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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?
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Anyway, there's more from Ken on the BN.
Anyway, there's more from Ken on the BN.
Marc Iles is saying unequivocally that the three interviewed are Adkins, Cotterill and Powell. He also reiterates the previous story about a currently-employed chap:Ken said rather than wrote:I interviewed three different people with very different chemistry and I have to say it is a very difficult choice, which seems to be getting harder by the moment. Even after the interviews, when we thought we knew exactly what we had to choose between, we ended up with more questions than answers. It was a very, very impressive bunch. It is now about looking at the chemistry and picking which man will be the best fit for Bolton Wanderers.
We have a choice to make but I don’t think, overall, there is a lot between them in terms of what they have achieved in management. We have to look beyond that now and see what they are like as people. Look at Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho, both obviously very capable managers but completely different people who go about things a completely different way. The three men interviewed at the start of the week are all successful in their own right but it boils down to which one is right for Bolton?
Seems to me that he's saying the currently-employed mon *isn't* Evans, so that could make for six candidates. No wonder Iles is saying "A final decision could be made as early as next week – but Anderson admits he and Holdsworth are still weighing up pros and cons of all the personalities involved, which could add some extra time to the process."Marc Iles wrote:It is hoped another manager, who is already in a job, will sit down for talks in the next few days. But The Bolton News understands Wanderers are still not a closed shop and that two other candidates have now made contact to say they wish to be considered. One of those men is thought to be Leeds United boss Steve Evans.
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I agree that the personality is important. But I do rather think there is an element of luck/lottery involved. I'd wager 90% of managerial appointments in football are ultimately failures of one kind or another.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:<shakes head>
Anyway, there's more from Ken on the BN.Marc Iles is saying unequivocally that the three interviewed are Adkins, Cotterill and Powell. He also reiterates the previous story about a currently-employed chap:Ken said rather than wrote:I interviewed three different people with very different chemistry and I have to say it is a very difficult choice, which seems to be getting harder by the moment. Even after the interviews, when we thought we knew exactly what we had to choose between, we ended up with more questions than answers. It was a very, very impressive bunch. It is now about looking at the chemistry and picking which man will be the best fit for Bolton Wanderers.
We have a choice to make but I don’t think, overall, there is a lot between them in terms of what they have achieved in management. We have to look beyond that now and see what they are like as people. Look at Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho, both obviously very capable managers but completely different people who go about things a completely different way. The three men interviewed at the start of the week are all successful in their own right but it boils down to which one is right for Bolton?Seems to me that he's saying the currently-employed mon *isn't* Evans, so that could make for six candidates. No wonder Iles is saying "A final decision could be made as early as next week – but Anderson admits he and Holdsworth are still weighing up pros and cons of all the personalities involved, which could add some extra time to the process."Marc Iles wrote:It is hoped another manager, who is already in a job, will sit down for talks in the next few days. But The Bolton News understands Wanderers are still not a closed shop and that two other candidates have now made contact to say they wish to be considered. One of those men is thought to be Leeds United boss Steve Evans.
Much of what Ken says is sensible, apart from the first line. It is important to get the right person, but to say the decision is "getting harder by the minute" just sounds a bit stupid. These decisions need to be taken and don't get any harder just because your candidate pool increases. You just have more choice and can afford to be more selective.....
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If you have 3 apples and someone asks you to choose which one you want to eat, but just as you are about to decide someone puts 2 more apples down and says there maybe another (possibly juicier and tastier) apple to come in a minute, is your decision just the same or is it suddenly harder?BWFC_Insane wrote:I agree that the personality is important. But I do rather think there is an element of luck/lottery involved. I'd wager 90% of managerial appointments in football are ultimately failures of one kind or another.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:<shakes head>
Anyway, there's more from Ken on the BN.Marc Iles is saying unequivocally that the three interviewed are Adkins, Cotterill and Powell. He also reiterates the previous story about a currently-employed chap:Ken said rather than wrote:I interviewed three different people with very different chemistry and I have to say it is a very difficult choice, which seems to be getting harder by the moment. Even after the interviews, when we thought we knew exactly what we had to choose between, we ended up with more questions than answers. It was a very, very impressive bunch. It is now about looking at the chemistry and picking which man will be the best fit for Bolton Wanderers.
We have a choice to make but I don’t think, overall, there is a lot between them in terms of what they have achieved in management. We have to look beyond that now and see what they are like as people. Look at Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho, both obviously very capable managers but completely different people who go about things a completely different way. The three men interviewed at the start of the week are all successful in their own right but it boils down to which one is right for Bolton?Seems to me that he's saying the currently-employed mon *isn't* Evans, so that could make for six candidates. No wonder Iles is saying "A final decision could be made as early as next week – but Anderson admits he and Holdsworth are still weighing up pros and cons of all the personalities involved, which could add some extra time to the process."Marc Iles wrote:It is hoped another manager, who is already in a job, will sit down for talks in the next few days. But The Bolton News understands Wanderers are still not a closed shop and that two other candidates have now made contact to say they wish to be considered. One of those men is thought to be Leeds United boss Steve Evans.
Much of what Ken says is sensible, apart from the first line. It is important to get the right person, but to say the decision is "getting harder by the minute" just sounds a bit stupid. These decisions need to be taken and don't get any harder just because your candidate pool increases. You just have more choice and can afford to be more selective.....
Of course the decision needs to be taken. It just doesn't need to be taken immediately. The new manager cannot, currently, dip into the transfer market as we are (still) under an embargo. Therefore he can only work with what he has. A squad who, currently, are all on holiday. So what's the rush? Really?
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Well, we could do with having a manager who might then contact free or cheap players we might sign. True, we can't sign them yet, but we can alert them to our interest before they go elsewhere.
However, I get yer point - I'd rather wait and get the best possible manager than rush it.
However, I get yer point - I'd rather wait and get the best possible manager than rush it.
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Could we make it swedes instead of apples? Then we'd all know who we were talking about...
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That is an argument for waiting. But that isn't necessarily making the decision "harder". A larger better pool is better than a smaller shitter one...Gary the Enfield wrote:
If you have 3 apples and someone asks you to choose which one you want to eat, but just as you are about to decide someone puts 2 more apples down and says there maybe another (possibly juicier and tastier) apple to come in a minute, is your decision just the same or is it suddenly harder?
Of course the decision needs to be taken. It just doesn't need to be taken immediately. The new manager cannot, currently, dip into the transfer market as we are (still) under an embargo. Therefore he can only work with what he has. A squad who, currently, are all on holiday. So what's the rush? Really?
You still have to pick the man who best meets your requirements (whatever they are).
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So which of the 3 (5)/(6) apples would you choose? They're all edible. Possibly.BWFC_Insane wrote:Gary the Enfield wrote:
If you have 3 apples and someone asks you to choose which one you want to eat, but just as you are about to decide someone puts 2 more apples down and says there maybe another (possibly juicier and tastier) apple to come in a minute, is your decision just the same or is it suddenly harder?
Of course the decision needs to be taken. It just doesn't need to be taken immediately. The new manager cannot, currently, dip into the transfer market as we are (still) under an embargo. Therefore he can only work with what he has. A squad who, currently, are all on holiday. So what's the rush? Really?
That is an argument for waiting. But that isn't necessarily making the decision "harder". A larger better pool is better than a smaller shitter one...
You still have to pick the man who best meets your requirements (whatever they are).
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Entirely depends on the quality of apples 4-6 and whether they are a) in my price range b) likely to be eaten before I can get to the shop.Gary the Enfield wrote:So which of the 3 (5)/(6) apples would you choose? They're all edible. Possibly.BWFC_Insane wrote:Gary the Enfield wrote:
If you have 3 apples and someone asks you to choose which one you want to eat, but just as you are about to decide someone puts 2 more apples down and says there maybe another (possibly juicier and tastier) apple to come in a minute, is your decision just the same or is it suddenly harder?
Of course the decision needs to be taken. It just doesn't need to be taken immediately. The new manager cannot, currently, dip into the transfer market as we are (still) under an embargo. Therefore he can only work with what he has. A squad who, currently, are all on holiday. So what's the rush? Really?
That is an argument for waiting. But that isn't necessarily making the decision "harder". A larger better pool is better than a smaller shitter one...
You still have to pick the man who best meets your requirements (whatever they are).
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BREAKING REAL ACTUAL NEWS
It won't be Chris Powell - he's off to Derby as Nigel Pearson's assistant
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It won't be Chris Powell - he's off to Derby as Nigel Pearson's assistant
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?
There's only Neil Warnock left...
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I think you're beginning to understand how the decision is made more difficult. Well done Grasshopper.BWFC_Insane wrote:Entirely depends on the quality of apples 4-6 and whether they are a) in my price range b) likely to be eaten before I can get to the shop.Gary the Enfield wrote:So which of the 3 (5)/(6) apples would you choose? They're all edible. Possibly.BWFC_Insane wrote:Gary the Enfield wrote:
If you have 3 apples and someone asks you to choose which one you want to eat, but just as you are about to decide someone puts 2 more apples down and says there maybe another (possibly juicier and tastier) apple to come in a minute, is your decision just the same or is it suddenly harder?
Of course the decision needs to be taken. It just doesn't need to be taken immediately. The new manager cannot, currently, dip into the transfer market as we are (still) under an embargo. Therefore he can only work with what he has. A squad who, currently, are all on holiday. So what's the rush? Really?
That is an argument for waiting. But that isn't necessarily making the decision "harder". A larger better pool is better than a smaller shitter one...
You still have to pick the man who best meets your requirements (whatever they are).
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The Adkins apple seems very inoffensive and might be quite tasty. I'd personally rather go with a likeable manager, like Adkins, unless it was unliked by everyone else in a kind of seige mentality way. The problem is I haven't had a major problem with any appointment since Megson, so what do I know? Maybe we need a bad apple!?
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Or a banana. Don't forget the bananas.Armchair Wanderer wrote:The Adkins apple seems very inoffensive and might be quite tasty. I'd personally rather go with a likeable manager, like Adkins, unless it was unliked by everyone else in a kind of seige mentality way. The problem is I haven't had a major problem with any appointment since Megson, so what do I know? Maybe we need a bad apple!?
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We tried a pear in 1995. That didn't work either.
Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?
Marc Iles @MarcIles 19h19 hours ago
Marc Iles Retweeted Paul Davis
Over t'hills, Alan Stubbs wanted by Rotherham. And, report claims, Bolton. #bwfc #rufc
Marc Iles Retweeted Paul Davis
Over t'hills, Alan Stubbs wanted by Rotherham. And, report claims, Bolton. #bwfc #rufc
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I though Rotherham had Colin W@nker already ?TKIZ! wrote:Marc Iles @MarcIles 19h19 hours ago
Marc Iles Retweeted Paul Davis
Over t'hills, Alan Stubbs wanted by Rotherham. And, report claims, Bolton. #bwfc #rufc
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On the BN:Brian McDermott's 'people' have already been in touch and we're considering it (carefully phrased by Iles in conditionals: "under consideration by the Wanderers owners", "he could now be interviewed in the next week").
There's also mention of two managers currently working elsewhere, one of them Steve Evans, the other unnamed: "Both men are expected to become available in the foreseeable future which means they can hold talks without the need for compensation." Alan Stubbs is mentioned but in more of the past tense - he's expected to join Rotherham, and we favour someone with League One/Champo experience. (NB I don't think McDermott has ever managed in the third tier.)
So there's still (it seems to me) an unnamed manager, currently employed but about not to be (so compensation isn't an issue), with relevant experience. Who could that be? Some have suggested David Flitcroft, but are Bury giving him the flick? Or could it possibly be Phil Brown somehow extricating himself from Southend?
There's also mention of two managers currently working elsewhere, one of them Steve Evans, the other unnamed: "Both men are expected to become available in the foreseeable future which means they can hold talks without the need for compensation." Alan Stubbs is mentioned but in more of the past tense - he's expected to join Rotherham, and we favour someone with League One/Champo experience. (NB I don't think McDermott has ever managed in the third tier.)
So there's still (it seems to me) an unnamed manager, currently employed but about not to be (so compensation isn't an issue), with relevant experience. Who could that be? Some have suggested David Flitcroft, but are Bury giving him the flick? Or could it possibly be Phil Brown somehow extricating himself from Southend?
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Stubbs can feck off. I'd interview him, then give him a knowing nod at the end and tell him to watch this space.
McDermott is spectacularly uninspiring. I can't see one argument for him over Adkins.
Flitcroft, well, I wouldn't be too disappointed, quite like him, but to trot out an old horse, I'd rather have his brother.
McDermott is spectacularly uninspiring. I can't see one argument for him over Adkins.
Flitcroft, well, I wouldn't be too disappointed, quite like him, but to trot out an old horse, I'd rather have his brother.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?
As long as he fits the Brussels directive on straightness.TonyDomingos wrote:Or a banana. Don't forget the bananas.Armchair Wanderer wrote:The Adkins apple seems very inoffensive and might be quite tasty. I'd personally rather go with a likeable manager, like Adkins, unless it was unliked by everyone else in a kind of seige mentality way. The problem is I haven't had a major problem with any appointment since Megson, so what do I know? Maybe we need a bad apple!?
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Homophobe.Prufrock wrote:As long as he fits the Brussels directive on straightness.TonyDomingos wrote:Or a banana. Don't forget the bananas.Armchair Wanderer wrote:The Adkins apple seems very inoffensive and might be quite tasty. I'd personally rather go with a likeable manager, like Adkins, unless it was unliked by everyone else in a kind of seige mentality way. The problem is I haven't had a major problem with any appointment since Megson, so what do I know? Maybe we need a bad apple!?
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