Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
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We didn't have the players to play a short passing game. We still don't. But that isn't the point. The spine of the team was stronger potentially than what we'll go down with under contract this time round.Harry Genshaw wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:27 pmHang on! You were telling us all last season that the side was incapable of playing football and we couldn't out pass Chesterfield!BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:57 amLast time we went down with Spearing, Madine, Mark Davies, re-signed Wheater, Pratley....that's a decent enough league one spine right there.
Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
Rubbish! Mark Davies played about 3 games. The rest of them were all equally part of the spine of a team that went down with about 7 points. Far worse than this lot. They were the spine of a decent league one side because the gulf is huge (see ourselves, Wigan and Blackburn yo-yoing).
Spearing is hardly ripping up trees down there. Darren isn't getting a better offer (and hopefully not one at all from us).
Wheater we have an option on, Beevers won't get many better offers, Taylor will still be here, as will Little. That's a back four better than the one we came up with. Think we'll keep Alnwick but even if not, one-eyed Ben is part of a team that is 4th.
Finally, finally Darren will be gone, as will fecking Derik. Noone and Buckley will be decent down there. As will Morais. We need a striker and a couple of midfielders. Much less than we did last time, when we needed a whole team, three times.
Spearing is hardly ripping up trees down there. Darren isn't getting a better offer (and hopefully not one at all from us).
Wheater we have an option on, Beevers won't get many better offers, Taylor will still be here, as will Little. That's a back four better than the one we came up with. Think we'll keep Alnwick but even if not, one-eyed Ben is part of a team that is 4th.
Finally, finally Darren will be gone, as will fecking Derik. Noone and Buckley will be decent down there. As will Morais. We need a striker and a couple of midfielders. Much less than we did last time, when we needed a whole team, three times.
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Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
Genuine LOL at that, cheers Pru (and for the optimism about next season).
Decent journeymen plus perhaps promoted youngsters - might just be fun next season. Might not, of course, but if that risk put us off we'd have given up years ago.
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I totally agree, we will have a decent side next season in League 1 - with the addition of a couple of decent younger box to box midfielders & a pacy striker - Little, ALF, Noone & Buckley will still be here, Morais is probably the only player who has half a chance of being offered a new contract, and possibly Wheater but Wheater would need a quick CB at the side of him not Beevers, we could also even get Robinson back on loan next seasonPrufrock wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:45 pmRubbish! Mark Davies played about 3 games. The rest of them were all equally part of the spine of a team that went down with about 7 points. Far worse than this lot. They were the spine of a decent league one side because the gulf is huge (see ourselves, Wigan and Blackburn yo-yoing).
Spearing is hardly ripping up trees down there. Darren isn't getting a better offer (and hopefully not one at all from us).
Wheater we have an option on, Beevers won't get many better offers, Taylor will still be here, as will Little. That's a back four better than the one we came up with. Think we'll keep Alnwick but even if not, one-eyed Ben is part of a team that is 4th.
Finally, finally Darren will be gone, as will fecking Derik. Noone and Buckley will be decent down there. As will Morais. We need a striker and a couple of midfielders. Much less than we did last time, when we needed a whole team, three times.
We should not be renewing the contracts of Pratley, Derik, Henry, Dervite, Wilbraham, C Taylor, Karacan etc....I'm not sure about Beevers (he's been awful this season) it wouldn't bother me if he went, and I'm not to fussed about Mr 1 decent game in 8 Ameobi
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Would you go so far as to say, like last time, that any manager would get us promoted except Peter Reid, who'd get us relegated?Peter Thompson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:55 pmI totally agree, we will have a decent side next season in League 1
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Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
As a defensive partnership Wheavers are fine, if not exactly fast across the grass. What they shouldn't be is the side's creative hub. If they can win it and give it to someone who can pass, we'll have a lot of possession in the third tier.throwawayboltonian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:49 pmThey've not been fantastic together this season granted, but I'd say that Wheater/Beevers have proven last term that they can form a fantastic defensive (and offensive) partnership at league 1 level. None of us wanted Beevers gone last summer when Millwall came a-knockin.
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Re contracts and who'll be with us next season... Don't forget we'll also have Harry Charlsey, whose Lucan-esque disappearance was so instant and profound that both us and Everton will completely forget he's actually due back at Goodison in June.
By the time the kit man finds him in an old box full of Spin&Win shirts, we may as well hold on to him and see how he does against Fleetwood in the opening game.
By the time the kit man finds him in an old box full of Spin&Win shirts, we may as well hold on to him and see how he does against Fleetwood in the opening game.
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SKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
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I'd go for that Bruce. A battler and loved Bolton and for him, defence is opposition not a game plan. . Now't to lose.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
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I'd welcome him back.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:34 pmI'd go for that Bruce. A battler and loved Bolton and for him, defence is opposition not a game plan. . Now't to lose.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
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Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
Come the final whistle on Sunday and that will be it for Parky. Whether we remain or drop he's going.
I'm sure there will be no shortage of applicants for the position and Ken won't select a complete novice as Gartside did.
I'm sure there will be no shortage of applicants for the position and Ken won't select a complete novice as Gartside did.
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Living in Southport, as I do, I can assure fellow bwfc ers that SKD has not exactly covered himself in managerial glory. Many sandgrounders are amazed he has lasted so long.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
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Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
He's just been sacked. By Southport. Of the Vanarama National League North.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:45 pmI'd welcome him back.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:34 pmI'd go for that Bruce. A battler and loved Bolton and for him, defence is opposition not a game plan. . Now't to lose.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
If he's to be welcomed back then it is more likely to be as our new centre forward than manager.
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Surprised to hear that. I read that feature on him on the beeb a few weeks back and he'd just gone several games unbeaten after a bad start.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:42 pmLiving in Southport, as I do, I can assure fellow bwfc ers that SKD has not exactly covered himself in managerial glory. Many sandgrounders are amazed he has lasted so long.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
Id still be happy to see him given a crack
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Re: Should Phil Parkinson be sacked?
He has been the PP of the coast ! Lost a load at the start then a run of victories took off the pressure then another series of losses, just enough to avoid relegation. Let's hope that's an omen for us,Harry Genshaw wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:54 pmSurprised to hear that. I read that feature on him on the beeb a few weeks back and he'd just gone several games unbeaten after a bad start.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:42 pmLiving in Southport, as I do, I can assure fellow bwfc ers that SKD has not exactly covered himself in managerial glory. Many sandgrounders are amazed he has lasted so long.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pmSKD's just been sacked by Southport. He's another who wouldn't do any worse.
Id still be happy to see him given a crack
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With a shit team we would be mid table if Madine wasn't sold. Parky has pissed me off recently but dispassionately i don't think anyone can blame him for our situation. Some bad decisions, unbelievable hoof it to a midget tactics, etc., but I think if we were down by January we would have just blamed the lack of funds which is the main reason in what has done us. Selling madine and blaming parky is like pushing a cyclist of his bike and saying he's shit for not winning the race.
I think parky only knows how to play a certain style, he's got one trick, he's good at it, and it works but without a target man he's completely lost he has no idea what to do about it. He should have made sure we had a backup, given the importance of the roll, but he didn't, so we're fecked.
So I vote keep, unless the unlikely scenario we're promoting the u23s in which case we need someone completely different.
I think parky only knows how to play a certain style, he's got one trick, he's good at it, and it works but without a target man he's completely lost he has no idea what to do about it. He should have made sure we had a backup, given the importance of the roll, but he didn't, so we're fecked.
So I vote keep, unless the unlikely scenario we're promoting the u23s in which case we need someone completely different.
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Again, not Parky's fault. Ken decided to sell Madine at the last minute when replacements were sought, but unlikely to realistically be added.Spartan2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:32 pmWith a shit team we would be mid table if Madine wasn't sold. Parky has pissed me off recently but dispassionately i don't think anyone can blame him for our situation. Some bad decisions, unbelievable hoof it to a midget tactics, etc., but I think if we were down by January we would have just blamed the lack of funds which is the main reason in what has done us. Selling madine and blaming parky is like pushing a cyclist of his bike and saying he's shit for not winning the race.
I think parky only knows how to play a certain style, he's got one trick, he's good at it, and it works but without a target man he's completely lost he has no idea what to do about it. He should have made sure we had a backup, given the importance of the roll, but he didn't, so we're fecked.
So I vote keep, unless the unlikely scenario we're promoting the u23s in which case we need someone completely different.
Ken's attempt to run the club with zero investment and asset stripping our better players has backfired. He'll try and blame someone, anyone, but himself. But you can't run a football club on thin air. Millwall, oft cited, have an owner who in recent years has invested £62M. On the other hand, we, have sold £11M worth of players since Ken arrived, and not spent a single penny on transfer fees. Alongside that Ken has to our knowledge invest 1 single pound in the club on a permanent basis. And taken a £265K salary for this year.
I'm not having that you can expect to see any progress with that sort of financial outlook in a league where on one player Wolves have spent more than we have in 8 or 9 seasons total.
Next season in league one we have to build a team (with a manager) capable of winning promotion and staying up. No chance that will happen under Ken.
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