Freedman out!
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Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
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It would have happened already.ChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
He will still be here for millwall and I think beyond.
He shouldn't be in my opinion but he will.
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Is there a designated time for sackings?jaffka wrote:It would have happened already.ChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
He will still be here for millwall and I think beyond.
He shouldn't be in my opinion but he will.
Brian Mcdermott was sacked around 4/5pm last week ill have you know!!
Unlike Mcdermott, I just hope DF stays gone once the boot is firmly up his back end and his kids are once again in danger.
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Really. Where does this nugget of wisdom come from?BWFC_Insane wrote:Dyche's disciplinarian style and old school training methods sounded remarkably similar to Megsons. And he's ginger.Lord Kangana wrote:By also vomiting and subsequently being second in February?
Silly me. That wasn't the answer you wanted.
Could have saved ourselves a packet.......
My recollection of watching Megson's teams was playing defensive midfielders on the wing, 10 men behind the ball. Perhaps you were watching a different team at the time?
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Some findings from that site I posted.
We've scored in 73% of our games (22 of 30, only nine teams have scored in more games) but we've only picked up one point from those eight blank games because we can't keep a clean sheet: 5 in 30, third-worst "behind" Bournemouth and Barnsley.
We haven't won a game all season after conceding first (which we've done 17 times, a total topped only by Leeds).
We've been losing at half-time on seven occasions and lost six of them (drawing one); only Wednesday have shown less post-break bouncebackability.
We've lost 16 points from winning positions (fifth-worst) and gained six from behind (eighth-worst).
We're a mid-table team in the first half and just about good enough to stay up in the second half.
And we're the division's worst team against top-half sides.
We've scored in 73% of our games (22 of 30, only nine teams have scored in more games) but we've only picked up one point from those eight blank games because we can't keep a clean sheet: 5 in 30, third-worst "behind" Bournemouth and Barnsley.
We haven't won a game all season after conceding first (which we've done 17 times, a total topped only by Leeds).
We've been losing at half-time on seven occasions and lost six of them (drawing one); only Wednesday have shown less post-break bouncebackability.
We've lost 16 points from winning positions (fifth-worst) and gained six from behind (eighth-worst).
We're a mid-table team in the first half and just about good enough to stay up in the second half.
And we're the division's worst team against top-half sides.
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I don't think that using the chaos that occurred at Leeds is a very good example. In any case wasn't his sacking attributed to something that he said rather than football reasons?ChrisC wrote:Is there a designated time for sackings?jaffka wrote:It would have happened already.ChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
He will still be here for millwall and I think beyond.
He shouldn't be in my opinion but he will.
Brian Mcdermott was sacked around 4/5pm last week ill have you know!!
Unlike Mcdermott, I just hope DF stays gone once the boot is firmly up his back end and his kids are once again in danger.
If Duggie is to be sacked if will be for the results not being good enough.
Hd will be here for millwall, get used to it
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Look my comment was tongue in cheek.Lord Kangana wrote:Really. Where does this nugget of wisdom come from?BWFC_Insane wrote:Dyche's disciplinarian style and old school training methods sounded remarkably similar to Megsons. And he's ginger.Lord Kangana wrote:By also vomiting and subsequently being second in February?
Silly me. That wasn't the answer you wanted.
Could have saved ourselves a packet.......
My recollection of watching Megson's teams was playing defensive midfielders on the wing, 10 men behind the ball. Perhaps you were watching a different team at the time?
But I'm also minded of Megson at West Brom taking them from near bottom of the championship to near promotion and the goalscoring duo of Jason Roberts and Lee Hughes up front. It isn't massively dissimilar to the job Dyche is doing at Burnley right now.
Dyche has done very well at Burnley so far, make no mistake. But that doesn't mean he'd have done similar here. Very different jobs, with totally different backdrops.
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Bigger wage budget, better and more modern stadium. Better training facilities.BWFC_Insane wrote:Look my comment was tongue in cheek.Lord Kangana wrote:Really. Where does this nugget of wisdom come from?BWFC_Insane wrote:Dyche's disciplinarian style and old school training methods sounded remarkably similar to Megsons. And he's ginger.Lord Kangana wrote:By also vomiting and subsequently being second in February?
Silly me. That wasn't the answer you wanted.
Could have saved ourselves a packet.......
My recollection of watching Megson's teams was playing defensive midfielders on the wing, 10 men behind the ball. Perhaps you were watching a different team at the time?
But I'm also minded of Megson at West Brom taking them from near bottom of the championship to near promotion and the goalscoring duo of Jason Roberts and Lee Hughes up front. It isn't massively dissimilar to the job Dyche is doing at Burnley right now.
Dyche has done very well at Burnley so far, make no mistake. But that doesn't mean he'd have done similar here. Very different jobs, with totally different backdrops.
I think it's better to suggest Duggie couldn't do what Dyche is doing at burnley.
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He's done blindingly to turn Vokes into a footballer coz he used be shiiiiiiit. Almost identical goal record and age as Juktiewitz before this season. Their ages are still, remarkably, similar, their goal records not so mich.. I'm not convinced Dougie will get a similar transformation from the non-pole.
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I think the issue is beyond doubt now anyway. Its when not if, no matter what the FFP diversion is, nobody has this set of results on their record without being in serious danger of losing their job. If we lose at Millwall and he doesn't get the bullet, I'm likely to think that Gartsides brain has melted. And would genuinely start to worry about what exactly Eddie Davies has in mind for us as a club.
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Once you find that your age is remarkably similar, they tend to stay similar at other times too...Prufrock wrote:He's done blindingly to turn Vokes into a footballer coz he used be shiiiiiiit. Almost identical goal record and age as Juktiewitz before this season. Their ages are still, remarkably, similar, their goal records not so mich.. I'm not convinced Dougie will get a similar transformation from the non-pole.
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Losing at relly-rivals Millwall would be far more serious than losing to the second-placed club. But I still don't think he'll get the sack until we're in the bottom three.Lord Kangana wrote:If we lose at Millwall and he doesn't get the bullet, I'm likely to think that Gartsides brain has melted.
If we lose at Millwall and Donny beat Barnsley at home, we'll be sitting atop the dotted line. And Charlton, in FA Cup action this weekend, would then have three games in hand with which to catch up five points on us... not to mention our Easter-Saturday Valley visit. Thanks to their postponement-provoking pudding-pitch, 10 of their 18 remaining games are at home, including Barnsley and Yeovil... and QPR and Burnley (they've also got to go to Leicester, Derby and Forest).
Ah well, at least a relegation battle's interesting.
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Cynical very cynicalDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Losing at relly-rivals Millwall would be far more serious than losing to the second-placed club. But I still don't think he'll get the sack until we're in the bottom three.Lord Kangana wrote:If we lose at Millwall and he doesn't get the bullet, I'm likely to think that Gartsides brain has melted.
If we lose at Millwall and Donny beat Barnsley at home, we'll be sitting atop the dotted line. And Charlton, in FA Cup action this weekend, would then have three games in hand with which to catch up five points on us... not to mention our Easter-Saturday Valley visit. Thanks to their postponement-provoking pudding-pitch, 10 of their 18 remaining games are at home, including Barnsley and Yeovil... and QPR and Burnley (they've also got to go to Leicester, Derby and Forest).
Ah well, at least a relegation battle's interesting.
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I like playing Nostrodamus... I predict (results dependent, obviously) he'll get his marching orders in the post-dawn hours of Wednesday 9th AprilChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
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You can't possibly plan for something what, six weeks in advance...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I like playing Nostrodamus... I predict (results dependent, obviously) he'll get his marching orders in the post-dawn hours of Wednesday 9th AprilChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
April's shaping up to be a helluva month:
Sat 5 A Huddersfield
Tue 8 A Doncaster
Sat 12 H Barnsley
Sat 19 A Charlton
Tue 22 H Leicester
Sat 26 A Sheff Wed
...leaving just the closing home game with Birmingham, where we can go for a third successive last-day failure via 2-2 draw...
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As Marc Iles has pointed out today, manager staying/going is down to Eddie Davies.Lord Kangana wrote:I think the issue is beyond doubt now anyway. Its when not if, no matter what the FFP diversion is, nobody has this set of results on their record without being in serious danger of losing their job. If we lose at Millwall and he doesn't get the bullet, I'm likely to think that Gartsides brain has melted. And would genuinely start to worry about what exactly Eddie Davies has in mind for us as a club.
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So Phil Gartside's position at the club is superfluous then? That should save us a fair few f*cking quid for a kick off.
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We could just win all those games, finish a few places shy of the play offs and Dougie will be still be here next season for more of the same NOT !Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:You can't possibly plan for something what, six weeks in advance...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I like playing Nostrodamus... I predict (results dependent, obviously) he'll get his marching orders in the post-dawn hours of Wednesday 9th AprilChrisC wrote:Its going to happen today. I can feel it in my waters.. I think .. I hope .. I pray
April's shaping up to be a helluva month:
Sat 5 A Huddersfield
Tue 8 A Doncaster
Sat 12 H Barnsley
Sat 19 A Charlton
Tue 22 H Leicester
Sat 26 A Sheff Wed
...leaving just the closing home game with Birmingham, where we can go for a third successive last-day failure via 2-2 draw...
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10k a weekLord Kangana wrote:So Phil Gartside's position at the club is superfluous then? That should save us a fair few f*cking quid for a kick off.
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So you think his role is purely confined to sacking and appointing first team managers?Lord Kangana wrote:So Phil Gartside's position at the club is superfluous then? That should save us a fair few f*cking quid for a kick off.
He's running Bolton Wanderers. However, as it is Eddie's money he has the say. We already know that Eddie is directly approving signings (as DF said re Spearing).
As an aside strong rumour at the ground last night that Gartside is close to stepping down. Don't know if there is anything in it, but I'd be surprised if he was still here in a years time.
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