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Season ticket question

Post by DaniCo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:48 am

Hey There!

I am new user here in the forum, and I am currently pursuing my bachelor degree in business & management, and now working on my final project in consumer behavior.
In order to finish the project, I need to know How many season tickets were sold this year?

thanks!

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:34 pm

Would you not get a more reliable figure from the club?

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:39 pm

Well, I was all set to have a grump old fart rant about lazy fecking students, but managed to hold back. I'm tempted now mind...

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by DaniCo » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:41 pm

Unfortunately, i couldn't get the exact figures from the club (they didn't answer to my email :( ).

Does anybody have the answer?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:45 pm

DaniCo wrote:Unfortunately, i couldn't get the exact figures from the club (they didn't answer to my email :( ).

Does anybody have the answer?

Thanks a lot!

If you can't get the answer from the club your next recourse is to ask members of a football forum who (probably) have as much clue as you.

I'm going for 10,245 - ish

Anyone else?

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:56 pm

Ring them up FFS. Are the youth of today really so feckless? :shock:

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:41 pm

It's around now that I normally make some remark about feckless students, feckful degree courses and dubious fecking Universities.

On this occasion I've decided not to. That could alter however.
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Prufrock » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:56 pm

Feck that, what about fecking dubious jobs?! How the bastarding hell is that a job?
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Re: Season ticket question

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:20 pm

It was ;-
8,570 full
2,607 "double" ("lad & dad" type)
1,958 concession (OAP'S etc)

So, 13,135 all told

Glad to help.
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Prufrock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:05 am

I don't know how you'd figure out how to find that out without a degree.

Seriously, that's a "graduate job"?!
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Hoboh » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:24 am

Especially in the rather cut-throat world of business development.

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:36 pm

I applied for a senior management post with my then employers about 5 years ago. I wasn't shortlisted as I didn't have a degree. I spoke with HR and asked if I'd had a degree in landscape gardening, would I have been shortlisted, to which I received a "Yes, it proves you can work to a particular level". To the question "And 22 years experience doesn't"? I got a "No".

Still, they did change the policy. Now they want a Masters instead. Landscape gardening, microbiology or indeed, business development, would do nicely.
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:50 pm

That's because HR is staffed entirely by clowns :wink:

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by thebish » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:53 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:That's because HR is staffed entirely by clowns :wink:
HR isn't really a job, though, is it? It's just pissing and whining at other people who have jobs or want jobs...

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:07 pm

In 20 years of hiring I have noticed a steady decline in the quality of applicants. Most CVs seem to be either incoherent and filled with series of errors, or contain meaningless nonsense that they must think makes them sound dead clever. In interview many are incapable of anything much beyond repeating what is on their CV. And don't get me started on what some of them think is appropriate dress for an interview. Many of the bright young things, degree or not, seem incapable of any degree of problem solving or common sense.

I think the education system has become so obsessed with targets, categories and choice that soft skills are forgotten. I blame politicians for this, but parents sending their kids out into the job world with few skills are equally to blame.

There are entry level jobs (with progression) out there for people without degrees, or at least there was when I was hiring before moving out here. I did manage to unearth some good 'uns over recent years, but it was depressing how difficult it was to find people competent in basic stuff.

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Prufrock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:13 pm

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Prufrock wrote:I don't know how you'd figure out how to find that out without a degree.

Seriously, that's a "graduate job"?!
You're right; a lot of it is common sense but there's very little choice in the matter now. Putting aside the few successful entrepreneurs who go their own way, there's no "work your way up from the bottom" any more without a degree (unless you go into a trade, which is no bad thing by any means). If you're looking to take out your disbelief about every job requiring a degree now why don't you try taking a look at the generation(s) above mine who now manage said businesses, demanding degrees for entry level stuff? You have a point, there are some truly fecking useless degrees out there and a lot of jobs shouldn't require them, but to infer that us "young fecks" are to blame is just...confusing to say the least. I do think that too many people go to university and that a lot of my generation aren't cut out for academia, but we are where we are. If most entry level jobs, with prospects, now require degrees what choice do people my age or younger have but to go to university? And who are you, or any others on this forum, to make them feel bad for it?

As for my graduate job, it was in technology transfer. The reason it was a graduate role was because it involved finding real world applications for cutting edge technology being developed by scientific organisations like CERN, ESA, Diamond, JET/ITER etc. If you didn't understand the science and research that was being worked on, you wouldn't be able to find said applications. And yes it did involve some "market research" that you and others are deriding. But this role allowed me to move fully into research myself in the nuclear sector, so whilst you and others cynically claim "how is that a graduate job?", I think it opened a lot of doors for me in terms of contacts and experience gained.
Well, you're the one doing the inferring!

Anyway, as it happens I am (I think) part of your generation! And I don't think I've blamed the kids doing the degrees have I?! But f*ck me.

Yon mon wants a degree, not a GCSE or a swimming badge, but [part of] a degree for finding out how many season tickets holders we have. AND, in order to do it, he's [she's] come to a forum where I don't know what the feck he's expecting to happen given surely the best he's getting is the results of someone else's google search.
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:14 pm

thebish wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:That's because HR is staffed entirely by clowns :wink:
HR isn't really a job, though, is it? It's just pissing and whining at other people who have jobs or want jobs...
They specialise in making hiring managers waste significant time because they had a 'good idea'.

e.g. They wanted to advertise in the job centre for 2 weeks before allowing me to use my usual agencies/advertising. I warned them of the avalanche of time wasting that would ensue and my need to get someone in quick to satisfy contractual obligations with our most important client.

When it did indeed turn out to be a waste of time, they bitched and moaned to the MD because they'd spent hours passing CVs to me. The money saving 'good idea' was binned when I advised the MD of the cost of my time alone in going along with this and the fact I had 7 days to find someone before the client went postal at him for failing to meet the terms of a contract the MD had signed!

Of course, Bobo will tell us he's different :fishing:

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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Prufrock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:15 pm

thebish wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:That's because HR is staffed entirely by clowns :wink:
HR isn't really a job, though, is it? It's just pissing and whining at other people who have jobs or want jobs...
If only it was just that. HR is just mainly folk coming up with new schemes to try out to justify the fact they're getting paid for no-one's quite sure what.
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Re: Season ticket question

Post by Prufrock » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:19 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:In 20 years of hiring I have noticed a steady decline in the quality of applicants. Most CVs seem to be either incoherent and filled with series of errors, or contain meaningless nonsense that they must think makes them sound dead clever. In interview many are incapable of anything much beyond repeating what is on their CV. And don't get me started on what some of them think is appropriate dress for an interview. Many of the bright young things, degree or not, seem incapable of any degree of problem solving or common sense.

I think the education system has become so obsessed with targets, categories and choice that soft skills are forgotten. I blame politicians for this, but parents sending their kids out into the job world with few skills are equally to blame.

There are entry level jobs (with progression) out there for people without degrees, or at least there was when I was hiring before moving out here. I did manage to unearth some good 'uns over recent years, but it was depressing how difficult it was to find people competent in basic stuff.
See I'm not convinced declines in education are it, though it's the "obvious answer".

20 years ago there were far more people working in manufacturing, and far fewer people in services. As the economy has changed, the group of kids who would have been turning up at the factory gates the Monday after their last Friday are now getting office jobs, and so of course overall it looks like the intelligence of those turning up for interviews is not as high.
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