna (pro, 17/08/00, forward)

2020 (5)
Ben Alnwick
Jason Lowe
Erhun Oztumer
Sammy Ameobi
Connor Hall

Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.
* - deals known to have extension "options"
"pro" - youngsters on professional deals rather than scholarships


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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:53 pm

Lots has happened in the last month while I've been elsewhere. We've signed Pawel Olkowski (10/7), Marc Wilson (24/7), Jack Hobbs (30/7), Josh Magennis (30/7, for money!), Luke Murphy (2/8), Gary O'Neil (3/8) plus kids Marcus Wood and Yoan Zouma (both 13/8). We've loaned Ben Amos out for the rest of his contract (13/7), borrowed Yanic Wildschut for the last year of his contract (19/7), got Remi Matthews on a loan-to-buy (12/8), loaned Jonathan Grounds (13/8) and cancelled Adam Le Fondre's contract (14/8). Apart from that, not much...

2019 (16 seniors, 10 younger)
Ben Amos (season-long loan to Millwall should see out his contract)
Remi Matthews (half-season loan becoming permanent on January 1st 2019)
Mark Beevers
David Wheater
Jack Hobbs
Marc Wilson
Mark Little
Stephen Darby
Andrew Taylor
Jonathan Grounds (season-long loan from Birmingham, where he's contracted until June 2020)
Gary O'Neil (contract to January 2019)
Josh Vela
Will Buckley
Craig Noone
Yanic Wildschut (season-long loan from Norwich, where he's contracted to June 2019)
Clayton Donaldson

Jake Turner (pro, 25/02/99, goalkeeper, work-ex loan to Stalybridge allows continued eligibility for BWFC U23)
Harry Brockbank (pro, 26/09/98, centre-back)
Liam Edwards (pro, 02/10/96, centre-back)
Chiori Johnson (pro, 05/10/97, right-back/defender)
Joe Muscatt (pro, 15/12/97, left-back)
Jack Earing (pro, 21/01/99, central midfielder)
Marcus Wood (pro, 12/02/98, midfielder)
Joe Pritchard (pro, 10/09/96, midfielder)
Dennis Politic (pro, 05/03/00, winger)
Stephen Duke-McKenna (pro, 17/08/00, forward)

2020 (7 seniors, 2 younger)
Ben Alnwick
Pawel Olkowski
Jason Lowe
Luke Murphy
Erhun Oztumer
Sammy Ameobi
Josh Magennis

Yoan Zouma (pro, 06/05/98, centre-back)
Connor Hall (pro, 18/02/98, striker)

Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.
"pro" - youngsters on professional deals rather than scholarships


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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Joe Williams borrowed.

2019 (16 seniors, 10 younger)
Ben Amos (season-long loan to Millwall should see out his contract)
Remi Matthews (half-season loan becoming permanent on January 1st 2019)
Mark Beevers
David Wheater
Jack Hobbs
Marc Wilson
Mark Little
Stephen Darby
Andrew Taylor
Jonathan Grounds (season-long loan from Birmingham, where he's contracted until June 2020)
Gary O'Neil (contract to January 2019)
Josh Vela
Joe Williams (season-long loan from Everton, where he's contracted until June 2020)
Will Buckley
Craig Noone
Yanic Wildschut (season-long loan from Norwich, where he's contracted to June 2019)
Clayton Donaldson

Jake Turner (pro, 25/02/99, goalkeeper, work-ex loan to Stalybridge allows continued eligibility for BWFC U23)
Harry Brockbank (pro, 26/09/98, centre-back)
Liam Edwards (pro, 02/10/96, centre-back)
Chiori Johnson (pro, 05/10/97, right-back/defender)
Joe Muscatt (pro, 15/12/97, left-back)
Jack Earing (pro, 21/01/99, central midfielder)
Marcus Wood (pro, 12/02/98, midfielder)
Joe Pritchard (pro, 10/09/96, midfielder)
Dennis Politic (pro, 05/03/00, winger)
Stephen Duke-McKenna (pro, 17/08/00, forward)

2020 (7 seniors, 2 younger)
Ben Alnwick
Pawel Olkowski
Jason Lowe
Luke Murphy
Erhun Oztumer
Sammy Ameobi
Josh Magennis

Yoan Zouma (pro, 06/05/98, centre-back)
Connor Hall (pro, 18/02/98, striker)

Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.
"pro" - youngsters on professional deals rather than scholarships


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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Enoch » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:24 pm

Do we really have no one under contract beyond June 2020, Mr barnet?

Would that be unique in t' Football League?

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:20 am

Enoch wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:24 pm
Do we really have no one under contract beyond June 2020, Mr barnet?
As far as I'm aware, yes; each name has a link to proof, and although I suppose I could have missed some, I don't think so.
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Would that be unique in t' Football League?
Not sure on that one. It would take the thick end of a week to check properly (or a strong hour on something only partially reliable like Transfermarkt).

It wouldn't astonish me if there are a couple of others like this – essentially who haven't offered a three-year deal since last summer at least. As I say, it makes financial sense and allows a club to be footloose, especially if they frequently change managers (and/or divisions); it makes less sense for long-term building, but so does frequently changing managers (and/or divisions). One could argue we should have a couple on longer deals but it takes two parties to sign, so it may not be the club withholding.

I wonder who our last three-year+ contract was awarded to? Derik? Amos? Pratley?

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Enoch » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:35 am

I think I like the idea, particularly in the crazy world of professional football with it's ridiculous salary levels. I'd like to see the salary bill paid last season to players contracted to the 92 that didn't make a first team appearance for their home club all term.

That might need longer than the thick end of a week!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:55 am

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Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:35 am
I think I like the idea, particularly in the crazy world of professional football with it's ridiculous salary levels. I'd like to see the salary bill paid last season to players contracted to the 92 that didn't make a first team appearance for their home club all term.

That might need longer than the thick end of a week!
It would also contradict confidentiality clauses and such, whereas a contract's length (if not plumpness) if generally public knowledge.

But it would be lapped up by some or other thundering newspaper, angrily headlined with What A Waste Of Money or somesuch.

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Enoch » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:02 am

With some judicious work there's a story there then.

Get on it, Man. It'll sell to some slimy rag. Happy to act on your behalf.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:20 am

Couldn't help myself. Here's a representation of how many players each Championship club has contracted beyond next summer (according to Transfermarkt). Green means 2021, yellow 2022, red 2023.

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Interesting, this, in that it can cut both ways. Up at the top you've got Brentford, the very model of a well-run 'trading' club, along with similarly-minded Preston and Bristol City - but you've also recently relegated sides (Stoke, West Brom) plus shit-flingers like Leeds and Forest. Down at the bottom, it looks like QPR and Hull have managed to get most of their long-termers off the books, while Rotherham and Millwall might be doing a similar thing to us.

And yes, I know you asked about the entire Football League, but give us a chance...

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Post by Enoch » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:33 am

That does seem to show there's more than one cat skinning method. 7 clubs with a full 11 contracted to the end of 21/22 season, forward planning or foolhardy, time will tell. I know where my money is.

Looks as though The Hoops have got over Harry's excesses. Then they go and engage The Wally, good golly!

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by boltonboris » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:19 pm

Jesus, Stoke dishing out 5 year deals!!!
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:34 pm

boltonboris wrote:
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Jesus, Stoke dishing out 5 year deals!!!
#inorite
Per Transfermarkt, they're for Moritz Bauer, Lasse Sorensen and Oghenekaro Etebo. Bauer is a right-back they signed in January on a four-and-a-half-year deal just after sacking Mark Hughes but before the 1.55am-nightclub-pickup hiring of Lambert; undeterred by this, they extended his contract this summer. Etebo is the busy Nigeria midfielder they signed for £6.35m this summer. Sorensen is an 18-year-old midfielder who's spent a couple of years in their youth ranks and made his debut in last season's final-game dead rubber against Swansea.

In other words, they handed out all those contracts this summer. OK lads, your choice.

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Enoch » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:35 am

Be reet.

I mean, Potteries are where you'd want to invest.

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Enoch » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:41 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:20 am
Enoch wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:24 pm
Do we really have no one under contract beyond June 2020, Mr barnet?
As far as I'm aware, yes; each name has a link to proof, and although I suppose I could have missed some, I don't think so.
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How would this sit with a two year transfer embargo?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:44 pm

Doidge added on another loan-to-buy. As with Remi Matthews, it's unclear how long the permanent contract will be; we can add that info in when we know.

2019 (18 seniors, 10 younger)
Ben Amos (season-long loan to Millwall should see out his contract)
Remi Matthews (half-season loan becoming permanent on January 1st 2019)
Mark Beevers
David Wheater
Jack Hobbs
Marc Wilson
Mark Little
Stephen Darby
Andrew Taylor
Jonathan Grounds (season-long loan from Birmingham, where he's contracted until June 2020)
Gary O'Neil (contract to January 2019)
Josh Vela
Joe Williams (season-long loan from Everton, where he's contracted until June 2020)
Will Buckley
Craig Noone
Yanic Wildschut (season-long loan from Norwich, where he's contracted to June 2019)
Christian Doidge (half-season loan becoming permanent on January 1st 2019)
Clayton Donaldson

Jake Turner (pro, 25/02/99, goalkeeper, work-ex loan to Stalybridge allows continued eligibility for BWFC U23)
Harry Brockbank (pro, 26/09/98, centre-back)
Liam Edwards (pro, 02/10/96, centre-back)
Chiori Johnson (pro, 05/10/97, right-back/defender)
Joe Muscatt (pro, 15/12/97, left-back)
Jack Earing (pro, 21/01/99, central midfielder)
Marcus Wood (pro, 12/02/98, midfielder)
Joe Pritchard (pro, 10/09/96, midfielder)
Dennis Politic (pro, 05/03/00, winger)
Stephen Duke-McKenna (pro, 17/08/00, forward)

2020 (7 seniors, 2 younger)
Ben Alnwick
Pawel Olkowski
Jason Lowe
Luke Murphy
Erhun Oztumer
Sammy Ameobi
Josh Magennis

Yoan Zouma (pro, 06/05/98, centre-back)
Connor Hall (pro, 18/02/98, striker)

Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.
"pro" - youngsters on professional deals rather than scholarships


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Re: Contract expiry

Post by truewhite15 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:50 pm

Might be worth removing Darby from that list. Regrettably.

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truewhite15 wrote:
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Might be worth removing Darby from that list. Regrettably.
Will do, next time. Bless him.

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 06, 2019 9:04 am

Josh Vela announces he will leave this summer.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... ting-club/
“Hello guys, just a quick announcement I will be leaving Bolton Wanderers when my contract expires,” he wrote. “I had 17 glorious years there, came all the through the academy and then eventually went on to play in the first team, was an absolute privilege to play for the club.

“Loved every second of it, thank you to the fans for the support over the years through good and bad times. No matter what anybody says I always gave 100 per cent in that shirt in every game I played.

“Just want to thank all the staff for all their effort that they have put in over the years, and I know how it feels to them when a lad from the academy goes on to play in the first team, I’ve made some friends for life at the club and will always be a supporter of that club.

“It’s hard for me to leave the club that I have been at for 17 years, but the time has come for a new challenge for me and my family. This season hasn’t gone to plan but I’m sure the club will get back to where it belongs, I’ve enjoyed the ups and downs - a lot more ups.

“But that’s football. I want to wish everyone at the club, all the very best for the future, especially the fans because they deserve it for the continued support. All the very best, Josh Vela.”

And Parky reveals that others refused to play at Forest because they’ve already turned in their badges.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... parkinson/
“I have been in football for more than 30 years, and some of the things that have happened this season are happening to me for the first time.

“There are some players who have put in their two-week notice, I think some of that has been out in the media, and there are other lads who have offers from elsewhere who, naturally, didn’t want to play.

“We also had some genuine injuries with David Wheater, Jason Lowe, Luke Murphy and Mark Beevers.

“We were left with a bare 18 but I think they showed good character, and that is important.

“Firstly the lads who put their notices in – if they play and get injured, they are not insured. You have to respect that.

“Those who might move on elsewhere didn’t want to play, which we have had to deal with, but I want to concentrate on those who did, and I thank them for that.”

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 06, 2019 2:00 pm

Had a bit more of a dig into the squad regarding the refuseniks.

If we discount the matchday 18 and the four "genuine injuries" Parky cites (Wheavers, Lowe, Murphy), I make it we're left with eight other first-team squad members - but that includes Ben Amos (out on loan) and Joe Williams, who was injured in late April and declared "likely to be out for the season".

That leaves:
• Pawel Olkowski (transfer request handed in)
• Sammy Ameobi (strongly rumoured to have had enough)
• Josh Vela (presumably hence the quick Twitter announcement this morning)
• Marc Wilson (came on as an early sub at Blackburn but not, IIRC, injured himself)
• Yanic Wildschut (did he ever get paid?)
• Ben Alnwick (something of a surprise, this one; but hey ho)

Make of that what you will – and I back their right to strike, given their treatment – but I thought it might be of interest. For clarity, none of these players have come out and said they refused to play, but unless they were undeclared injured it's a reasonable assumption.

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Re: Contract expiry

Post by mullayo » Mon May 06, 2019 2:19 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:00 pm
Had a bit more of a dig into the squad regarding the refuseniks.

That leaves:
• Pawel Olkowski (transfer request handed in)
• Sammy Ameobi (strongly rumoured to have had enough)
• Josh Vela (presumably hence the quick Twitter announcement this morning)
• Marc Wilson (came on as an early sub at Blackburn but not, IIRC, injured himself)
• Yanic Wildschut (did he ever get paid?)
• Ben Alnwick (something of a surprise, this one; but hey ho)
What about Oz? He was on the bench - or ballboy ? - but unused. Surely as one of our 5 contracted players he should be getting a start. We're relegated already...

Makes you wonder about Lowe and Murphy whether they would have refused too?
Leaving us with ST Magennis and GK Remi playing piggy in the middle with Oz as the three amigos of League 1.
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