Dougie Freedman - New Manager

[thebish]

his Screen Wipe was easily the funniest thing I saw on the tellybox over christmas/new year...

[Beefheart]

his Screen Wipe was easily the funniest thing I saw on the tellybox over christmas/new year...

Plus, he seems to be right about a lot of things, or at least I agree with him on a lot of things.

[BWFC_Insane]

his Screen Wipe was easily the funniest thing I saw on the tellybox over christmas/new year...

I didn't see that but I do on occassion find him quite amusing.

I suspect he's one of them "marmite characters".

[bobo the clown]

watching it on i-player. Very funny.

I'll guarantee he's a prick ..... but he's a funny prick !!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I've liked Brooker since he created TV Go Home, a TV listings satire, in the late 90s. At the time I worked in TV listings, but I don't think that was a prerequisite to finding it amusing.

There's no doubt that lots of people dislike him, and I can understand why, but on the quote in question he's got a very good point indeed.

[TANGODANCER]

Is Dougie having a dig at the John Mc's etc? IN today's BN he says:

"You have ex-players on radio or on TV telling you what you should be doing"

[Loyal White]

Is Dougie having a dig at the John Mc's etc? IN today's BN he says:

"You have ex-players on radio or on TV telling you what you should be doing"

If rumours are to be believed, McGinlay's been having a pop at Dougie outside of his radio commitments. Bit of back-chat ongoing.

[bobo the clown]

Is Dougie having a dig at the John Mc's etc? IN today's BN he says:

"You have ex-players on radio or on TV telling you what you should be doing"

If rumours are to be believed, McGinlay's been having a pop at Dougie outside of his radio commitments. Bit of back-chat ongoing.

Shame if he is.

It's OK to be critical, so long as it's fair, reasonaed and consistent. I don't recall him giving Cptn. Chaos too much grief. He was a big pal of the Saint, wasn't he ... so maybe a bit sore at his exit.

[thebish]

Is Dougie having a dig at the John Mc's etc? IN today's BN he says:

"You have ex-players on radio or on TV telling you what you should be doing"

If rumours are to be believed, McGinlay's been having a pop at Dougie outside of his radio commitments. Bit of back-chat ongoing.

Shame if he is.

It's OK to be critical, so long as it's fair, reasonaed and consistent. I don't recall him giving Cptn. Chaos too much grief. He was a big pal of the Saint, wasn't he ... so maybe a bit sore at his exit.

wasn't pulling his punches here:

(criticising the formation and "fine words")

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _Spearing/

[a1]

yeah but by then , theyd bin relegated.

before that and he were a paid up level 3 operating coyleatan.

maybe coyle couldnt freeload enough shit to satisfy the low end of the scheme. maybe lower league football snapped him out of the brainwashing's effects.

i'm surprised john's not been kidnapped and beaten with phonebooks by the fat kitman for leaving the cult.

maybe his slight on #dougiecool means he's since been repatriated into coyleology with a tape that just repeats coyle voice saying "barclay's premier league" over and over.

[officer_dibble]

Was freedman at wolves in the "wee push" days?

[Lord Kangana]

Thought he was at Palace and we tried to sign him, no?

[cecil.bob]

Saw a stat on the BBC we've dropped 21 points from winning positions, be it losses or draws. Can't say it's all on Dougie's head, but god damn some of it surely is. Thats almost any points dropped as we've taken...

[Armchair Wanderer]

Saw a stat on the BBC we've dropped 21 points from winning positions, be it losses or draws. Can't say it's all on Dougie's head, but god damn some of it surely is. Thats almost any points dropped as we've taken...

I don't know the make-up of that stat but it'll be under OC and DF this season. We can't bash DF for OC's stats.

[cecil.bob]

Wasn't meant to be a bash of either one. Just an appalling "holy shit" moment for me. Pretty sure DFs dropped a few points as well...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Wasn't meant to be a bash of either one. Just an appalling "holy shit" moment for me. Pretty sure DFs dropped a few points as well...

We dropped two at Blackpool - twice.
Two more home to Barnsley, for whom our new saviour equalised.
All three at home to Ipswich.
Two more at Huddersfield.
Then we left it a bit (bar Sunderland, which didn't cost points) until this Saturday.

DF's sides have dropped 11 points from winning positions. Which is more than OC's sides did, although if you were really arsed you might be able to prove we've been in front more under DF. I don't know, but we keep hearing about DF's "Italian" desire to protect leads. Hearing about the desire rather than seeing the end product.

[thebish]

Wasn't meant to be a bash of either one. Just an appalling "holy shit" moment for me. Pretty sure DFs dropped a few points as well...

We dropped two at Blackpool - twice.
Two more home to Barnsley, for whom our new saviour equalised.
All three at home to Ipswich.
Two more at Huddersfield.
Then we left it a bit (bar Sunderland, which didn't cost points) until this Saturday.

DF's sides have dropped 11 points from winning positions. Which is more than OC's sides did, although if you were really arsed you might be able to prove we've been in front more under DF. I don't know, but we keep hearing about DF's "Italian" desire to protect leads. Hearing about the desire rather than seeing the end product.

I find this worrying. I'm not interested in calling for Freedman's head - that would be stupid - but two managers managing the same squad over a decent number of games - if one manager is a lot better than the other, then I'd expect him to get more out of the squad than the other fellah did... (unless the other fellah was already getting the most possible out of that squad...)

[bobo the clown]

At least that really ridiculous 'keep ball' we were introduced to against Charlton has developed into a less 2 dimensional version.

[LeverEnd]

As I see it Dougie has not noticeably improved things since OC left. However this doesn't need to be a stick to beat him with. I'm happy to subscribe to the theory that he's sorting things out behind the scenes and that this will translate into success on the pitch at some point towards the end of this, or early next season. Coyle was poor for a long time and that takes some reversing. As for managerial profile (as discussed on the Millwall thread), Coyle does have a track record as a manager, but it is limited, based on picking struggling clubs up off the floor with his undeniable enthusiasm and then moving on before he hit a plateau. many other have had early sucess but proven unsuited to the long-haul (Dowie, boothroyd...). He was the right man at the time we poached him from Burnley, but proved not to be 2 years on. No shame in that.
It's frustrating though that if you try to see the Dougie situation in a positive light you get lambasted by some. I'm not saying he's good or bad, just that he's clearly trying his best and we can't know yet whether that will be good enough. comparing him to Mick McCarthy is also pointless, who knows if McCarthy would have done any better? He may have simply inherited a less individually talented, but more motivated squad with a battling attitude, which we clearly don't have.

[plymouth wanderer]

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Wales international striker Craig Davies stands as the only acquisition to date after Wanderers met a release clause in the player's contract at Barnsley.

Davies' career is yet to take him to the top flight and Freedman insists he will continue to follow a template of players displaying hunger and potential to improve when adding to his already well-stocked squad.

"Yes, we have (got more business to come), we've got one or two things," he said.

"Managers say it's very difficult for them to sign players because there's not a lot of good players out there, which is true, but I think it's doubly hard for myself and one or two other managers who have got to sign a certain type.

"The secret right now is out that I'm going to sign players that are maybe not better than the ones I've got but have got the potential and the desire to be better.

"That's hard, to go and sign potential. Trying to go and uncover and discover potential and then go and sign it. That's what I'm trying to do and I believe I'm very close with one or two players out there."