The Debt.

[Gary the Enfield]

Well I for one do not want to google 'panic fannies stick together'

That is.............

I just entered it into Google Image Search. fecking hell, have you ever pulled a cheese toastie apart?

hopefully not on a work computer!! [/quote

That's PRECISELY why!

A fecking calamity again, look. Do they actually let you anywhere near the work computers?

feck you lot. This is on my mobile as I've just finished work until the 4th Jan. So again I say feck you and the horse you rode in on. X

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Anybody bought us yet?

[plymouth wanderer]

Are we there yet?

[thebish]

I need a weeeee!

[Bijou Bob]

I need a weeeee!

It's your age Reverend.

I can almost hear the sharp smacking sound of the doc's rubber gloves before he does that prostate check.

[BWFC_Insane]

I need a weeeee!

It's your age Reverend.

I can almost hear the sharp smacking sound of the doc's rubber gloves before he does that prostate check.

What you and bish get up to behind closed doors, really should remain there.....

[BWFC_Insane]

We are looking to sell the training ground at Euxton to Preston North End - confirmed by Lennon this morning. Things just went very bleak again.

[Hoboh]

We are looking to sell the training ground at Euxton to Preston North End - confirmed by Lennon this morning. Things just went very bleak again.

Be nice to see their list of injuries in a few months then!
We have got to live up to the reality, we are now slipping fast into the world of the Bury and Rochdale's.

[thebish]

We are looking to sell the training ground at Euxton to Preston North End - confirmed by Lennon this morning. Things just went very bleak again.

I would expect nothing less of you - that little dawn of sunshine rays was just too much!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Are we there yet?

Are we, well are we?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

We are looking to sell the training ground at Euxton to Preston North End - confirmed by Lennon this morning. Things just went very bleak again.

But we knew this This isn't news booooooooo

[StaffsTrotter]

We are looking to sell the training ground at Euxton to Preston North End - confirmed by Lennon this morning. Things just went very bleak again.

But we knew this This isn't news booooooooo

its news because its specific, but wouldnt we have expected every option for every bit of our current operation to be under review - just doesnt mean we will sell, might just mean we are getting a market value/ disposal option

[jetsetwilly]

Let's all be honest about this. Selling off assets is going to aid survival. However, it will mean that we are never able to return to the top table.

I suspect we are going to be rattling around the bottom 2 divisions for many years IF we survive. I still maintain that it is most likely that we will fold and be liquidated, starting back like Newport County in some ungodly league, playing at somebody else's stadium.

I honestly don't see any way out of this. These buyers are clearly a million miles away from doing a deal with ED. ED knows he gets a pay off as main creditor, only if we sell off the assets.

I just wish this would all come to a head, one way or another. Buyer or bust. It is painful to see this dragged out like a dying family pet whose owner can't bear to take it for that final trip.

Ill or not, PG is a disgrace. To be paying out the money to agents when we knew what a mess we were in is nothing short of criminal.

[plymouth wanderer]

Let's all be honest about this. Selling off assets is going to aid survival. However, it will mean that we are never able to return to the top table.

I suspect we are going to be rattling around the bottom 2 divisions for many years IF we survive. I still maintain that it is most likely that we will fold and be liquidated, starting back like Newport County in some ungodly league, playing at somebody else's stadium.

I honestly don't see any way out of this. These buyers are clearly a million miles away from doing a deal with ED. ED knows he gets a pay off as main creditor, only if we sell off the assets.

I just wish this would all come to a head, one way or another. Buyer or bust. It is painful to see this dragged out like a dying family pet whose owner can't bear to take it for that final trip.

Ill or not, PG is a disgrace. To be paying out the money to agents when we knew what a mess we were in is nothing short of criminal.

I mentioned the same a little earlier. To spend a million quid on fecking agents when he knew full well we're are up shit creek- is disgusting

[StaffsTrotter]

Let's all be honest about this. Selling off assets is going to aid survival. However, it will mean that we are never able to return to the top table.

I suspect we are going to be rattling around the bottom 2 divisions for many years IF we survive. I still maintain that it is most likely that we will fold and be liquidated, starting back like Newport County in some ungodly league, playing at somebody else's stadium.

I honestly don't see any way out of this. These buyers are clearly a million miles away from doing a deal with ED. ED knows he gets a pay off as main creditor, only if we sell off the assets.

I just wish this would all come to a head, one way or another. Buyer or bust. It is painful to see this dragged out like a dying family pet whose owner can't bear to take it for that final trip.

Ill or not, PG is a disgrace. To be paying out the money to agents when we knew what a mess we were in is nothing short of criminal.

I'd agree that selling off a PL standard asset would be a kick in the teeth, but still dont see its sale as a foregone conclusion, just part of the hard nose bargaining/ contingency planning associated with making the deal

[Athers]

As Lostock is a Category One academy we must spend £2.5m per year on it so I'm going to assume everything needed for the first team to be there as well?

If possible it's surely worth considering that they can merge two sites into one considering the cost savings

[TKIZ!]

Don't we have two training grounds? Isn't there another one at Lostock?

[Loyal White]

As Lostock is a Category One academy we must spend £2.5m per year on it so I'm going to assume everything needed for the first team to be there as well?

If possible it's surely worth considering that they can merge two sites into one considering the cost savings

We downgraded it to a Category Two this summer, but the point you are making is valid - it's certainly what I am clinging to.

[BWFC_Insane]

Don't we have two training grounds? Isn't there another one at Lostock?

Academy training ground and light years behind Euxton in terms of facilities so I'm told.

Selling Euxton before we had developed something elsewhere would be a big step backwards.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

As Lostock is a Category One academy we must spend £2.5m per year on it so I'm going to assume everything needed for the first team to be there as well? If possible it's surely worth considering that they can merge two sites into one considering the cost savings

We downgraded it to a Category Two this summer, but the point you are making is valid - it's certainly what I am clinging to.

Was just going to say the same. It's that darned EPPP again, pricing us out. BN report here: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13 ... h_academy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The £2.5m costs of Category One include an insistence on employing no fewer than 18 full-time staff. (To save you the maths, if you purely divide those numbers the staff would be on £138,000 per year or £2,670 a week, but obviously there are many other costs to be included bar those wages.) I make no apologies for once again linking to this piece we did on the EPPP – I can't remember ever getting so enraged by something I've had to sub/edit.

Anyway, I don't think Lostock will be as well-equipped as Euxton but there is surely the possibility of combining the facilities. Given financial stability, it should be possible (I'm not saying probable) to upgrade Lostock as we go along.