Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:28 pm

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I'm getting a headache... who said what? and why? and did they they mean it?

megson said that BigSam's backroom army was a bag of bollox. that's basically all you need to know...

I don't think that has come up yet.
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

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thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I'm getting a headache... who said what? and why? and did they they mean it?

megson said that BigSam's backroom army was a bag of bollox. that's basically all you need to know...

I don't think that has come up yet.
oh - and for some reason as yet undiscovered, BWFCi is holding out some kind of a vague argument that Megson was somehow marginally more sophisticated in the use of backroom staff for the general good of the football club than Coyle was...

which is a bit like an in depth argument over whether labrador sh*t is better than dalmatian sh*t...

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by chester white » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:35 pm

Megson was almost 3 pissing years ago. I don't care about what he did or didn't do anymore.

Coyle had plenty of time to sort the backroom staff side of things if it wasn't adequate. It's apparent that he didn't and no doubt this is part of the reason he finds himself without a job and we're 18th place in the bloody Championship!
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:44 pm

I think we've been somewhat hyijacked here. The basic premise is that no manager has seen fit to replace the set up that Allardyce dismantled. BWFCi seems to want to contend this wasn't true under Megson.
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:50 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I think we've been somewhat hyijacked here. The basic premise is that no manager has seen fit to replace the set up that Allardyce dismantled. BWFCi seems to want to contend this wasn't true under Megson.
No, I'm saying that we had a more scaled down approach. That appears to have disappeared completely under Coyle.

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

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BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I think we've been somewhat hyijacked here. The basic premise is that no manager has seen fit to replace the set up that Allardyce dismantled. BWFCi seems to want to contend this wasn't true under Megson.
No, I'm saying that we had a more scaled down approach. That appears to have disappeared completely under Coyle.
the kind of scaled down approach where his attitude was that it was all a bag of bollox.

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Beefheart » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:56 pm

Article in the BN which supports this http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... nt_impact/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (though that might be what you are already talking about)

Mentions how the new regime have started double training sessions, have training tailored to meet individual player needs and are working on organising the midfield and back 4. When will they have time for ping pong?!

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:01 pm

OK, getting into this now. As I see it from the above arguments we have 4 basic premises to go at:
Theorum 1 Allardyce=Megson=Coyle
Theorum 2 Allardyce>Megson>Coyle
Theorum 3 Allardyce≠Megson=Coyle
Theorum 4 Allardyce≠Megson≡Coyle
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Hoboh » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:13 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:OK, getting into this now. As I see it from the above arguments we have 4 basic premises to go at:
Theorum 1 Allardyce=Megson=Coyle
Theorum 2 Allardyce>Megson>Coyle
Theorum 3 Allardyce≠Megson=Coyle
Theorum 4 Allardyce≠Megson≡Coyle
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:OK, getting into this now. As I see it from the above arguments we have 4 basic premises to go at:
Theorum 1 Allardyce=Megson=Coyle
Theorum 2 Allardyce>Megson>Coyle
Theorum 3 Allardyce≠Megson=Coyle
Theorum 4 Allardyce≠Megson≡Coyle
:crazy:

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You're a proponent of theory 2. I'd have had you down as theory 4. :wink:
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Sponge » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:20 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I think we've been somewhat hyijacked here. The basic premise is that no manager has seen fit to replace the set up that Allardyce dismantled. BWFCi seems to want to contend this wasn't true under Megson.
No, I'm saying that we had a more scaled down approach. That appears to have disappeared completely under Coyle.
the kind of scaled down approach where his attitude was that it was all a bag of bollox.

Yeah, apparently Megson was recently on R5 saying that "[Allardyce's] back-room set-up was a big bag of hairy bollox [sic]".

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:22 pm

What the poo stains are you lot on about?!

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by boltonboris » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:33 pm

Bollocks I think
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by chester white » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:56 pm

I think this article is slightly different to the ones linked above, but follows a similar trait. The part about training being light hearted under Coyle makes my piss boil. We've been in free fall for 18 months yet he stuck to keeping a smile on the players face? To follow the theme of the thread, what a load of hairy bollocks!

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/99 ... he_Reebok/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:25 pm

Beefheart wrote:Article in the BN which supports this http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... nt_impact/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (though that might be what you are already talking about)

Mentions how the new regime have started double training sessions, have training tailored to meet individual player needs and are working on organising the midfield and back 4. When will they have time for ping pong?!
Extraordinary.Who'd have thought of doing that. Phillips/Lee in
So will they be picking one of Petrov/mavis /Eagles in midfield or by the miracle of the new regime will they suddenly learn to take part and tackle/track back when we dont have the ball. TBH Mavis tries to but his little legs are too short(which is why he cant cross a ball either!)

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by jaffka » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:36 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I think we've been somewhat hyijacked here. The basic premise is that no manager has seen fit to replace the set up that Allardyce dismantled. BWFCi seems to want to contend this wasn't true under Megson.
No, I'm saying that we had a more scaled down approach. That appears to have disappeared completely under Coyle.
the kind of scaled down approach where his attitude was that it was all a bag of bollox.
there was that time when he was the manager and said that there was a lot wrong with the club and not just due to the last manager

he also was on radio 5 recently saying basically that BSA's methods were a great big bag of bollox

as far as i can see only a real true cockend would be wanting to try and paint megson in a bright light

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by David Lee's Hair » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:59 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Beefheart wrote:Article in the BN which supports this http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... nt_impact/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (though that might be what you are already talking about)

Mentions how the new regime have started double training sessions, have training tailored to meet individual player needs and are working on organising the midfield and back 4. When will they have time for ping pong?!
Extraordinary.Who'd have thought of doing that. Phillips/Lee in
So will they be picking one of Petrov/mavis /Eagles in midfield or by the miracle of the new regime will they suddenly learn to take part and tackle/track back when we dont have the ball. TBH Mavis tries to but his little legs are too short(which is why he cant cross a ball either!)
Makes Coyles world sound like a pub team to be honest...
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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:15 pm

thebish wrote:which is a bit like an in depth argument over whether labrador sh*t is better than dalmatian sh*t...
Indeed. Can we please move on?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:46 pm

chester white wrote:I think this article is slightly different to the ones linked above, but follows a similar trait. The part about training being light hearted under Coyle makes my piss boil. We've been in free fall for 18 months yet he stuck to keeping a smile on the players face? To follow the theme of the thread, what a load of hairy bollocks!

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/99 ... he_Reebok/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Another coach with a rich Burnden past, Julian Darby, had also been helping out at Lostock and was quickly called upon by Phillips to help out.
Lostock? Is that where da yoot play?

And you have to chuckle at this:
Sammy Lee said rather than wrote:People say you are only as good as your last game, but you are not. You are only as good as your next game and that is Bristol City at home where everyone will hopefully be up and ready to go.
:D Good luck Sammy, Jiminho and the boys...

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Re: Owen Coyle. Where did it all go wrong?

Post by William the White » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:53 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
chester white wrote:I think this article is slightly different to the ones linked above, but follows a similar trait. The part about training being light hearted under Coyle makes my piss boil. We've been in free fall for 18 months yet he stuck to keeping a smile on the players face? To follow the theme of the thread, what a load of hairy bollocks!

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/99 ... he_Reebok/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Another coach with a rich Burnden past, Julian Darby, had also been helping out at Lostock and was quickly called upon by Phillips to help out.
Lostock? Is that where da yoot play?

And you have to chuckle at this:
Sammy Lee said rather than wrote:People say you are only as good as your last game, but you are not. You are only as good as your next game and that is Bristol City at home where everyone will hopefully be up and ready to go.
:D Good luck Sammy, Jiminho and the boys...
What ever happens he'll be looking to take the positives out of it...

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