Jumping through hoops to whack the boys from the bush? - Bolton v QPR 21/10/217

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Re: Jumping through hoops to whack the boys from the bush? - Bolton v QPR 21/10/217

Post by DJBlu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:43 pm

Vela off for ALF. Let's take the engine out and put on a spoiler.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:44 pm

Throw us, then Alf on and Vela off. Can Alf save the day? Taylor, Madine.....another throw us....Taylor and....long and....they clkear but we come back and..and....they clear for a throw. ....Rangers make a last sub and,,,,,,Silla leaves. Henry tries, they clear, Fremman goes and....they sally.Wheats clears, ref ignores our appeal for a free kick and....it will take a real slice of fortune to get the lead back. Gaz goes offside and....they get the kick.
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Post by jetsetwilly » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:44 pm

That's why we need a new manager. Sit back like that and you will concede. Was coming for 15 mins. Parky not up to the tactics in this division

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Prats wins a free kick and....mic man rambles on then.....Ben and......mic man rambles some more, they they sally and....Madine actually get a free awarded at last. And....is this it? ......Taylor and.....Prats wins another free central-ish....twenty five out. And....as time goes by.....Noone, hits the wall and the waterpolo rules apply. Whets gets it back, Ben clears....they come again and.....Ben gets it as 3 mins announced....Gaz, Little and a throw near the box. Three mins and......and......a cross and....keeper catches and clears. Alf does well, Prats goes and.....we get a last minute corner....Morais and.....and....it's a goal kick. Too little too late from the sound of it, but the weather must have had real effect. And....Ben wallops, they clear for a throw......us....and that's it. 1-1....Full time.
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Re: Jumping through hoops to whack the boys from the bush? - Bolton v QPR 21/10/217

Post by DJBlu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:55 pm

Why can't PP just hold on to a side and see if they can score another before trying to hold on.

2 points lost due to inept subs. It was working you Muppet. Morais for Ameobi yer ok. Noone for Armstrong = fecking idiocy.

Game had gone after this change IMO.

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Post by jetsetwilly » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:56 pm

Had gone before that when he put the entire team bar Nadine in defence. Was never going to work

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Post by enrdentw » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:59 pm

Said at HT we couldn't sit back. The equalizer was on the cards for about 15minutes and very much deserved.

Vela missed our only chance in the second half. It really was a big chance to score.

Alnwick made a good save low down to his left before they equalized.

Really poor second half from Bolton. If we only create one chance against our relegation rivals at home then we will not stay up.

No excuses for Parky today. Look forward to listening to those who try and defend him after that.

Shout out for their no.11 - good player. Oh, and it was wet, very wet.
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Post by enrdentw » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Also thought it was a poor decision to take off Armstrong for Noone. Armstrongs was playing well - Noone needs to keep it simple. Gave it away cheaply.

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Post by Jim_McDonuts » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:11 pm

Listen - is that the sound of our momentum disappearing over winter hill I can hear?

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:09 pm

It's always going to be hard. We've come up a divison to play against all but three teams who have been here a season, and three who dropped out of the Premier League. With our problems and cash restraints I'm not sure what anybody is excpecting but a long hard fight for survival till we can rebuild. Sure, Parky may make choices some fans don't agree with; what manager doesn't, but we really need to keep battling and unify the squad, not tear it apart by howling "sack the manager" . Some grips need getting..
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:12 pm

enrdentw wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:59 pm
Said at HT we couldn't sit back. The equalizer was on the cards for about 15minutes and very much deserved.

Vela missed our only chance in the second half. It really was a big chance to score.

Alnwick made a good save low down to his left before they equalized.

Really poor second half from Bolton. If we only create one chance against our relegation rivals at home then we will not stay up.

No excuses for Parky today. Look forward to listening to those who try and defend him after that.

Shout out for their no.11 - good player. Oh, and it was wet, very wet.
Armstrong was awful. Gave the ball away countless times.

We were ok first half without being great. Second half at least half our team ran out of legs on a heavy pitch.

There is no way we wanted to sit that deep, we did because we struggled for outlets and as Henry and Pratley tired we lost all control.

Ameobi was knackered and had to come off. Armstrong was poor. Neither sub is anything to complain about.

We failed to win today because they had more energy on a difficult pitch and our better players in Ameobi and Vela were anonymous.

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Post by enrdentw » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:24 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:12 pm
enrdentw wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:59 pm
Said at HT we couldn't sit back. The equalizer was on the cards for about 15minutes and very much deserved.

Vela missed our only chance in the second half. It really was a big chance to score.

Alnwick made a good save low down to his left before they equalized.

Really poor second half from Bolton. If we only create one chance against our relegation rivals at home then we will not stay up.

No excuses for Parky today. Look forward to listening to those who try and defend him after that.

Shout out for their no.11 - good player. Oh, and it was wet, very wet.
Armstrong was awful. Gave the ball away countless times.

We were ok first half without being great. Second half at least half our team ran out of legs on a heavy pitch.

There is no way we wanted to sit that deep, we did because we struggled for outlets and as Henry and Pratley tired we lost all control.

Ameobi was knackered and had to come off. Armstrong was poor. Neither sub is anything to complain about.

We failed to win today because they had more energy on a difficult pitch and our better players in Ameobi and Vela were anonymous.
Noone gave the ball away as well. We needed an outlet, as you say, yet we take off our quickest player...

It was the same pitch for both teams. The fact they were more mobile and fitter is down to the management.

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:30 pm

We’ve already passed on a lot of opportunities to take points off teams we want to finish around/above if we have intentions of staying in the division. Todays just another. Subs were reasonable on paper. I am dissapointed at how many forward players we have signed that dont seem to influence games though. Noone, Buckley, Morais is struggling at this level, Armstrongs too raw.

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Post by nelson66 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:34 pm

Unbelievable that people can complain about Vela and Ameobi being subbed on a heavy pitch when neither of them are fully match fit after being out for a long spell with injury
Seriously ?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:46 pm

enrdentw wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:24 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:12 pm
enrdentw wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:59 pm
Said at HT we couldn't sit back. The equalizer was on the cards for about 15minutes and very much deserved.

Vela missed our only chance in the second half. It really was a big chance to score.

Alnwick made a good save low down to his left before they equalized.

Really poor second half from Bolton. If we only create one chance against our relegation rivals at home then we will not stay up.

No excuses for Parky today. Look forward to listening to those who try and defend him after that.

Shout out for their no.11 - good player. Oh, and it was wet, very wet.
Armstrong was awful. Gave the ball away countless times.

We were ok first half without being great. Second half at least half our team ran out of legs on a heavy pitch.

There is no way we wanted to sit that deep, we did because we struggled for outlets and as Henry and Pratley tired we lost all control.

Ameobi was knackered and had to come off. Armstrong was poor. Neither sub is anything to complain about.

We failed to win today because they had more energy on a difficult pitch and our better players in Ameobi and Vela were anonymous.
Noone gave the ball away as well. We needed an outlet, as you say, yet we take off our quickest player...

It was the same pitch for both teams. The fact they were more mobile and fitter is down to the management.
Oh come on. We had the best of the first half they the second.

They weren't carrying several players who clearly aren't fully match fit yet.

Obsessing over the manager is nonsense. Armstrong was an outlet, except he gave the ball away every time. I agree Noone was poor but had to tackle the chance.

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Re: Jumping through hoops to whack the boys from the bush? - Bolton v QPR 21/10/217

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:51 pm

No complaints re the subs. They felt right at the time, just that unlike last week they didn't add anything. Noone was excellent when he came on against Wednesday but was poor today.

Draw was a fair result. We'll just have to nick something at Fulham now. That is the wettest match and walk home I've ever had
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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:15 pm

Would prefer to win today / lose at fulham as opposed to nicking a point in both. If we want to gove ourselves a fighting chance we need some wins before christmas. We have to find 3 teams to finish above not just catch sunderland.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:47 pm

nelson66 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:34 pm
Unbelievable that people can complain about Vela and Ameobi being subbed on a heavy pitch when neither of them are fully match fit after being out for a long spell with injury
Seriously ?
Indeed. Henry isn't full fit either and as his levels dropped you saw us struggle more. Thought he took Vela off a bit late. That lad was knackered second half.

End of the day a point isn't a bad result other than the context of where we are. Can't see us having the strength in depth to stay up if Noone and Morais perform like they did today. But that's the reality of where we are.

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Re: Jumping through hoops to whack the boys from the bush? - Bolton v QPR 21/10/217

Post by twilight » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:53 pm

1st Half we were quite solid, thought we deserved to go in 1 nil up. QPR had the better 2nd half and coped better with the weather...Ameobi cut out of challenges and Vela & Henry tired visibly, but the weather conditions definitely didnt help and the pitch was heavy...all in all a draw was a fair result, but one criticism, we sat back too much.

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Post by WTW » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:34 am

It's years since I've seen a game played in such terrible weather conditions. The last half hour was all but impossible as water just remained on the surface. I'm not judging anyone on today. I just know I was glad to get home, with clothes so soaked I had to do a complete change.

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