Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
Well this is the thing. At the time Dougie insisted he was a full back and even when we had crisis in the centre he wouldn't try him there despite knowing he is perfectly competent there. Baptiste is saying playing full back was a problem for him, so why would he sign knowing that was where he was playing? Very plausible that Baptiste is just being a dick, but it is an odd situation. Baptiste could very easily have said no problem at Bolton, I played 40 odd games, but Blackburn was a good opportunity and Dougie was looking to try something different.Vertigo wrote:If Dougie signed him as a full back, and Baptiste came here knowing he would be played at full back, then there's no problem or confusion is there. Dougie is happy with his centre backs, so there's no need to mix it up and play Baptiste there.
As for your last sentence. For a chunk of the season no one was happy with the centre of defence, not even Dougie. There were games that he could and should have tried Baptiste there earlier in the season.
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That's true and there is no explanation for that. Only Dougie knows.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Well this is the thing. At the time Dougie insisted he was a full back and even when we had crisis in the centre he wouldn't try him there despite knowing he is perfectly competent there. Baptiste is saying playing full back was a problem for him, so why would he sign knowing that was where he was playing? Very plausible that Baptiste is just being a dick, but it is an odd situation. Baptiste could very easily have said no problem at Bolton, I played 40 odd games, but Blackburn was a good opportunity and Dougie was looking to try something different.Vertigo wrote:If Dougie signed him as a full back, and Baptiste came here knowing he would be played at full back, then there's no problem or confusion is there. Dougie is happy with his centre backs, so there's no need to mix it up and play Baptiste there.
As for your last sentence. For a chunk of the season no one was happy with the centre of defence, not even Dougie. There were games that he could and should have tried Baptiste there earlier in the season.
Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
Personally not vey happy about this from what I saw of Baptiste he was excellent last season, mind I wasn't at those home games such as Yeovil. Kevin McNaughton is by no means a bad player but isn't he about 90.
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About 90 times better at full back!
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It's a v weird one. It is clear that he was signed as fullback-yes-centreback-no. I always assumed this came from Baptiste himself, rather than the manager.
Certainly can't rule out, as AT says, Baptiste being a dick, he's shown himself to be a prick with nowt between the ears on a few occasions,but if it is true that it came from Freedman then it's worrying, coz that's an Owen Coyle level of 'I'm right' stubbornness.
Still no sympathy for Baptiste, mind. It was made 100% clear we wanted him as a RB even before he signed. If you wanted to play CB so much you should have signed for one of the other clubs in for you you mercenary prick!
Certainly can't rule out, as AT says, Baptiste being a dick, he's shown himself to be a prick with nowt between the ears on a few occasions,but if it is true that it came from Freedman then it's worrying, coz that's an Owen Coyle level of 'I'm right' stubbornness.
Still no sympathy for Baptiste, mind. It was made 100% clear we wanted him as a RB even before he signed. If you wanted to play CB so much you should have signed for one of the other clubs in for you you mercenary prick!
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I was more on about age, always said Baptiste was better at centre back, I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of who(Baptiste or Freedman) decided that he should play fall back instead, I mean we were starting Zat Knight and Tim Ream at centre back last season at times, who are probably the worst centre back pairing I remember us having.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:About 90 times better at full back!
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This is freedman we're talking about here. He'll probably wait until the transfer window closes and the loan window opens and sign a striker from another Championship side on a 3 month loan.freeindeed wrote:We will definitely sign at least 1 striker. Freedman acknowledged we are short there last week. Quite possibly a loan - I think they will buy someone and get a loan in.adamworthy2002 wrote:I wouldn't get too excited, we need somebody who can score goals.freeindeed wrote:Very impressed with all the transfer activity, and to be honest with Doogie Hauser in general. This is our year I tells ya, promotion via the play-offs
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Yeah cos that is what Freedman wants to do.....adamworthy2002 wrote:This is freedman we're talking about here. He'll probably wait until the transfer window closes and the loan window opens and sign a striker from another Championship side on a 3 month loan.freeindeed wrote:We will definitely sign at least 1 striker. Freedman acknowledged we are short there last week. Quite possibly a loan - I think they will buy someone and get a loan in.adamworthy2002 wrote:I wouldn't get too excited, we need somebody who can score goals.freeindeed wrote:Very impressed with all the transfer activity, and to be honest with Doogie Hauser in general. This is our year I tells ya, promotion via the play-offs
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He can only sign players if Eddie Davies writes out the cheques.
Eddie might be more than happy bumbling around in the championship for now.
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This is the bit where I get to put "I told you so".
But I won't, because that wouldn't be very magnanimous of me. And I like my magnanimity.
But I won't, because that wouldn't be very magnanimous of me. And I like my magnanimity.
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You do know though, that it would have been different then or somethingLord Kangana wrote:This is the bit where I get to put "I told you so".
But I won't, because that wouldn't be very magnanimous of me. And I like my magnanimity.
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Anyway, has it cost us anything to pay Baptiste off? Considering he was such an expensive mistake?
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He's gone on a season long loan. Not sure where the paying off would be. Word from this in the know is that his wage savings have covered the Mcnaughton deal.Lord Kangana wrote:Anyway, has it cost us anything to pay Baptiste off? Considering he was such an expensive mistake?
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Hang on, I thought we always paid the wages of players who were out on loan?
And "in the know". Yeah. Ok.
And "in the know". Yeah. Ok.
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The whole point of a loan like this is to free the wages up.Lord Kangana wrote:Hang on, I thought we always paid the wages of players who were out on loan?
And "in the know". Yeah. Ok.
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Or...to improve the teamBWFC_Insane wrote:The whole point of a loan like this is to free the wages up.Lord Kangana wrote:Hang on, I thought we always paid the wages of players who were out on loan?
And "in the know". Yeah. Ok.
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He's fecked up royally on old Clinton Baptiste has Douglas. Made a right c*nt of himself. Gets to bring in one of his own choices, one of those about whom he said "Judge me on the players I bring in / when the team's my own" and we're offloading his star-buy after a solitary season though undoubtedly still contributing towards that players wages. I'm getting the wooooooooooooord 'Wanker'.
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Exactly.Bruce Rioja wrote:He's fecked up royally on old Clinton Baptiste has Douglas. Made a right c*nt of himself. Gets to bring in one of his own choices, one of those about whom he said "Judge me on the players I bring in / when the team's my own" and we're offloading his star-buy after a solitary season though undoubtedly still contributing towards that players wages. I'm getting the wooooooooooooord 'Wanker'.
Our apparent major signing last year and is now being binned off.
Worrying really.
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Yeah, a manager needs to be stubborn and rigid; sticking to earlier decisions even if they have proved to be incorrect. He should have turned up the opportunity to bring in a superior full back, just to show the strength of one past decision
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
It wasn't a bad decision. He's a good player .... at right-back or centre-half. The decision to play him at left back was forced upon him. The decision to never, not even once, even at the height of our problems, play him at centre-half is a mystery.
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He was the first choice right back, he was played at left back out of sheer desperation. Then later in the season the centre back position was fine and didnt need covering.
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