Which muppet can we appoint next?
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At last, someone talking sense!Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:not that we believe everything we read in the papers as it's all bollocks.
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Heh. Yeah, been thinking about this and reading it back, it sounds like it's our old friend "context".LeverEnd wrote:Presumably meaning being sacked from your last job doesn't necessarily make you a bad manager. I wonder who 'one of the staff' is? Deano probably!Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:BWFCi's last sentence, or that weird closing quote in the BN?Gary the Enfield wrote:I don't understand the last sentence at all.......Ken said rather than wrote:I spoke to one of the staff yesterday about one of the names and he sounded disappointed – but then would we say no to Jose Mourinho if he wanted the job?
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The fuller quote contains these words, which have been broken in in classic newspaper style into single-sentence paragraphs (because newspapers have narrow columns and they want you to have multiple entry points):
Taken as a whole, that makes more sense - as you say, LE, a poor previous job doesn't bar you from being good again, because Mourinho was hoofed out of Chelsea etc etc.Ken said rather than wrote:We have spoken to some managers who perhaps did not do as well as they’d hope in their previous job but we have to take into consideration everything they have done. You have to ask yourself whether they had the tools to succeed in that last position or not? I spoke to one of the staff yesterday about one of the names and he sounded disappointed – but then would we say no to Jose Mourinho if he wanted the job?
Down at our level, I'd say that is particularly relevant for Nigel Adkins, who didn't take Sheffield United up – although neither did three predecessors, it's not an easy club to manage ("Did he have the tools?")
Cotterill's last job was Bristol City, whom he took up in style but had hovering round the relegation line. Powell's last job was Huddersfield, didn't exactly "fail" but nor were trees ripped up. Neither of those two could really claim to have been all that "successful at [League One and] Championship level" in terms of finishing positions:
• Cotterill took Burnley to 13th (2004/5), 17th (2005/6) and 15th (2006/7), Forest to 19th (2011/12)
• Powell's Charlton finished 9th in 2012/13 but they were bottom when he left in March 2014
• Adkins had Scunny in 23rd in 2007/8 and 20th in 2009/10, then took Southampton to the Premier League in 2011/12 as runners-up to Reading, who took him on when Saints sacked him the following January - he took the Royals down out of the top flight and they were 16th when they sacked him in December 2014.
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Jose Mourinho
Now off our list, signed for some Yankee team.
Now off our list, signed for some Yankee team.
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Would prefer the Pearson version of (Nigel) to be on that list!
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Nigel Adkins is my choice out of those interviewed by some distance
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Owen Coyle free!
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Take more than ping-pong and ear-flicking to get us away from the current mess, I reckon.plymouth wanderer wrote:Owen Coyle free!
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Mine too. See we can agree! Not sure I have the same strength of preference as you do but he has the right experience.Peter Thompson wrote:Nigel Adkins is my choice out of those interviewed by some distance
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Of course it isn't true. Iles wrote it. Or does that not apply in this instance?Peter Thompson wrote:Surely none of this can be true - how can we have interviewed the likes of Adkins, Powell, Cotterill when Anderson isn't to be trusted, he and DH have fallen out, they never communicate, KA's not put his money in yet, we couldn't even afford to keep Maher & Thelkeld, reality is biting, the players haven't been paid for July yet !! no manager would be interested whilst we are in a transfer embargo, no sign of us ever getting the embargo lifted, we can't even afford Hill & Sheridan.....BWFC_Insane wrote:Where am I booing? So long as they're getting on with it, no problem. They are at least interviewing managers with relative experience.thebish wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Interviewed by Ken alone it sounds. Perhaps he's stuck his cash in to get the casting vote?Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:BN piece is live. Anderson speaks. It seems he doesn't want Reid. Front runners now Steve Cotterill, Chris Powell and Nigel Adkins, all interviewed yesterday. One other is currently employed and in probably related news we may also be keeping tabs on the Steve Evans situation.
Don't fancy Powell. Other two would do.
ha!
Anderson hasn't put his money in - boooooooooooooo!
Anderson has put his money in - but only to get what he wants - booooooooooooooooo!
(didn't Anderson say the money was available when it was needed? That could also be what happened, no?)
BTW I thought according to Iles the 4 man shortlist was Reid, Adkins, Redfearn & Steve Thompson ?, and that it must be true because Iles gets his information directly from DH
Anyway... Adkins, Powell, Evans then Cotterill for me.
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Didn't know about Cotteril and Notts Cnty. All the other promotions from the four have come with relatively big cash dollar though, haven't they, apart from Adkins at Scunthorpe. Also, admittedly in the cushiest of all the relatively cushy other jobs, his Saints team didn't just go up, they went up again before being comfortable in the Prem when he was widely felt to be unfairly sacked for some random Argentinean bloke.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Yeah, reasonable enough. I might be coming round to Cotterill a bit - that title-winning Bristol City side (2015) got 99 points and 96 goals, and you have to take your hat off to what he did at Notts County five years before: took over in Feb with them in 7th, romped to the Fourth Division title; under him they played 18 games, W14 D3 L1, F40 A6. That doesn't sound like dull functional football (maybe that comes later in the higher leagues?) - and most intriguingly, at County he was effectively doing it with someone else's players, which is the sign of someone who can coach as well as purchase, something which will be important to us.Prufrock wrote:Mainly, can't stand the cnut. If his record was miles better than everyone else's I'd be prepared to suck it up, but I don't think it's toooo bad a field. Purely on record I'd probably have Evans second sneaking above Powell and Coterill but comfortably behind Nigel Weirdo Adkins, for whom my colours are now firmly nailed to the mast.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Not disagreeing, just asking: is that a personal, "taste" thing? If Evans was a nice bloke with the same record, would you feel the same?Prufrock wrote:Adkins
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For me.
Cotterill might still make me nervous but I think I might be persuading myself he's up there with Adkins. Evans I don't hate as much as most. Powell seems a nice bloke but might be lacking the clout of others. And Iles says Ken hints mysteriously at a couple of others... not that we believe everything we read in the papers as it's all bollocks.
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Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
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Not for me. Did his best work with Walliams and not so good solo...Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
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BWFC_Insane wrote:Not for me. Did his best work with Walliams and not so good solo...Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
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When giving interviews, in the same way that I always want to hand Sean Dyche a glass of water, I always want to creep up on McDermott and make him jump, wekken the 4ucker up a bit.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
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Bruce Rioja wrote:When giving interviews, in the same way that I always want to hand Sean Dyche a glass of water, I always want to creep up on McDermott and make him jump, wekken the 4ucker up a bit.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Not for me. Did his best work with Walliams and not so good solo...Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Brian McDermott's been sacked by Reading, again. Not my cup of tea - doesn't know the division - but others might fancy him. Which might help if he's another option for the Champo clubs seeking managers.
Matt Lucas:
Brian McDermott
And no, I haven't 'done an Enfield', I have deliberately transposed the wrong name against the wrong picture.
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^ and broken the internet with the sheer massiveness of the picture size!
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thebish wrote:^ and broken the internet with the sheer massiveness of the picture size!
It's his head. It's fecking massive!
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Gary the Enfield wrote:thebish wrote:^ and broken the internet with the sheer massiveness of the picture size!
It's his head. It's fecking massive!
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And scary if you line it up so his eyes mouth and nose fill the screen.Gary the Enfield wrote:thebish wrote:^ and broken the internet with the sheer massiveness of the picture size!
It's his head. It's fecking massive!
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