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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:11 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
nelson66 wrote:We might just need our Supporters Trust after all if everything goes wrong ...

Well done to all involved
What are the supporters trust going to do? Clubs dead if we ever need to rely on them for anything.
Supporters trust can do one for me....I cancelled my £10 membership a month ago

I'm 100% behind KA....

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:27 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Iles has his say in a BN comment piece.
I think describing Deano as "the elephant in the Boardroom" was a bit harsh...

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:19 pm

Apparently its the Supporters Trust who have personally asked the football league to investigate the clubs accounts - what a complete bunch of c*nts !

"we have asked the Football League, as part of their post-takeover monitoring conditions, to look into this matter"

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:03 pm

I'm really strugling here to decipher what they hope to achieve by pushing for investigations that could drop the club right in the shxt? Supporters Trust? Fine support this is....
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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:13 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Apparently its the Supporters Trust who have personally asked the football league to investigate the clubs accounts - what a complete bunch of c*nts !

"we have asked the Football League, as part of their post-takeover monitoring conditions, to look into this matter"

Without pre-judging or casting any aspersions, I think there have historically been issues with Ken Anderson which are well chronicled elsewhere. I'm happy to leave it be for now, but I do think we need to ensure that everything's above board...

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by TKIZ! » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:28 pm

Apologies for seeming really thick in all of this but I have one question. Did the League, as a condition of the takeover, say that KA would have to show on a monthly basis that the club could be a'growing concern' or am I dreaming that?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:06 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:Apparently its the Supporters Trust who have personally asked the football league to investigate the clubs accounts - what a complete bunch of c*nts !

"we have asked the Football League, as part of their post-takeover monitoring conditions, to look into this matter"

Without pre-judging or casting any aspersions, I think there have historically been issues with Ken Anderson which are well chronicled elsewhere. I'm happy to leave it be for now, but I do think we need to ensure that everything's above board...
He claims it isn't chronicled accurately. Regardless, the supporters trust once again show themselves to be attention seeking gobshites of the highest order.

Feck, enough people are monitoring the club without them sticking their oar in whenever the mood takes them. Also they seem to react to news reports that have little new news in them. Entirely reactive social media shitgibbons.

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:26 pm

Absolute set of attention seeking sanctimonious arseholes - just because KA wouldn't meet them privately they have put the knife in, they call themselves BWFC supporters when they are actually nothing of the sort.

Constantly trying to undermine the club, constantly trying to undermine the owners - they should all just crawl back under the stone they came from - they should be ashamed of themselves, how on earth they can call themselves supporters

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:12 am

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Peter Thompson wrote:Apparently its the Supporters Trust who have personally asked the football league to investigate the clubs accounts - what a complete bunch of c*nts !

"we have asked the Football League, as part of their post-takeover monitoring conditions, to look into this matter"

Without pre-judging or casting any aspersions, I think there have historically been issues with Ken Anderson which are well chronicled elsewhere. I'm happy to leave it be for now, but I do think we need to ensure that everything's above board...
He claims it isn't chronicled accurately. Regardless, the supporters trust once again show themselves to be attention seeking gobshites of the highest order.

Feck, enough people are monitoring the club without them sticking their oar in whenever the mood takes them. Also they seem to react to news reports that have little new news in them. Entirely reactive social media shitgibbons.
Well he would, wouldn't he.

Reality and fact is he was struck off as a Director for 10? years. Whilst I agree that the ST shouldn't be sticking their oar in completely, we still should have the Accounts. That's a fairly standard thing for running a business...

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Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:38 am

Personally I like the BWFCST is asking tough questions. Moreover I feel that that is their best role.

Owners of football clubs all over the country have proven themselves to be unfit for purpose. From Blackburn to Charlton to Coventry, owners have arrived with frivolous intentions and are destroying once proud clubs that have thrived from prudent and careful direction for decades. Owning English football clubs has become a fashionable, populist exercise for hard nosed wealthy people, but it has become a lottery whether that benefits loyal supporters of those clubs.

Ken Anderson, who has never had a role as owner/chairman before, appears to be steering the club satisfactorily from early impressions but nobody really knows what is really going on. What we do know is that we are still under scrutiny and still haven't met our obligations as a business after eights months of this regime, despite promises to the contrary. Until our accounts are submitted and penalties paid and embargoes are lifted then we should as supporters not be satisfied with our new ownership imho. And if Ken Anderson does start to show he is a poor owner/chairman then organizations like the BWFCST will hopefully call him out at an early stage and allow us all to take action to either get rid of him, or force him to act correctly.

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:09 am

I'm not a fan of the ST, but would anyone feel different if right now we were sitting 15th in the table? It's easy to brush concerns away when things on the pitch are good, but if they were indifferent or worse I suspect there'd be a greater clamour for answers.

I am concerned as the only reason for delay that I can see is either trying to hide something or delaying something to avoid some sort of sanction. I think the ST are right to be asking questions, just that they shouldn't have postured in the way they did around the time of the takeover and the aftermath.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:33 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I'm not a fan of the ST, but would anyone feel different if right now we were sitting 15th in the table? It's easy to brush concerns away when things on the pitch are good, but if they were indifferent or worse I suspect there'd be a greater clamour for answers.

I am concerned as the only reason for delay that I can see is either trying to hide something or delaying something to avoid some sort of sanction. I think the ST are right to be asking questions, just that they shouldn't have postured in the way they did around the time of the takeover and the aftermath.
I'm not brushing away concerns. I'm saying the supporters trust are nice people who wanted to own the club and run it. There are people in the trust who don't believe in businessmen running footba clubs and think every club should be fan owned projects that basically can't compete financially, but hey at least the fans are involved right?

They aren't honest or transparent and yet they push their agenda continually. I imagine they aren't representing the majority of their membership.

I wanted an ST who would work to get a seat on the board and act as a genuine safety valve that way. Instead they just want to post quips on Twitter and write 'letters'. Let's say Ken is a bad 'un, I'm sure a few letters from the trust will change that....

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Hoboh » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:30 am

I think after what happened at Blackpool, folk should be a little more careful what they say about Anderson.

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:31 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I'm not a fan of the ST, but would anyone feel different if right now we were sitting 15th in the table? It's easy to brush concerns away when things on the pitch are good, but if they were indifferent or worse I suspect there'd be a greater clamour for answers.

I am concerned as the only reason for delay that I can see is either trying to hide something or delaying something to avoid some sort of sanction. I think the ST are right to be asking questions, just that they shouldn't have postured in the way they did around the time of the takeover and the aftermath.
I'm not brushing away concerns. I'm saying the supporters trust are tw*ts who wanted to own the club and run it. There are people in the trust who don't believe in businessmen running footba clubs and think every club should be fan owned projects that basically can't compete financially, but hey at least the fans are involved right?

They aren't honest or transparent and yet they push their agenda continually. I imagine they aren't representing the majority of their membership.

I wanted an ST who would work to get a seat on the board and act as a genuine safety valve that way. Instead they just want to post quips on Twitter and write 'letters'. Let's say Ken is a bad 'un, I'm sure a few letters from the trust will change that....
Don't disagree with any of that. A proper trust should be asking questions, just not as many shit ones they have been.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:20 pm

Hoboh wrote:I think after what happened at Blackpool, folk should be a little more careful what they say about Anderson.
That was a different circus with different monkeys, but you're right that what we say on this forum is legally actionable.

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Post by Andy Waller » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:07 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I think after what happened at Blackpool, folk should be a little more careful what they say about Anderson.
That was a different circus with different monkeys, but you're right that what we say on this forum is legally actionable.

Even if i say his hair is a bit of a mad shade?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:56 pm

Andy Waller wrote:
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Hoboh wrote:I think after what happened at Blackpool, folk should be a little more careful what they say about Anderson.
That was a different circus with different monkeys, but you're right that what we say on this forum is legally actionable.
Even if i say his hair is a bit of a mad shade?
First question is can they sue; second, bigger question is will they sue.

Could he sue for you saying his hair is a bit of a mad shade? The legal question is whether it reduces the plaintiff's reputation in the eyes of a right-minded member of the public (a phrase subject to predictably tortuous legal debate). That would be a hard one for him to prove, but also not easy for you to disprove.

But you get the point.

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:04 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I think after what happened at Blackpool, folk should be a little more careful what they say about Anderson.
That was a different circus with different monkeys, but you're right that what we say on this forum is legally actionable.
Even if i say his hair is a bit of a mad shade?
First question is can they sue; second, bigger question is will they sue.

Could he sue for you saying his hair is a bit of a mad shade? The legal question is whether it reduces the plaintiff's reputation in the eyes of a right-minded member of the public (a phrase subject to predictably tortuous legal debate). That would be a hard one for him to prove, but also not easy for you to disprove.

But you get the point.
I'm quite happy to stick with there having been problems articulated elsewhere, because there have and he can't do diddly around someone posting that he was struck off as a Director, because he was. As to whether anyone connected with Blackpool may or may not be complete c*nts, I'm not close enough to the complete c*nts to express a well balanced opinion either way. So I wouldn't dream of it.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:25 pm

To be clear, Worthy, I wasn't grumbling about you or indeed anyone in particular. Just a public service warning.

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Re: BW Supporters Trust

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:27 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:To be clear, Worthy, I wasn't grumbling about you or indeed anyone in particular. Just a public service warning.
Yes-sir. Trying to stick to the factual. :-)

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