I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:12 pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: Historical note: in our last 13 games pre-Parky at this level we won 11, drew one, lost one. Now that's a good run.
A time I remember so well. A time of, if not arrogance then certainly one of extreme confidence. Things like Exeter taking the lead at our place and celebrating like they'd won summat being met with a collective make-the-most-of-it Paddock shrug (BWFC 4 Exeter 1) and going into the last 10 or 15 minutes at home to Chester with the score at 0-0 knowing that there was only going to be one outcome (BWFC 5 Chester 0). Wonderful days. Thanks, Bruce. :)
Got a bit nervy towards the end though, Stoke game and Preston particularly.
After what we saw at Hull nothing was going to stop us. ;)
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:00 pm

That 'We are goin' up' chant is still ringing in my ears from the end of the Stoke game. Whole stadium. Even the Manny Road. Electric.
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by Bijou Bob » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:17 pm

I thought the new shape looked good yesterday and we rarely looked out of control of the match barring the first ten minutes of the second half. Spearing, Thorpe and Vela played really well (Vela had fantastic energy and seems to be a changed man these last 2 games) and the back four coped with almost everything, bar 2 careless mistakes from Wilson. Oldham changed their shape early doors to try and mark Spearing out of the game, but he never looked troubled and ran the show. Bizarrely I thought, Ameobi was far better in a defensive role than an offensive one. He can manoeuvre himself into good positions at times going forward but seems to have no idea what to do with the ball once he gets within sniffing distance of the box.

Great to see Deryck get onto the park and Clough finally break his recent duck. I still don't think we have played particularly well yet, but yesterday was a great improvement on what we've seen so far.

The only downside for me were a few missed chances and Proctor, whose cameo performance was yet again, nothing short of awful.
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Post by nelson66 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:51 pm

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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by boltonboris » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:15 pm

officer_dibble wrote:PT you were right on Trotter (thought Thorpe played really well).

But

Calling Vela lazy - hang your head fella.

I'd be surprised if sny outfield player covered half the distance he did today. He's clearly been told to play a new role by Parky and he's reaping the benefits. End product missing a bit - more mcateer blade covering than nolan goalscoring imo.

The Spearing/Beevers/Wheater axis was mom though. Well worth that I thought.
Quite.. Vela looks excellent when he covers the ground and gets around the pitch with a bit more freedom and vigour. He was very good first half.

Spearing was 8/10 throughout and Beevers continues to look like our best signing in ages.

Clough ran them ragged fist half, but worryingly faded in the 2nd before his goal. Not sure if he still has fitness issues, or if it's just inexperience.

Madine worked hard, but is still too limited for me to be effective. That passback of a shot epitomised him.

Apart from a couple of 10 min spells midway through the 1st half and start of the 2nd, I thought we dominated and should have scored more than we did. Oldham look like relegation fodder.

Final note. I usually quite like WIlson. He just defends the back post properly and takes up good defensive positions, but he got skinned a couple of times quite easily and did nothing to support Ameobi. First half Ameobi quite cleverly dragged people inside with a little saunter a couple of times, leaving a huge path down the flank, but Wilson didn't look interested in getting up there. We'll always lack width when he plays
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by boltonboris » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:18 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Glad Derik got some time in holding mid as that's his best position and if we are going to play 4231 we need options.
It was very much a 4-3-3, although it was quite fluid
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:44 pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Glad Derik got some time in holding mid as that's his best position and if we are going to play 4231 we need options.
It was very much a 4-3-3, although it was quite fluid
Semantics but I would call it a 4-2-3-1.

Thorpe and Spearing played in front of the back four. Vela further forward.

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:11 pm

It looked absolutely nowt like the previous variation of that system, so still saying a 433. But again, it matters not, as the players played well in their positions. On the most part.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Hmm. I had 4-1-3-2 :?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:56 pm

Interesting! Thanks all. The starting formation is just that: a starting formation, and unless we're playing table football players should move. That said, it does give a strong indication of the "resting" shape, and they will generally default back to it, notably for opposition goal kicks and centres.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:38 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Hmm. I had 4-1-3-2 :?
Clough was on the left, Ameobi on the right. Who is in your 2 with Madine?

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:42 am

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Bruce Rioja wrote:Hmm. I had 4-1-3-2 :?
Clough was on the left, Ameobi on the right. Who is in your 2 with Madine?
Madine covered so much ground that he looked like 2 men. What do you think of that, Bruce? Eh? Eh?
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:54 am

It's good to see Howard doing well for us! Am I right in thinking that Thorpe and Ameobi are out of contract the end of the season? Providing all goes well, w should be able to pick them up on a free Or cheap compo depending on age!
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:56 am

Proper goalmouth scramble for the second goal. Shit shots, shit clearances, legs everywhere. Love it.
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Post by boltonboris » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:58 am

KeyserSoze wrote:Proper goalmouth scramble for the second goal. Shit shots, shit clearances, legs everywhere. Love it.
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Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:00 pm

boltonboris wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:Proper goalmouth scramble for the second goal. Shit shots, shit clearances, legs everywhere. Love it.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:17 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:It's good to see Howard doing well for us! Am I right in thinking that Thorpe and Ameobi are out of contract the end of the season? Providing all goes well, w should be able to pick them up on a free Or cheap compo depending on age!
I believe all our deadline-day loanees bar Keshi Anderson are out of contract in summer. As are about a dozen of our first-team squad members including Wilson, Buxton, Wheater, Dervite, Moxey, Spearing, Trotter, Davies, Clayton and Madine (list here, though it needs updating - Vela has signed until 2019).

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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:51 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Hmm. I had 4-1-3-2 :?
Clough was on the left, Ameobi on the right. Who is in your 2 with Madine?
Clough didn't look to be on the left to me.
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Re: I should have told em, Oldham. Home, 15th Oct.

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:55 pm

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Hmm. I had 4-1-3-2 :?
Clough was on the left, Ameobi on the right. Who is in your 2 with Madine?
Madine covered so much ground that he looked like 2 men. What do you think of that, Bruce? Eh? Eh?
Well, he does tend to miss as many as David Reeves and David N'Gog all rolled into one, so you may be on to something there, Boris ;)
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