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Re: For new signings, ask the man from the Pru

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:42 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
malcd1 wrote:Marc Iles tweeted that he does not expect a decision today or a statement from club.
Both will be along shortly then.
Presumably in 48 hours :D

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:48 am

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malcd1 wrote:Marc Iles tweeted that he does not expect a decision today or a statement from club.
I suspect today is a meeting to agree what paperwork the club must produce that would satisfy the FL enough to get the embargo lifted.

Then it is a question of producing the assurances they ask for.

Given that the transfer window SLAMS open on Friday do you not think they would have discussed this before now?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:58 am

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malcd1 wrote:Marc Iles tweeted that he does not expect a decision today or a statement from club.
I suspect today is a meeting to agree what paperwork the club must produce that would satisfy the FL enough to get the embargo lifted.

Then it is a question of producing the assurances they ask for.

Given that the transfer window SLAMS open on Friday do you not think they would have discussed this before now?
When it "officially" opens is not really relevant. Clubs are already making lots of signings.

The league put back the meeting, and I'm sure some initial discussions have taken place but I suspect that it is more than have a nice chat and hey presto no embargo. Sure there is a mountain of paperwork to get through in order to get it lifted.

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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:22 pm

^^^ there you go. Worrying again. Nothing good comes from it.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:55 pm

I see that Niall Maher's signed for Bury. Was he one of the ones that we released at the end of last season? Looked half decent when I saw him.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:36 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:I see that Niall Maher's signed for Bury. Was he one of the ones that we released at the end of last season? Looked half decent when I saw him.
Yep, he was. Good luck to him, except against us.

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Post by jonnycooper » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:20 pm

Embargo or not! Nobody on here knows that the Club or Parky has,nt already been lining up new signings in readiness for the lifting of said Embargo!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:43 pm

jonnycooper wrote:Embargo or not! Nobody on here knows that the Club or Parky has,nt already been lining up new signings in readiness for the lifting of said Embargo!
I'd like to think that that's exactly what he's been doing, Jonny. Is there anyone at Bratfert worth nicking do we know?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:57 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:Embargo or not! Nobody on here knows that the Club or Parky has,nt already been lining up new signings in readiness for the lifting of said Embargo!
I'd like to think that that's exactly what he's been doing, Jonny. Is there anyone at Bratfert worth nicking do we know?
Supposedly he has a deal with one of his ex players, Proctor in place should we get clearance...

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:17 am

Presumably the vast majority of folk worth having will be saying "I'd love to, but this other team are offering me an actual contract".
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Post by Bijou Bob » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:53 am

I would have thought the first question for any player approached would be, " It's alright having a contract, but will you actually pay me"?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:19 am

Three young trialists expected to play at Colls: Belgian winger Jonathan Kindermans, Romanian winger Constantin Sandu and English striker Jarvis Nutt. Probably more for the Academy than first team, but hey - you're old enough if you're good enough or we're desperate enough. (per BN)

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:32 pm

If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:10 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
It's a serious and very complicated question but I would assume that most who come over to work - especially on fixed-term contracts, like footballers - would be allowed to stay.

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Lord Kangana wrote:If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
I'd like to know who has actually said anybody would be kicked out who is already living and working here?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:06 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
I'd like to know who has actually said anybody would be kicked out who is already living and working here?
But what about people who come now? Or post article 50 enactment and then what happens for players wanting to come after that? Do we go back to needing work permits for European players?

Would mean teams like Bolton in league one would be domestic players only.

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Post by Rjs37 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
I'd like to know who has actually said anybody would be kicked out who is already living and working here?
But what about people who come now? Or post article 50 enactment and then what happens for players wanting to come after that? Do we go back to needing work permits for European players?

Would mean teams like Bolton in league one would be domestic players only.
It would likely be post EU exit. i.e. after the 2 years. No laws have changed as of yet, so the freedom of movement is still currently in place. They won't retrospectively kick people out who moved here completely legally.

I think the bigger question is when it comes to signing for a new club (after the 2 years), would they have to apply for a visa at that point to continue working in this country?
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Re: For new signings, ask the man from the Pru

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:58 pm

Tyler Garretts gone. Is Moxey still here?

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Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:40 pm

Who the fck is Tyler Garret ??
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Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:43 pm

Rjs37 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:If we sign Europeans on say a three year contract, and article 50 is signed soon, how will that affect the right to work of these players? Would we be anle to claim either compensation or off our insurance to cover the cost of potentially losing them?
I'd like to know who has actually said anybody would be kicked out who is already living and working here?
But what about people who come now? Or post article 50 enactment and then what happens for players wanting to come after that? Do we go back to needing work permits for European players?

Would mean teams like Bolton in league one would be domestic players only.
It would likely be post EU exit. i.e. after the 2 years. No laws have changed as of yet, so the freedom of movement is still currently in place. They won't retrospectively kick people out who moved here completely legally.

I think the bigger question is when it comes to signing for a new club (after the 2 years), would they have to apply for a visa at that point to continue working in this country?
They'd set the rules going forward similar to what exists now for players from outside the EU. Standards would have to be met and then no worries.

It may have an impact on the lower level players but would that be a bad thing for local talent ? At present even clubs in the blooming Conference have piles of non-UK players which must impact local development.
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