Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
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Bull shit!BWFC_Insane wrote:Do you have a default answer that you just churn out without reading what people are actually saying?TANGODANCER wrote:Oh, right,welcome to third class of a world of perfect football where the only divine presence has pound note signs in front of it: Chelsea, (Da Costa can't stand English football anymore), Arsenal, (whose turn to whine this week about x grand per week not being their true value) Liverpool (they're exempt from criticism because Stevie Gerard once played for them and the whole world hates them anyway) United who have Jose Maurinho as manager so a divine right to win everything, West Ham whose star international garlic bread specialist has gone on a personal strike and thinks he's worth more than 125 grand a match.....BWFC_Insane wrote:
My point is just that you cannot blame one player. As a team we don't have enough people who will reach double figures. Or a striker who will bag 25. I mean that is the situation and why I think we struggle every so often.
Meanwhile, back in downtown Bolton, a Division One club, broke enough not to be able to guarantee staff wages, embargoed, turning half the stand lights off to save electricity, and still managing to be upbeat and third in their league, they have the audacity to lose a game......Damn it sir, that's utterly insupportable...completely intolerable...
I agree that we won't win every week. I agree that the posts from PT are a total overreaction.
My point is that our rivals for automatic promotion all seem to have more regular goals in them than we do. And that is our weakness. We have a great back four, but if our standards slip in any game ever so slightly we get punished. Whereas if you don't play well but bang a couple in, you often get the points or at least a share. Not a criticism, just an observation. There probably is little we can do about it.
Read back over a few match threads were we have conceded and the general opinion is the defence nearly always gets caught at sixes and sevens, more decent than some we have had lately? yes, great? No way!
I find it strange some of the people who used to slate SKD for not scoring enough goals heap praise on that tool Madine who frankly is not fit to lace up Kev's boots.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Tongue in cheek and irony spring to mind A.T...
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PT has shown his true character as his involvement in this alone is proof that he loves a good old moan at the team.
We lost. We're not going to win them all. Sheffield Utd lost too, 4-1 btw.
Keep wanting something to fail then eventually it will.
We lost. We're not going to win them all. Sheffield Utd lost too, 4-1 btw.
Keep wanting something to fail then eventually it will.
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TANGODANCER wrote:Tongue in cheek and irony spring to mind A.T...
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
DJBlu wrote:PT has shown his true character as his involvement in this alone is proof that he loves a good old moan at the team.
We lost. We're not going to win them all. Sheffield Utd lost too, 4-1 btw.
Keep wanting something to fail then eventually it will.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Agree 100%....DJBlu wrote:PT has shown his true character as his involvement in this alone is proof that he loves a good old moan at the team.
We lost. We're not going to win them all. Sheffield Utd lost too, 4-1 btw.
Keep wanting something to fail then eventually it will.
Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Peter Thompson wrote:Agree 100%....DJBlu wrote:PT has shown his true character as his involvement in this alone is proof that he loves a good old moan at the team.
We lost. We're not going to win them all. Sheffield Utd lost too, 4-1 btw.
Keep wanting something to fail then eventually it will.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Glad you said that as you're the only person in attendance yesterday that appears to agree with me. I thought that he was awful.BWFC_Insane wrote:Aye he was wank today. Though I thought Spearing was worse. He had a real howler. Which is out of character for him.Bruce Rioja wrote:And that's the top and bottom of it. Worst player on the field by a country mile by the way, once again, was Madine. That he was stood 16 yards out waiting for some sort of miraculous pull back when Wilson, at speed, curled a superb cross around the back of their left back, a cross which any forward worth his salt would have anticipated and busted his bollocks to have got on the end of absolutely typified this complete and utter oxygen thief.BWFC_Insane wrote:We weren't at our best, but it's not like we were terrible. Ultimately we easily could and should have won it.TANGODANCER wrote:So what exactly are you saying P.T, that we should automatically win every match or we're rubbish? All the teams in this league are there for a reason, the reason that they're generally no better, no worse than us. We're a game behind, third in the league and still in the cup and we lost one today from, as someone else said, because of a desire to win it, not a couldn't care less attitude. I find your attitude odd to say the least, but hey, I wasn't there, so mine is just an opinion.
They did trouble us on the break last 20 minutes though.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
I'm sick of folk telling me "Yeah but, Madine works hard" he does at times but gets absolutely nowhere. Our forward line seldom looks like scoring which is a big worry. So Madine works hard? but nothing ever comes from his flick ons etc.
Our inability to kill teams off could be the difference between remaining in this league and promotion. Clough has not been threatening enough and no plan B is in place.
If Anderson DOES want promotion and make the club a better proposition for a profitable sale, then he needs to get someone in who knows where the goals are else suffer the consequences.
Another game midweek isn't going to help the team but Parky is a firm believer in this comp. Too many games could be our downfall.
Our inability to kill teams off could be the difference between remaining in this league and promotion. Clough has not been threatening enough and no plan B is in place.
If Anderson DOES want promotion and make the club a better proposition for a profitable sale, then he needs to get someone in who knows where the goals are else suffer the consequences.
Another game midweek isn't going to help the team but Parky is a firm believer in this comp. Too many games could be our downfall.
Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Conceded the fewest goals in the league. Bradford not far behind (funny that) but the rest way back. Faults I'm sure he has, but our boy sure understands defending.Hoboh wrote:Bull shit!BWFC_Insane wrote:Do you have a default answer that you just churn out without reading what people are actually saying?TANGODANCER wrote:Oh, right,welcome to third class of a world of perfect football where the only divine presence has pound note signs in front of it: Chelsea, (Da Costa can't stand English football anymore), Arsenal, (whose turn to whine this week about x grand per week not being their true value) Liverpool (they're exempt from criticism because Stevie Gerard once played for them and the whole world hates them anyway) United who have Jose Maurinho as manager so a divine right to win everything, West Ham whose star international garlic bread specialist has gone on a personal strike and thinks he's worth more than 125 grand a match.....BWFC_Insane wrote:
My point is just that you cannot blame one player. As a team we don't have enough people who will reach double figures. Or a striker who will bag 25. I mean that is the situation and why I think we struggle every so often.
Meanwhile, back in downtown Bolton, a Division One club, broke enough not to be able to guarantee staff wages, embargoed, turning half the stand lights off to save electricity, and still managing to be upbeat and third in their league, they have the audacity to lose a game......Damn it sir, that's utterly insupportable...completely intolerable...
I agree that we won't win every week. I agree that the posts from PT are a total overreaction.
My point is that our rivals for automatic promotion all seem to have more regular goals in them than we do. And that is our weakness. We have a great back four, but if our standards slip in any game ever so slightly we get punished. Whereas if you don't play well but bang a couple in, you often get the points or at least a share. Not a criticism, just an observation. There probably is little we can do about it.
Read back over a few match threads were we have conceded and the general opinion is the defence nearly always gets caught at sixes and sevens, more decent than some we have had lately? yes, great? No way!
I find it strange some of the people who used to slate SKD for not scoring enough goals heap praise on that tool Madine who frankly is not fit to lace up Kev's boots.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
And that's what we needed. If the club is stable but treading water and playing defensive boring football in a year or two it's a different conversation. If we make the playoffs this season then that's an achievement. We're missing one of our best players because we were too skint to pay our debts. That's the context.
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I'm unconvinced by that. I think its because Rafa wants cover until he signs people personally.LeverEnd wrote:And that's what we needed. If the club is stable but treading water and playing defensive boring football in a year or two it's a different conversation. If we make the playoffs this season then that's an achievement. We're missing one of our best players because we were too skint to pay our debts. That's the context.
BN reporting we are still hoping to bring him back.
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Your memory serves you excellently. Marco Gabbiadini broke Coleman's leg at Derby on Sun 26 Feb, sending Rioch bananas. After being ahead for 82 minutes we lost the game - one of only two league losses in 21 games.Bruce Rioja wrote:A couple of weeks before at Derby. If memory serves (which it rarely does these days) it was a broken leg and Gabbiadini had summat to do with it.Lord Kangana wrote:I've noticed that Ziggy Seagraves is playing in that video. Was Simon Coleman already injured at this point? I thought it was much later in the season?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75155.html
Ten days later we beat Swindon and went to Wembley for a cup final. Two months later we went back to Wembley again and went up.
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That squad maybe offers us a lesson to our current position. We had four strikers of which you'd perm 2. Apart from McGinlay being the first name most of the time, the other threeall had their strengths and could be used off the bench to change games sometimes as per the Swindon game. We also had attacking quality in other areas we could bring on to turn a game round. The play off final we had a LOT of injuries. Ended up with all 4 strikers on the pitch, McGinlay on the wing. Fabian scored...and well you know the rest.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Your memory serves you excellently. Marco Gabbiadini broke Coleman's leg at Derby on Sun 26 Feb, sending Rioch bananas. After being ahead for 82 minutes we lost the game - one of only two league losses in 21 games.Bruce Rioja wrote:A couple of weeks before at Derby. If memory serves (which it rarely does these days) it was a broken leg and Gabbiadini had summat to do with it.Lord Kangana wrote:I've noticed that Ziggy Seagraves is playing in that video. Was Simon Coleman already injured at this point? I thought it was much later in the season?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75155.html
Ten days later we beat Swindon and went to Wembley for a cup final. Two months later we went back to Wembley again and went up.
But the point was we had options, especially up front. Options that gave us different dimensions. And could change games.
Arguably that is the big thing missing now. If Madine, Clough and Henry don't work, we have nowt to bring on. Nothing better or different certainly.
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That were it! Yes, it all comes back to me now - cheersDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Your memory serves you excellently. Marco Gabbiadini broke Coleman's leg at Derby on Sun 26 Feb, sending Rioch bananas. After being ahead for 82 minutes we lost the game - one of only two league losses in 21 games.Bruce Rioja wrote:A couple of weeks before at Derby. If memory serves (which it rarely does these days) it was a broken leg and Gabbiadini had summat to do with it.Lord Kangana wrote:I've noticed that Ziggy Seagraves is playing in that video. Was Simon Coleman already injured at this point? I thought it was much later in the season?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75155.html
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
I've always hated Gabbiadini since. The big-nosed git.
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Coleman was never the same again but what's often forgotten is Thompson injured one of theirs that day (Forsyth?) who never kicked a ball again. Gabbiadini's was pure intent though imoDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Your memory serves you excellently. Marco Gabbiadini broke Coleman's leg at Derby on Sun 26 Feb, sending Rioch bananas. After being ahead for 82 minutes we lost the game - one of only two league losses in 21 games.
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Genuinely sorry to hear that.Harry Genshaw wrote:Coleman was never the same again but what's often forgotten is Thompson injured one of theirs that day (Forsyth?) who never kicked a ball again. Gabbiadini's was pure intent though imoDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Your memory serves you excellently. Marco Gabbiadini broke Coleman's leg at Derby on Sun 26 Feb, sending Rioch bananas. After being ahead for 82 minutes we lost the game - one of only two league losses in 21 games.
Gabbiadini's still a big-nosed git.
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I also recall that he had legs like oil rig supports. I'm sure I read somewhere that he now has a B&B in York (or some such).Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I've always hated Gabbiadini since. The big-nosed git.
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Re: Mark Came up top: Swindon (H) Sat 14 Jan 3pm
Lets all slag it off on TripAdvisor.Bruce Rioja wrote:I also recall that he had legs like oil rig supports. I'm sure I read somewhere that he now has a B&B in York (or some such).Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I've always hated Gabbiadini since. The big-nosed git.
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